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[Ascenion]

Got my first stuck Pixel on the C6 last night. The fucker is bright green. I'm hoping it'll go away eventually. I was on PSN when I saw it playing P5. My friends said I flipped all of my shit. I'm not sure what to do. I know this isn't service worthy but I just don't know. It's still there this morning too, it bugs me so much.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

Come on, don't do this to me. I just ordered one for Planet Earth 2. I guess I can at least play Sunset Overdrive now...

It works, but that's as far as I can go. The HDR gets mixed up with the dashboard which isn't.

So you start a film, the TV shows it's receiving an HDR signal, but the Xbox shows a undersaturated dim picture, so you end up not knowing what's right and wrong, and then throw error codes in the mix, and it's a total fuck up basically.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

thats his opinion, for every one that says the one s is a bad uhd player, there are 9 who vouch for it. me included. i have NO issue whatsoever with it. I own over 20+ uhd hdr discs, from older movies to the newest planet earth II. never ran into any problems.

you will love it. also you can game on it. i paid 199 quid and got gears of war series, thats 4 games and forza horizon 3 which looks effing amazing!

Trouble is I personally know 2 others with an S with the exact same issues, so something is clearly amiss, and it's not an opinion, my issues are a fact, and it isn't my TV.

 

[Wiped89]

Got my first stuck Pixel on the C6 last night. The fucker is bright green. I'm hoping it'll go away eventually. I was on PSN when I saw it playing P5. My friends said I flipped all of my shit. I'm not sure what to do. I know this isn't service worthy but I just don't know. It's still there this morning too, it bugs me so much.

Have you tried running the 'clear panel noise' program in the menus? I think it's under General -> Oled settings or something.

I'm not saying it will work, but some people have cleared light image retention/burn using it. Word of warning, a few have said it's made it worse when they've run it, so approach with caution, although their sets may have been faulty anyway. I know it's designed to help ease screen issues, so it may be worth a try, though I've never run it personally.

 

[Ascenion]

Have you tried running the 'clear panel noise' program in the menus? I think it's under General -> Oled settings or something.

I'm not saying it will work, but some people have cleared light image retention/burn using it. Word of warning, a few have said it's made it worse when they've run it, so approach with caution, although their sets may have been faulty anyway. I know it's designed to help ease screen issues, so it may be worth a try, though I've never run it personally.

I tried that last night. Oddly enough when it did that the stuck pixel was still lit up through the cleaning even though it's supposed to be "off" I didn't let it finish though.

Edit: Gotta go pick up my friend so I'm gonna let it finish this time while I'm gone.

 

[Kyoufu]

Try some youtube videos that attempt to fix stuck pixels.

 

[Yawnny]

All anyone needs to do is watch Planet Earth II UHD with HDR and I swear they would shut the fuck up forever about UHD blu-ray being niche or not needed in the so-called era of streaming. Takes a steaming hot pile of shit on anything I have seen HDR related aside from other UHD blu-rays. Netflix and Amazon HDR content looks downright embarassing by comparison.

Now imagine if Disney had given us Rogue One 4K with HDR... all the people in that PS4 Pro thread about whether Sony made a good decision not including support if they could see how Planet Earth II looks would literally be emailing Kaz Hirai calling him a fool and begging for it soon.

Preach!!!

 

[dragos495]

Trouble is I personally know 2 others with an S with the exact same issues, so something is clearly amiss, and it's not an opinion, my issues are a fact, and it isn't my TV.

yes, the problems are on their end. i doubt i have the only xbox one s that works without problems, would you agree?

all i said is that its not bad as a uhd player and at a certain time it was the cheapest uhd player by a lot. half the price of a dedicated one. maybe now thats not the case anymore.
it still offers more than a stand alone player.

the chances of the guy buying the one s to watch uhd hdr movies and the thing to actually work as intended are far superior than it having issues of any kind.

