Destiny 2 Reveal Livestream [Over]
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I don't know what future content is in store for Destiny 2 but from what we've heard, their new tools and engine allow them to create content at a more rapid and efficient rate meaning they SHOULD be able to avoid the long content droughts that plagued the first game, so we'll see.
Gudji
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Seems to be that way. Hopefully we'll get some juicy footage from community members soon.
I imagine this was the main focus of the new engine over everything else.
wesleyshark
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9pm est I think?
Gudji
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No clue. Haven't seen anything regarding that.
Phase 3 has begun!
If you are skeptical about the amount of content the sequel might have, I don't see how watching a live reveal is going to fix that.
RebornYeti
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The biggest disappointment for me (and probably many others) was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YoJjdEBv8
I really doubt there will be any crossplay(PS4 playing with PC, etc.) between platforms. A lot of folks (myself included) are just hoping for cross saves, so that I could play using the same character on PC and PS4, and switch back and forth to play with different groups.
It's the thing they were least happy about when they did the GDC talk about the engine years back, so yeah.
Anticlimactic. Was expecting something more than this. I believe the Kotaku reports that said D2 has had a very troubled development.
I'm sure it'll still sell gangbusters anyway.
Edit: my bad, I got confused between the Kotaku article about D1's troubled development, and their other article about the lack of Destiny content in 2016, which also mentioned the delay for D2 that lots of people apparently didn't know about. Sorry for confusion.
I'm sure it'll still sell gangbusters anyway.
Edit: my bad, I got confused between the Kotaku article about D1's troubled development, and their other article about the lack of Destiny content in 2016, which also mentioned the delay for D2 that lots of people apparently didn't know about. Sorry for confusion.
SpiceMelange
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Perfect example of bigger scope I was talking about. Flying vehicles could be cool too.
GwyndolinCinder
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The reaction from irl friends + non gaming social media to this has been very poor.
I mean some of the comments i've seen are this type of garbage
"Looks like Bungie miss Halo to me. 343 the true heroes it seems. I'll give Destiny 2 a look. Not happy about content exclusivity to bleddy PS4 again. Pffft!! Don't forget what console made you famous Bungie!!!"....., but most people seem to be complaining its overpriced dlc.
Destiny greatly benefitted by being alot of peoples first "MMO", and its interesting how thats caused them to have different expectations than most MMO players would have for a new expansion/Sequel.
I mean some of the comments i've seen are this type of garbage
"Looks like Bungie miss Halo to me. 343 the true heroes it seems. I'll give Destiny 2 a look. Not happy about content exclusivity to bleddy PS4 again. Pffft!! Don't forget what console made you famous Bungie!!!"....., but most people seem to be complaining its overpriced dlc.
Destiny greatly benefitted by being alot of peoples first "MMO", and its interesting how thats caused them to have different expectations than most MMO players would have for a new expansion/Sequel.
ElRenoRaven
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I'm glad to see intellect etc gone personally. If I want to manage stats I'll play a RPG. I know some will miss it though so I do feel for those people.
I think so. Byf said his videos would be up then.
Grumplestiltskin
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Well that was ... underwhelming. I thought it was supposed to be a big step up graphically? It looked almost completely the same to me and everything they showed feels more iterative than game changing. Very disappointed.
RoyalLaFlame
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Well, I like this.
wesleyshark
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Dynasty8
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The engine looks similar to D1, with some decent improvements. This isn't a problem for me since D1 still plays better than 99% of the shooters out there.
Since Bungie claimed that over 50% people didn't experience the D1 Raids, I say after year 1 is done with D2 around 2018-2019, bring back remastered versions of Vault of Glass, Crota, Kings Fall, and Wrath of the Machine. I don't want to be one of those nostalgia freaks that constantly whine about bringing old multiplayer maps and other stuff, but the raids are (IMHO) the best gaming experience I've ever had.
Make new Raids for D2 obviously, but throw in remastered ones as a bonus. (Extra content to keep us playing and do those D1 players who weren't able to team up a favor).
Since Bungie claimed that over 50% people didn't experience the D1 Raids, I say after year 1 is done with D2 around 2018-2019, bring back remastered versions of Vault of Glass, Crota, Kings Fall, and Wrath of the Machine. I don't want to be one of those nostalgia freaks that constantly whine about bringing old multiplayer maps and other stuff, but the raids are (IMHO) the best gaming experience I've ever had.
Make new Raids for D2 obviously, but throw in remastered ones as a bonus. (Extra content to keep us playing and do those D1 players who weren't able to team up a favor).
How you explained it made me hate the decision to make snipers and shotguns power weapons
Surprised so many people think it looks similar graphically. There's a full PBR pipeline, higher res textures, more texture variety, overhauled lighting, higher poly counts, improved lighting, improved weather effects, and significantly improved particle effects. D1's cross gen routes really show but the art style made up for it. This has a lot more modern visual features while also supporting larger environments.
Ephemeris
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i need my running boots!
