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[Shaanyboi]

I'm not gonna lie. I got a bit emotional when she performed her first major act of heroism in the full costume. The quick decision to do it, the framing of her, the music, the way the rest of the men realized their opportunity and fought back- it was pitch perfect. Finally, a superheroine that isn't an absolute embarrassment. Gal Gadot knocked it out of the park. A well deserved success for the DCEU.

The field bit was one of those perfect visual metaphors that, even if it's pretty plainly simplistic to read, is still a perfect encapsulation of what these characters are.

She leads a charge into a fucking hellscape, opening an opportunity for everyone else to move forward. But once even she is stalled and can't go further, it's everyone else that has her back to keep charging forward.

Reminded me a lot of the Xavier vs. Magneto fight in First Class. Eric launches his attack against his humanity, and Charles tries to stop him. But every strike Charles makes, and every strike Magneto makes in return, it weakens his attack on mankind. But ultimately Eric's own actions that hurts the ones he loves.

Again, it's an obvious metaphor, but similarly take that description and widen it to the broader stances that these characters represent, it stays the same.

 

[DeathyBoy]

The field bit was one of those perfect visual metaphors that, even if it's pretty plainly simplistic to read, is still a perfect encapsulation of what these characters are.

She leads a charge into a fucking hellscape, opening an opportunity for everyone else to move forward. But once even she is stalled and can't go further, it's everyone else that has her back to keep charging forward.

Reminded me a lot of the Xavier vs. Magneto fight in First Class. Eric launches his attack against his humanity, and Charles tries to stop him. But every strike Charles makes, and every strike Magneto makes in return, it weakens his attack on mankind. But ultimately Eric's own actions that hurts the ones he loves.

And undermines Ares message too. Gods can help humanity, but humanity has to want to be saved.

It's a very Superman thing, a being that powerful inspiring people to be better than they ever thought they could.

 

[ultracal31]

Saw it

Finally glad to see everything in context and heck that No Man Land's scenes works a lot better with audio

The things that were adjusted or trimmed out were for the curious:

- action beat in warehouse where guy hits Wonder Woman and she takes out her sword in response

- Ares hitting Wonder Woman and causing her having a minor gash wound on her thigh

- the spin. For a long time the spin was in the movie but never quite worked as it always looked silly within its context.

Spoiler

The spin happened during Wonder Woman rampage at the base after Steve's death and this part was when she came out of the spin which is why she has her arms out

- mid credit scene with

Spoiler

Hippolyta overlooking a cliff on Themyscira and then Venelia shows up and tells her about the similar looking cube from Cyborg BVS scene is acting up. Cut to a bunch of amazon warriors with spears dawn surrounding the cube as its pulse and starts to crack

 

[broncobuster]

Saw it

Finally glad to see everything in context and heck that No Man Land's scenes works a lot better with audio

The things that were adjusted or trimmed out were for the curious:

- action beat in warehouse where guy hits Wonder Woman and she takes out her sword in response

- Ares hitting Wonder Woman and causing her having a minor gash wound on her thigh

- the spin. For a long time the spin was in the movie but never quite worked as it always looked silly within its context.

Spoiler

The spin happened during Wonder Woman rampage at the base after Steve's death and this part was when she came out of the spin which is why she has her arms out

- mid credit scene with

Spoiler

Hippolyta overlooking a cliff on Themyscira and then Venelia shows up and tells her about the similar looking cube from Cyborg BVS scene is acting up. Cut to a bunch of amazon warriors with spears dawn surrounding the cube as its pulse and starts to crack

Glad they took out the JL tease. I mean, ultimately excited to see Amazons in Justice League, but I like how standalone it felt as is.

 

[BossDarkseid]

Glad they took out the JL tease. I mean, ultimately excited to see Amazons in Justice League, but I like how standalone it felt as is.