 

[Spartancarver]

Got my first stuck Pixel on the C6 last night. The fucker is bright green. I'm hoping it'll go away eventually. I was on PSN when I saw it playing P5. My friends said I flipped all of my shit. I'm not sure what to do. I know this isn't service worthy but I just don't know. It's still there this morning too, it bugs me so much.

I tried that last night. Oddly enough when it did that the stuck pixel was still lit up through the cleaning even though it's supposed to be "off" I didn't let it finish though.

Edit: Gotta go pick up my friend so I'm gonna let it finish this time while I'm gone.

Had almost this exact issue with my B6. Had a bunch of what looked like stuck pixels. Ran the screen clear thing. Initially made it worse, which was panic-inducing, but then after 3 runs of the screen clear it was completely resolved except for a single bright pink stuck pixel. That bright pink one went away on its own the next day without any intervention on my part.

It was really weird.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

yes, the problems are on their end. i doubt i have the only xbox one s that works without problems, would you agree?

all i said is that its not bad as a uhd player and at a certain time it was the cheapest uhd player by a lot. half the price of a dedicated one. maybe now thats not the case anymore.
it still offers more than a stand alone player.

the chances of the guy buying the one s to watch uhd hdr movies and the thing to actually work as intended are far superior than it having issues of any kind.

Not if he has the issues myself and others are having, it completely destroys the enjoyment of the films, trust me.

 

[Ascenion]

Had almost this exact issue with my B6. Had a bunch of what looked like stuck pixels. Ran the screen clear thing. Initially made it worse, which was panic-inducing, but then after 3 runs of the screen clear it was completely resolved except for a single bright pink stuck pixel. That bright pink one went away on its own the next day without any intervention on my part.

It was really weird.

The bright green pixel is still there for me. I've only run the screen clear thing once all the way through. I had it do pixel fix vid on YouTube for about an hour still stuck there. I'm not sure what to do now. It irks me to death.

 

[Spartancarver]

The bright green pixel is still there for me. I've only run the screen clear thing once all the way through. I had it do pixel fix vid on YouTube for about an hour still stuck there. I'm not sure what to do now. It irks me to death.

This is what I was dealing with, took 3 comp cycles to clear.

 

[Ascenion]

This is what I was dealing with, took 3 comp cycles to clear.

Oof. Yeah mine isn't anywhere near that. It's just literally one tiny super green dot. I'm just uneasy to do that 3 times.

 

[Kyoufu]

Oof. Yeah mine isn't anywhere near that. It's just literally one tiny super green dot. I'm just uneasy to do that 3 times.

? Why? It doesn't damage your panel.

 

[/XX/]

? Why? It doesn't damage your panel.

Some people have been freaking out about the implication that the process could indeed affect the lifespan of the panel, after this blurb of text on the 'Reference Guide' for Sony's OLED TV made them reconsider it:

Perform Panel refresh only when image retention is particularly noticeable. As a reference, perform it only once a year. Avoid performing it more than once a year because it may affect the usable life of the panel.

https://docs.sony.com/release//Ref_4693661111.pdf

How much of this is overzealous prudence to avoid user mishandling and sometimes the consequent shift of the blame, or how much it varies from what other vendors implement on similar panels... that's still a mystery!

 

[Spartancarver]

Some people have been freaking out about the implication that the process could indeed affect the lifespan of the panel, after this blurb of text on the 'Reference Guide' for Sony's OLED TV made them reconsider it:


https://docs.sony.com/release//Ref_4693661111.pdf

How much of this is overzealous prudence to avoid user mishandling and sometimes the consequent shift of the blame, or how much it varies from what other vendors implement on similar panels... that's still a mystery!

I believe there's a user on here that runs the comp cycle once a week. I dunno if it actually does do anything to the lifespan of the panel but I also haven't had the need to run it again since the initial episode so who knows.