Ok, maybe they'll have more complicated boss mechanics... how does this tell us anything about story ambition?
intellect, dis and strength being gone just means i'll stop playing the game sooner than i did destiny 1. the T12 gear hunt was real and i put in the hours to have a hunter fully and perfectly specced for either pvp or pve
I feel like for destiny 2 once i get the weapons everyone is raving about, and i will get them, i will toss the game to the bushes. don't think it will hold me hostage like the first game did. like i said, i thought they would've gone grander with the character building instead of otherwise, especially after hearing about "weapon mods".
dude said universal cooldowns. doesn't sound like you can do anything to change them
I feel like for destiny 2 once i get the weapons everyone is raving about, and i will get them, i will toss the game to the bushes. don't think it will hold me hostage like the first game did. like i said, i thought they would've gone grander with the character building instead of otherwise, especially after hearing about "weapon mods".
dude said universal cooldowns. doesn't sound like you can do anything to change them
brianjones
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really underwhelmed as a big fan of d1
looks like a glorified expansion
looks like a glorified expansion
This, I think it looked great. I personally hoped for some more improvements on the animation front, but it'll gladly play this.
There was more story development and characterization in the partial playthrough of a single mission than the entirety of Vanilla Destiny.
Just downloaded the trailer from Gamersyde and honestly, I couldn't tell the difference for most part. I thought it looked like one of the newer expansions and hoped they have improved upon things like draw distance and LoD transitions. I think the fact that many aren't able to tell the difference is a problem not for the individuals but Bungie (perhaps it's the style that they are utilizing).
That said looking at the livestream (well, now) the effect works look ramped up considerably. Perhaps more gameplay reveal will show what the initial trailer failed to convey.
Jest Chillin
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Still too early. None of the press/streamers at the event were able to inspect any gear or look into their skill trees. Couldn't look into the Class tree either.
The new system may be different but it doesn't mean min/maxing is gone.
josecitoxnyo
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Ask yourself why would that be a thing.
People need to seriously start thinking what they're asking.
Ephemeris
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Can't see why not if they're doing Raids and Nightfalls.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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Guided games is just raid matchmaking right? I hope we can matchmake for heroic mode and not just normal D:
It was a lot more obvious in the actual gameplay footage. Rain, explosions, and post processing all over the place during combat. Hopefully we get some footage of that soon.
sono
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I am reading all the hype in this thread and I dont get it.
In the first game the SP motivation was you built up your light to fight the forces of darkness and we spend person years collectively doing that and with some expectation that the traveller might be reawakened
The opening reveal for this indicated that all of that is wiped away and we start again.
Its like saying we know we told you that banging your head against this brick wall would eventually get you through but we just doubled the thickness of the wall, but please carry on
So this reveal has not only removed any desire for me to play 2, but also removed any remaining desire to continue to play 1 because I now know what is coming next..
I am a goal focussed kind of player..
Am I alone in my sadness
Oh and no wonder the speaker is missing he has probably gone and hidden somewhere. If I find him I will personally kill him for wasting my time.
lol
In the first game the SP motivation was you built up your light to fight the forces of darkness and we spend person years collectively doing that and with some expectation that the traveller might be reawakened
The opening reveal for this indicated that all of that is wiped away and we start again.
Its like saying we know we told you that banging your head against this brick wall would eventually get you through but we just doubled the thickness of the wall, but please carry on
So this reveal has not only removed any desire for me to play 2, but also removed any remaining desire to continue to play 1 because I now know what is coming next..
I am a goal focussed kind of player..
Am I alone in my sadness
Oh and no wonder the speaker is missing he has probably gone and hidden somewhere. If I find him I will personally kill him for wasting my time.
lol
Gudji
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Raids, Trials of Osiris and Nightfalls.
Also from the community from (thanks zewone):
The UI looks super clean, love it.
CraigerGamer
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Just read on twitter that the PC version will be released 2 months after the console versions. Is this true??
It's an in game LFG tool. Sounds like it can be used for anything.
Smokey_Run
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Honestly, they need to confirm you can use it with any number of individuals seeking and guiding. All they talked about is needing one more person.
What if me and a friend want to do a raid? Can we join 4 others? Can we host our own fireteam and find 4 others?
Cause if it's just catering to solo players, that's also unacceptable IMO.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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Hmmmm, does that mean my group of 4 can't matchmake unless we get 2 people from another clan to join by using it? They can decline us.....
If this is true what the fuck is going on over at Bungie? Cause the first one had a troubled development as well. Are they unable to adapt to the size of their team, budget, and demands of acivitison? So weird.
Its just nostalgia goggles. My brain thinks Mario Kart 64 looks like a less busy Mario Kart 8D. Which it obviously doesnt. Its strange to think about it since Destiny 1 is only 3 years old.
But yeah its nostalgia goggles. People just see the upgrades and think "thats what Destiny always looked like" despite that not being true.
yanipheonu
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This really feels like the reveal for the hardcore fans.
For a long time player like me, I saw loads of new stuff from the first gameplay footage. It's one of those "the devil's in the details" things. I could clearly see all the new things I'd never seen before.
Makes sense given it was an audience filled with YouTubers who cover this every day.
I'm going to assume E3 will be more New/Lapsed players. But it means this was an uneven showing.
For a long time player like me, I saw loads of new stuff from the first gameplay footage. It's one of those "the devil's in the details" things. I could clearly see all the new things I'd never seen before.
Makes sense given it was an audience filled with YouTubers who cover this every day.
I'm going to assume E3 will be more New/Lapsed players. But it means this was an uneven showing.
Jest Chillin
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Heroic should be there. Isn't shown in the screen though. But may not be "unlocked" yet.
This is my worry:
Do you need to hover over Heroic to see the options appear or did they seriously introduce this to only work with normal. (Which doesn't even make sense because anything less than heroic on a Nightfall makes it not an actual Nightfall.)
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