Yeah, that sounds so...like purely set up. Maybe if when Diana was stealing the Lassoo etc, she sees the Mother Box as a relic from when Amazons helped fight Darkseid off would make it have more relevance...kudos to whoever actually made the decision to let Wonder Woman stands on its own.

*also just seen it made over $200mil WW in opening weekend which seems pretty nuts*

Edit: The spin stuff is weird, like I can imagine how silly it would look - but equally even though it make me chuckle during the Amazonian training I didn't mind because they're superhuman so using this super-human acrobatics to show off their prowess seemed fine. Would probably look a tad stupid with Diana doing some roundhouse kick to a dozen WW1 era soldiers.

 

[Spinluck]

In this universe, Wonder Woman is better at being super than Superman.

 

[Shaanyboi]

In this universe, Wonder Woman is better at being super than Superman.

MoS2 is going to be Clark having to relearn how to do everything after being dead fucked with his head, and Wonder Woman is going to have to explain it all to him.

WW: "Okay next question. You see innocent people suffering and under threat. What do you do?"

Supes: "...Let them die?"

WW: *facepalm*

 

[DeathyBoy]

Bruce scouring the Earth for the original photo and sending it to Diana via armoured courier sets up JL better than any silly tease could have.

I mean the idea of Bruce and Diana as Bro's to that extent gives me hope they'll nail JL. The Justice League should be the F and F familia dialled to eleven. These guys aren't an Avengers style time bomb, they should always be presented as a genuine group of friends who enjoy spending time together.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

In this universe, Wonder Woman is better at being super than Superman.

Superman had the misfortune of growing up as one of us scummy humans. Was far easier for WW to be heroic given her limited knowledge of humanity, belief that humans were all good (which she got from her mother's stories) and her laser focus on finding Aries.

Maybe if WW had been raised like Superman, seeing all the ugliness for her whole life maybe all of her actions and reactions wouldn't have been so positive.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Superman had the misfortune of growing up as one of us scummy humans. Was far easier for WW to be heroic given her limited knowledge of humanity, belief that humans were all good (which she got from her mother's stories) and her laser focus on finding Aries.

Maybe if WW had been raised like Superman, seeing all the ugliness for her whole life maybe all of her actions and reactions wouldn't have been so positive.

The difference between them is that Hippolyta banishing Diana was not presented solely as an act of anger. There was love and pride there too. Jon Kent was just a douchebag.

 

[black070]

I enjoyed it but I don't really agree with all the praise it's getting, it had its strong moments for sure but it was by no means consistent and the third act was simply terrible. I'd equate it to The Wolverine, a serviceable entry but nothing spectacular or noteworthy. It just seems like the consensus is being inflated simply because it isn't outright bad like the previous entrys (according to critics at least), though saying that I could easily rewatch Man of Steel over this.

 

[DeathyBoy]

I enjoyed it but I don't really agree with all the praise it's getting, it had its strong moments for sure but it was by no means consistent and the third act was simply terrible. I'd equate it to The Wolverine, a serviceable entry but nothing spectacular or noteworthy. It just seems like the consensus is being inflated simply because it isn't outright bad like the previous entrys (according to critics at least), though saying that I could easily rewatch Man of Steel over this.

It had nothing as rubbish as Kon Kent getting sucked off by a tornado

 

[Shaanyboi]

It had nothing as rubbish as Kon Kent getting sucked off by a tornado

 

[Mario007]

MoS2 is going to be Clark having to relearn how to do everything after being dead fucked with his head, and Wonder Woman is going to have to explain it all to him.

WW: "Okay next question. You see innocent people suffering and under threat. What do you do?"

Supes: "...Let them die?"

WW: *facepalm*

When did Clark actually do that in MoS or BvS?

 

[BioFan]

Just saw it.
First part is amazing! Want more of the Amazons but too bad we probably won't be getting that. The London part feels draggy but still enjoyable. The third part is messy! Too cgi and simply bad.
The best DCEU movie for sure and probably in my top 5 superhero solo origins.
But can be a looot better. Without the first part, to me it feels a bit like Captain America but with Peggy Carter getting the syrum instead of steve rogers.