 

[Madness]

Had no idea any of this happened, I plan on getting a Scorpio though so hopefully that fixes all this

You base your opinions on one person who is obsessed with black crush, was even in the Scorpio threads talking about black crush when it was completelt different weather and called out for it. There can be some black crush issues, that is just what MS went for. But it is hyperbole. Same as the guy below. My cousins husband has the Oppo player and the same KS8000 i have. Both are calivrayed the same and yet I can barely discern any difference between me watching on my Xbox One S and him and on his Oppo, especially whem he borrowed my Mad Max UHD and I set it up

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233502473&postcount=4643

It's absolute shite, and forced me to buy an UB700, it's hit and miss as to whether it actually displays the picture as intended, and I wasn't prepared to keep guessing if that's how it's supposed to look anymore.

Honestly, I feel you do a disservice to anyone with these comments. It isn't utter shite and at the price point, I would still buy it it in a heartbeat over the Phillips and Samsung 2016 models, especially as Atmos bitstream comes soon and with Scorpio we will see more updates as well. I follow Avsforum (used to post a lot during the blu-ray and HD-DVD wara, and even then there isn't as much vitriol and false hyperbole over the Xbox One S player capabilities than there is here.

Almost no point in even discussing it anymore. You guys have your minds made up.

 

[simtmb]

I believe there's a user on here that runs the comp cycle once a week. I dunno if it actually does do anything to the lifespan of the panel but I also haven't had the need to run it again since the initial episode so who knows.

There's a number on avsforum.com that do the same thing as well, and have reported all fine.

I've run mine twice, first was to clear up some vignetting issues, and it worked wonders, then after a few weeks I noticed an area in the very top left of the panel, that was brighter than the rest, I'd say banding of sort, but it's a curved section, very weird...I'll have to take a pic.

It didn't remove it though and it still remains, thankfully it's at the top left corner, but I'm still contemplating on whether to complain about it. My experience so far with these OLEDs has been filled with nothing but issues, so it's been a case of which issue is worse.

 

[dragos495]

I believe there's a user on here that runs the comp cycle once a week. I dunno if it actually does do anything to the lifespan of the panel but I also haven't had the need to run it again since the initial episode so who knows.

i use to do it every night, for the first few weeks after the purchase. was paranoid about IR, as i use the c6 as a pc monitor. it didnt had any but i still activated the cycle every night, after about 10h on every day. i doubt i ruined it in any way.

Honestly, I feel you do a disservice to anyone with these comments. It isn't utter shite and at the price point, I would still buy it it in a heartbeat over the Phillips and Samsung 2016 models, especially as Atmos bitstream comes soon and with Scorpio we will see more updates as well. I follow Avsforum (used to post a lot during the blu-ray and HD-DVD wara, and even then there isn't as much vitriol and false hyperbole over the Xbox One S player capabilities than there is here.

Almost no point in even discussing it anymore. You guys have your minds made up.

thats what ive been trying to say. the guy already feels bad about his purchase, but theres no need for that.

 

[Lima]

You base your opinions on one person who is obsessed with black crush, was even in the Scorpio threads talking about black crush when it was completelt different weather and called out for it. There can be some black crush issues, that is just what MS went for. But it is hyperbole. Same as the guy below. My cousins husband has the Oppo player and the same KS8000 i have. Both are calivrayed the same and yet I can barely discern any difference between me watching on my Xbox One S and him and on his Oppo, especially whem he borrowed my Mad Max UHD and I set it up

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233502473&postcount=4643

Honestly, I feel you do a disservice to anyone with these comments. It isn't utter shite and at the price point, I would still buy it it in a heartbeat over the Phillips and Samsung 2016 models, especially as Atmos bitstream comes soon and with Scorpio we will see more updates as well. I follow Avsforum (used to post a lot during the blu-ray and HD-DVD wara, and even then there isn't as much vitriol and false hyperbole over the Xbox One S player capabilities than there is here.

Almost no point in even discussing it anymore. You guys have your minds made up.

Lmao that was a joke homie. You can bet your ass Scorpio is gonna have the same thing though.

The regular and S have a crushed output, limited or full rgb. Doesn't matter. Anyone who wants to talk that down is denying the truth. If you are not bothered by that fine.

