xeroborn55
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The english voices kind of bugged me for the first few hours. Now, 40 hours in, i think it might be the best dub ive ever heard. I have very few complaints about the translation either. For such a massive game they did a great job
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chrominance
Member
I think the voice talent did a great job with what they were given, for the most part; I don't recall a whole lot of stiffness or awkwardness in the performances. It's nearly entirely in the text. For example, just because "Honestly, I hesitated on accepting someone like you, but there were some circumstances on our side..." doesn't sound awful when spoken, it doesn't mean it's suddenly less awkward English. There's also at least one instance where a voice actor gamely recites a line that most native speakers would catch immediately as a mistake (I think a singular noun was turned into a plural one). It wasn't the "was a scum" line either, which I didn't notice/didn't see in my playthrough.
Generally, everything's understandable, so you're not missing out on the nuts and bolts of the story. But it does pull you out a little every time someone says something that doesn't parse as native spoken English, or parses as something a specific character wouldn't say (ex. when the teenagers use overly formal grammar with one another).
He can't if they had physical repel
Nose Master
Member
...you can just hold X during the (SL / battle mechanics)
thing? I've been mashing the entire game since I got it.
bullet rush
chrominance
Member
Yup. I figured that out after a few rounds of it. In practice, I don't think it matters what you do anyways;
there seems to be a hard cap on how much damage you can do, as a percentage of each enemy's health.
I know there was one line where someone says something like "It's been a long time since I was here last" and I was thinking while it worked, it would've sounded more natural if they said "It's been a long time since I was last here"
It's mostly just minor things like that though.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
The translations ingame and in anime cutscenes, is so awkward.
While the anime cutscenes have no translations at all. Japanese letters everywhere.
Then there are these awkward translation things.
On the principal desk, it reads "Principal", while on the SIU desk, it is still in moonrunes.
While the anime cutscenes have no translations at all. Japanese letters everywhere.
Then there are these awkward translation things.
On the principal desk, it reads "Principal", while on the SIU desk, it is still in moonrunes.
spleenpoker
Member
Thanks for all the replies everyone! Can't wait to dig into the game at the end of the month.
I just found it interesting someone in the bitching about the localization thread that they butchered the characters personalities compared to the JP version but it doesn't seem to be the case, thankfully
I just found it interesting someone in the bitching about the localization thread that they butchered the characters personalities compared to the JP version but it doesn't seem to be the case, thankfully
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Dudeee I finally fully understand what went down. Thanks for the explanation.
This is exactly why I deemed Merciless to not be worth it and switched to Hard. No regrets; it was a much better experience.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Thats most likely unchanged from the japanese original. You will see lots of english signage in japan.
Some people are more sensitive about it than others but honestly, if it was horrible, I would've acknowledged it but it wasn't bad at all. The English VO def saves any awkward lines.
Btw, to add to one of my previous posts, the best thing about
is that he can deal >1000 phys damage with only 50hp thanks to one of his abilities (can't remember the name right now). It's ridiculous.
Rafael
More like Black Frost, Mabufudyne the shit out of them
Liquid Mercury is much easier to farm in the 5th Palace.
Check vending machines. I know there's one right across from Leblanc's coffee shop (beside the bathhouse & laundromat) that sells SP recovery items. They're really cheap, but you can only buy a few at a time once a week.
TetraGenesis
Member
But where's the fun in that??
ShadowSoldier89
Member
the lowest floor that anubis spawns on often has double anubis encounters. Once you clear the floor you can use fast travel to exit the floor and then just reenter. Took me like 15 minutes to get enough materials.
Mediking
Member
It's on PSN right now. Just bought more costume DLC. Lol
I personally wasnt worried about eternal lockpick because actually making lockpicks on spare nights helped increase proficiency which i needed badly...
He spawns in floors 10 and 11 of Akzeriyyuth btw
What drops it in the 5th?