 

[vpance]

Lmao that was a joke homie. You can bet your ass Scorpio is gonna have the same thing though.

The regular and S have a crushed output, limited or full rgb. Doesn't matter. Anyone who wants to talk that down is denying the truth. If you are not bothered by that fine.

Jeezus why TF are they still black crushing? And even in playing BDs. That's an automatic no buy for life.

 

[Ascenion]

Did the clear panel noise thing 3 times. Used the YouTube videos to flash it. It's still there....fml.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

thats his opinion, for every one that says the one s is a bad uhd player, there are 9 who vouch for it. me included. i have NO issue whatsoever with it. I own over 20+ uhd hdr discs, from older movies to the newest planet earth II. never ran into any problems.

you will love it. also you can game on it. i paid 199 quid and got gears of war series, thats 4 games and forza horizon 3 which looks effing amazing!

It's a scientific fact the Xbox one S is garbage as fuck as a UHD player. You and the other 9 people just don't know any better because you haven't used a real UHD player yet.

 

[Z_Y]

It's a scientific fact the Xbox one S is garbage as fuck as a UHD player. You and the other 9 people just don't know any better because you haven't used a real UHD player yet.

I remember being a teenager.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

I remember being a teenager.

Did I insult your favorite plastic box ? Awwwww I'm sorry.

 

[Z_Y]

Did I insult your favorite plastic box ? Awwwww I'm sorry.

No. But when I read posts like yours I can't help but cringe.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

No. But when I read posts like yours I can't help but cringe.

yea you're a little upset I said the UHD player is shit, it's gonna be okay though. Now if you wanna discuss the UHD player let's do so but if all you wanna do is talk shit feel free to PM me

 

[Jedi2016]

I have an issue that I'm not sure is actually an issue, and it's vague enough that Googling hasn't led anywhere.

My LG TV is, on certain colors (shades of yellow/orange or light blue are easiest to see) is displaying alternate colors on every other horizontal line. It's like the TV can't display the exact color that it's being told to, so it's displaying slightly different shades of blue/yellow on each line.. light, dark, light, dark, and so on. It's a very subtle effect, as the two shades are very similar, but it's noticeable. When I see it in a game or movie, it gives the appearance like an old interlaced signal or something, but only on certain colors.

I tried taking a picture of it, but it looked perfectly normal in the photo, even though I can see it clearly with my eyes.

I first noticed it a few months ago, but I just moved into a new house, and the TV is a little closer to my viewing position, which is making it a lot more noticeable.

I've been through the TV's settings and can't find anything that would affect this. Everything is running at full RGB range.

The only thing that comes to mind is that it's an FPR passive 3D display, so every horizontal line has alternating polarization to view 3D images. But my eyeballs aren't polarized (I don't wear contacts or glasses), and it seems odd that a change in one of the FPR layers would affect the entire display and not just one section or one line.

The problem is that the TV is still perfectly serviceable otherwise, and I'm usually loathe to replace something that's not broken. And, if I were to go ahead and upgrade to 4K or whatever, I would need a new receiver. And, I just bought a house, so it's not a good idea to go spending a lot of money right now.

Any thoughts?

 

[Spartancarver]

Did the clear panel noise thing 3 times. Used the YouTube videos to flash it. It's still there....fml.

I had a persistent pink pixel that took another 24 hours or so to fix itself after I ran all the comp cycles. Same thing might happen with you.

Otherwise I would call LG support and see if you can get the panel repaired / replaced. Even if it's only a technically a single pixel, if it's bright enough to bother you on something as expensive as an OLED panel it needs to be addressed.

 

[wege12]

Is it true that the B6 OLED can accept and display a 75 Hz 1080p signal?

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

Honestly, I feel you do a disservice to anyone with these comments. It isn't utter shite and at the price point, I would still buy it it in a heartbeat over the Phillips and Samsung 2016 models, especially as Atmos bitstream comes soon and with Scorpio we will see more updates as well. I follow Avsforum (used to post a lot during the blu-ray and HD-DVD wara, and even then there isn't as much vitriol and false hyperbole over the Xbox One S player capabilities than there is here.

Almost no point in even discussing it anymore. You guys have your minds made up.

thats what ive been trying to say. the guy already feels bad about his purchase, but theres no need for that.

On the contrary, I'm actually doing people a service, and warning against buying the S as an UHD player! What am I supposed to say when films keep refusing to play and display the picture correctly, when I spend 10 minutes each time stopping and resetting the Xbox to make sure it's outputting correctly? The enjoyment I should be getting is stopped dead in it's tracks, and we are not talking minor picture issues here.

You guys don't wanna hear it and that's fine, but blame Microsoft, not me.

And for the record, the Panny UB700 has been floorless, and for anyone who has a decent blu ray collection seriously needs to consider this player, as the upscaling is something else.

 

[Kyoufu]

Some people have been freaking out about the implication that the process could indeed affect the lifespan of the panel, after this blurb of text on the 'Reference Guide' for Sony's OLED TV made them reconsider it:


https://docs.sony.com/release//Ref_4693661111.pdf

How much of this is overzealous prudence to avoid user mishandling and sometimes the consequent shift of the blame, or how much it varies from what other vendors implement on similar panels... that's still a mystery!

Strange. The panel goes through a lighter version every time you turn the TV off so I didn't think it would affect the life span in any way. I have my doubts!

 

[dragos495]

On the contrary, I'm actually doing people a service, and warning against buying the S as an UHD player! What am I supposed to say when films keep refusing to play and display the picture correctly, when I spend 10 minutes each time stopping and resetting the Xbox to make sure it's outputting correctly? The enjoyment I should be getting is stopped dead in it's tracks, and we are not talking minor picture issues here.

You guys don't wanna hear it and that's fine, but blame Microsoft, not me.

And for the record, the Panny UB700 has been floorless, and for anyone who has a decent blu ray collection seriously needs to consider this player, as the upscaling is something else.

i know that its gonna souns a bit crazy and out there, but, what if, you got a FAULTY XBOX ONE S??? just replace it. Im pretty sure i have more uhd hdr films than you, and even my blu ray collection is bigger (i went crazy after buying the oled) and i had NO, zero, issues whatsoever. be it older, blu ray, 3d, 4k non hdr, 4k hdr. the only reason im gonna change the one s is when they release discs with dolby vision.

maybe its the user whos causing the problems and not the machine? just askin'

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

i know that its gonna souns a bit crazy and out there, but, what if, you got a FAULTY XBOX ONE S??? just replace it. Im pretty sure i have more uhd hdr films than you, and even my blu ray collection is bigger (i went crazy after buying the oled) and i had NO, zero, issues whatsoever. be it older, blu ray, 3d, 4k non hdr, 4k hdr. the only reason im gonna change the one s is when they release discs with dolby vision.

maybe its the user whos causing the problems and not the machine? just askin'

Hahaha, it's not faulty, just bad software unfortunately, like I said the 2 others who I know personally have the same issues, sooo......

Anyway so if it's not faulty then it's my fault right? Oh dear, guess I shouldn't be able to use my 4 other HDR capable devices either?

Stop taking it personally, and grow up.

 

[DagnastyEp]

Looks like the C7 is $500 off MSRP, not sure if it's permanent or just a temporary cut.

Best Buy and Amazon now have the 55 for $3000, and the 65 for $4500. I'm not sure about other stores, but my local Best Buy just got in their store display and started stocking the 2017 OLEDs (previously this BB was selling the 2017 OLEDs online only, with option to ship to store)

 

[diarrhea_pangs]

Still at Firmware 4.30.65 on my 65 "LG OLED B6. The Chinese website doesn't even have the model listed on their site under downloads.
Tech support said, We are sorry but we don't know when. Sigh

 

[BriareosGAF]

Looks like the C7 is $500 off MSRP, not sure if it's permanent or just a temporary cut.