Decarabia. The easiest demon to kill.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
DAN is the first I've bought. Figured since I was originally only going to buy Catherine, and know that I will be done with the game by the time that hits, I'd mess around the rest of my NG+ run with swimsuits and dance outfits. Haru's DAN outfit is pretty amazing anyway
I'm not "worried", I'm obsessed.
chrominance
Member
That I get, having the animation team go back and replace all the signage with English translations would be time-consuming and expensive for not much gain, given that the vast majority of that signage isn't important to the plot at all. Plus, it's not as simple as just replacing text; there's a design aspect that doesn't exist in the same way when translating subtitled text. Imagine creating an English version of this:
Get it later.
That I get, having the animation team go back and replace all the signage with English translations would be time-consuming and expensive for not much gain, given that the vast majority of that signage isn't important to the plot at all. Plus, it's not as simple as just replacing text; there's a design aspect that doesn't exist in the same way when translating subtitled text. Imagine creating an English version of this:
Easy: A column of captions. Anime subs do this often.
It's not aesthetically great, but when it comes to scenes where the Japanese text is obviously important to the context or story, it's better than nothing.
Listening to that now. It's in the OST, blessed.
Mediking
Member
Ohhhh nice.
I've been buying all the costume DLC as they release. Lol. I like 'em all but SMTIV and Karukozaka High uniforms are becoming my favorite.
crimzonflame
Member
Im still early in the game but you can find SP recovery items from the following vending machines:
- School courtyard
- Vending machine outside the bath house
- Vending machine by the fortune teller
Mediking
Member
Just have fun. Please don't get too wrapped up in the stats and other stuff. Just do activities YOU wanna do. The game is much more fun that way, in my opinion.
I don't even look for them, and they've slowly gotten harder to ignore.
The most hilarious ones are whenever they're scolding the Shadows. They tend to use the most grandiose and superfluous words. A recent highlight was the use of the phrase "stairway of sin". I'm like... sure.
No joke. I thought they were being nitpicky with the bad translation examples at first, but then I went to twitter and found threads with like 60 examples, some of which weren't just awkward, but straight up broken english.
Worst part is that once you see too much of those, it's impossible to not start noticing them everywhere. Just yesterday I accepted a Mementos request about a girl being abused by her parents, and Makoto said "We must release her from her current state!" like... Ok.
And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say the bad localization probably dumbed down most characters' charm either. There's an example in the thread where someone lists like five Morgana lines, asking players to guess who says which without disclosing they're all Morgana, and having played like 90 hours at the time, I couldn't tell who the hell it was for any of them lmao, that's goddamn tragic.
I think it's fansubbed anime tier, and it's no wonder so many people see it as alright, I mean, anime fansubs have lowered the standards of what to expect from jp to en translations quite a lot.
I think the very fact that so many of the awkward lines are voiced is reason enough for them not to bother retranslating it at all. The sheer amount of lines that need to be edited would turn a relatively simple localization process in basically localizing the whole thing a second time.
You're pretty funny. Ever considered a career as a stand up comedian?
Nocturnowl
Member
Having back to back scenes of Kawakami making it obvious I can doss in class followed immediately by her social link related "look how good a teacher she is today!" scene, perfect.
seems like a lot of work for the ouya port
arturo2666
Banned
10/10
Palace 5 is cool so far. Really like the setting of it with the
and all.
Also downloaded the Makoto theme/avatar set, but had to put in my Paypal information because it still keeps telling me my card information is invalid, which is weird. The theme is pretty awesome, though.
spaceport
Also downloaded the Makoto theme/avatar set, but had to put in my Paypal information because it still keeps telling me my card information is invalid, which is weird. The theme is pretty awesome, though.
Yes to all of this.
I used to see it as being just fine myself, and that's in spite of the fact that the last game I played was NieR: Automata, where its localization/dub was more than excellent. I thought "Meh, seems par for the course for the most part, I'm still enjoying the game." But I'm 90 hours in, and yea, my opinion regarding the localization/script has greatly soured, to the point where I can now easily understand why it's getting such harsh criticism, why people feel such an anticipated game deserves much better, etc.
I think this is where my English knowledge may feel a bit lacking TBH. Maybe because I'm not a native speaker, when I see a lot of those lines I just don't notice them. Maybe it doesn't flow as well as it should, maybe there is something about how it's structured that is wrong, but most of the time I just don't notice it.