Thanks, I just got my order which is arriving tomorrow refunded $500 .

 

[Demption]

Would you say there is not enough reasons to buy KS8000 because 4k OLEDs are getting cheaper?

 

[Ocho]

So what's the general consensus on the best 4K Blu Ray player? I've got a B6 for what it's worth.

Edit: On Amazon the best two choices I can find are a samsung player and an xbox one s (but by reading the comments below it looks like it's controversial).

Edit: Nvm found a bunch more.

 

[Madness]

Lmao that was a joke homie. You can bet your ass Scorpio is gonna have the same thing though.

The regular and S have a crushed output, limited or full rgb. Doesn't matter. Anyone who wants to talk that down is denying the truth. If you are not bothered by that fine.

Yeah it's a joke then not that you seemingly see black crush everywhere where others don't. Scorpio isn't out but you are certain it will have black crush. Okay.

It's a scientific fact the Xbox one S is garbage as fuck as a UHD player. You and the other 9 people just don't know any better because you haven't used a real UHD player yet.

Did I insult your favorite plastic box ? Awwwww I'm sorry.

People like you have ruined the discourse of the thread. Enjoy it. This is a thread for televisions and technology and it has turned into a gamefaqs style console fanboy war full of hyperbole and feelings.

On the contrary, I'm actually doing people a service, and warning against buying the S as an UHD player! What am I supposed to say when films keep refusing to play and display the picture correctly, when I spend 10 minutes each time stopping and resetting the Xbox to make sure it's outputting correctly? The enjoyment I should be getting is stopped dead in it's tracks, and we are not talking minor picture issues here.

You guys don't wanna hear it and that's fine, but blame Microsoft, not me.

And for the record, the Panny UB700 has been floorless, and for anyone who has a decent blu ray collection seriously needs to consider this player, as the upscaling is something else.

No you can be completely valid. But when you assume your problems are the norm and disregard others who don't have it, that is the issue. I've watched Mad Max, BvS: Dawn of Justice, Battleship, and now Planet Earth II all on UHD using the Xbox One S. No skipping, no load times, no picture quality issues.

I mean you keep mentioning the Panasonic UB700 a discontinued blu-ray player that costs several more hundred dollars. In fact the UB900 is almost 4 times the cost. Again, numerous reviews have shown the picture quality of the Xbox One S was very similar to identical to the Phillips or Samsung 8500 2016 player releases. The goal was cheap and decent UHD playback for people without breaking the bank. Naturally, you will see prices fall. Maybe people can spend a little more and get this years Sony 800 blu-ray player which is around $300 or more.

All of you do a disservice to discourse with hyperbole, feelings and it is crazy you don't see it. People will ultimately do what they want. So you guys do you.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Looks like the C7 is $500 off MSRP, not sure if it's permanent or just a temporary cut.

Best Buy and Amazon now have the 55 for $3000, and the 65 for $4500. I'm not sure about other stores, but my local Best Buy just got in their store display and started stocking the 2017 OLEDs (previously this BB was selling the 2017 OLEDs online only, with option to ship to store)

Yep, I noticed this too. Been watching stock in my area, as of last week only a few BB stores have one. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on the 65".

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

Yeah it's a joke then not that you seemingly see black crush everywhere where others don't. Scorpio isn't out but you are certain it will have black crush. Okay.





People like you have ruined the discourse of the thread. Enjoy it. This is a thread for televisions and technology and it has turned into a gamefaqs style console fanboy war full of hyperbole and feelings.



No you can be completely valid. But when you assume your problems are the norm and disregard others who don't have it, that is the issue. I've watched Mad Max, BvS: Dawn of Justice, Battleship, and now Planet Earth II all on UHD using the Xbox One S. No skipping, no load times, no picture quality issues.

I mean you keep mentioning the Panasonic UB700 a discontinued blu-ray player that costs several more hundred dollars. In fact the UB900 is almost 4 times the cost. Again, numerous reviews have shown the picture quality of the Xbox One S was very similar to identical to the Phillips or Samsung 8500 2016 player releases. The goal was cheap and decent UHD playback for people without breaking the bank. Naturally, you will see prices fall. Maybe people can spend a little more and get this years Sony 800 blu-ray player which is around $300 or more.

All of you do a disservice to discourse with hyperbole, feelings and it is crazy you don't see it. People will ultimately do what they want. So you guys do you.

They are known widespread issues with the UHD player in the S, and I actually did a comparison myself with the actual picture quality, when it was displaying HDR as it should, the quality was very close to be fair, but it's not the drive, but the awful blu ray app and software that's causing the issues, and it isn't acceptable!

Funny thing is, many people will end up watching a film and not realise the player has fucked up, and think the film just looks rubbish, so in a funny kind of way, Microsoft's "giving 4K Blu Ray playback to the masses" actually goes against promoting it, but hurting it.

Great.

 

[Beer Monkey]

MS has to fix the black crush on the Scorpio or I'm not buying.

 

[Insane Metal]

Samsung's Q9Fs review by techradar - 4.5/5

 

[Yukstin]

So what's the general consensus on the best 4K Blu Ray player? I've got a B6 for what it's worth.

Edit: On Amazon the best two choices I can find are a samsung player and an xbox one s (but by reading the comments below it looks like it's controversial).

Edit: Nvm found a bunch more.

I'm waiting to get reviews on the Sony x800 and the LG UP970 before upgrading. I'm using the Xbox S but can't stand the fan noise and the lack of a remote instead of the controller.

 

[vpance]

Samsung's Q9Fs review by techradar - 4.5/5

Samsung has done a really good job with preserving highlight detail on their flagships for HDR10, much more so than LG or the Z9D.

 

[Ocho]

I'm waiting to get reviews on the Sony x800 and the LG UP970 before upgrading. I'm using the Xbox S but can't stand the fan noise and the lack of a remote instead of the controller.

Yeah I was looking at that Sony device. Might just go with it and hope for the best.

 

[Yukstin]

Yeah I was looking at that Sony device. Might just go with it and hope for the best.

After I posted, I jumped over to the AVS forums and checked out the owners threads for both. Generally, people are happy with the Sony build quality and disc playback with the only potential drawbacks being a lack of streaming options (not important to me) and if Sony will add DV with a firmware update.

LG only just shipped but there are several comments about cheap build quality along with a lot of vibrations when playing UHD discs. Smaller sample size of owners but it's a little concerning compared with the Sony. LG also has a lack of streaming apps at the moment.

I wanted to lean LG since I have a C6 but it looks like I'll probably go with Sony. I've had one of their blu-ray players since 2010 and it's been solid.

 

[Ocho]

After I posted, I jumped over to the AVS forums and checked out the owners threads for both. Generally, people are happy with the Sony build quality and disc playback with the only potential drawbacks being a lack of streaming options (not important to me) and if Sony will add DV with a firmware update.

LG only just shipped but there are several comments about cheap build quality along with a lot of vibrations when playing UHD discs. Smaller sample size of owners but it's a little concerning compared with the Sony. LG also has a lack of streaming apps at the moment.

I wanted to lean LG since I have a C6 but it looks like I'll probably go with Sony. I've had one of their blu-ray players since 2010 and it's been solid.

Good to know!

 

[ThxObambam]

I believe there's a user on here that runs the comp cycle once a week. I dunno if it actually does do anything to the lifespan of the panel but I also haven't had the need to run it again since the initial episode so who knows.

Think of it as shedding your skin throughout your life. Eventually your skin doesn't maintain the same elasticity or colour as it did when you were younger.
It's the same thing with OLED conditioning.

Every time you do it you're removing another layer which over time will actually make the image darker and darker. This is why that warning exists for end users.

Sony OLED TVs however, will do a screen check every night or after power loss to check the integrity of the panel and do what they call "pixel washing". I don't know exactly what it's doing but I know it's a lot less intense than doing the screen conditioning.