 

[black070]

It had nothing as rubbish as Kon Kent getting sucked off by a tornado

Man of Steel third act > Wonder Woman third act.

 

[kitsunelaine]

Okay I just saw this movie.
Me, to my dad, trying to play it cool: "I liked it"
Me, in reality: *GUSHES* oh my goddddddd wonder woman is so awesome I want to be her

 

[Einchy]

Okay I just saw this movie.
Me, to my dad, trying to play it cool: "I liked it"
Me, in reality: *GUSHES* oh my goddddddd wonder woman is so awesome I want to be her

Your dad: I should buy a tiara

 

[CadetMahoney]

I still remember when Rousey said she should have played Wonder Woman.

 

[El Topo]

I still remember when Rousey said she should have played Wonder Woman.

Rouseymania. A short-lived phenom where people wanted her to play <insert name of female action role>.

 

[Zero315]

I still remember when Rousey said she should have played Wonder Woman.

Pretty sure her three lines in Furious 7 killed any chance of her acting in anything ever again.

Now let's return Rousey to the pit of irrelevance where she belongs.

 

[TropicalFish]

Just bought the official movie novelisation and artbook, and bought tickets to watch the film again on Wednesday.

I'm in pretty deep.

I also can't wait to see the amazons again in Justice League. I'm excited to see how Zack does their fight scenes. I wonder if we'll see Diana go back to Themyscira to try and aide her family in protecting their motherbox from Steppenwolf's forces.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Just bought the official movie novelisation and artbook, and bought tickets to watch the film again on Wednesday.

I'm in pretty deep.

I also can't wait to see the amazons again in Justice League. I'm excited to see how Zack does their fight scenes. I wonder if we'll see Diana go back to Themyscira to try and aide her family in protecting their motherbox from Steppenwolf's forces.

All but confirmed.

 

[Rmagnus]

I actually think it's a great movie but some of the lines remind me of some wrpgs I played and was a little off especially aries... The smirk she had when she was in wonder woman mode was glorious. She actually reminds me of superman in the sense when she was in glasses and Diana mode it really gave of the Clark Kent vibe.

 

[Poona]

The things that were adjusted or trimmed out were for the curious:

- action beat in warehouse where guy hits Wonder Woman and she takes out her sword in response

- Ares hitting Wonder Woman and causing her having a minor gash wound on her thigh

- the spin. For a long time the spin was in the movie but never quite worked as it always looked silly within its context.

Spoiler

The spin happened during Wonder Woman rampage at the base after Steve's death and this part was when she came out of the spin which is why she has her arms out

- mid credit scene with

Spoiler

Hippolyta overlooking a cliff on Themyscira and then Venelia shows up and tells her about the similar looking cube from Cyborg BVS scene is acting up. Cut to a bunch of amazon warriors with spears dawn surrounding the cube as its pulse and starts to crack

What?

That's a bummer we missed out on that stuff. I thought there was an interview with Patty saying there were no deleted scenes.

 

[Alienous]

One thing I really appreciated about this movie was the reuse of Wonder Woman's theme by Rupert Gregson-Williams. I really understand what the MCU has lost out on by being unable to maintain character themes.

It's just a shame that the theme itself didn't transition over to being purely cello based - the electric cello didn't seem to mesh well with the era.

 

[Arkeband]

The fight choreography and framing was outstanding. I was really blown away by everything except the last fight, which was cheesy as fuck.

They also had a lot of questionable scenes where she handed off or lost her sword and/or shield and suddenly she has them again. I'm sure none of those instances are impossible to reason around but a quick cut to her picking them back up would have made it feel a bit more cohesive.

 

[MrBadger]

I seriously wasn't expecting to like this movie as much as I did.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

I thought the movie was solid. It gets Diana and Steve right, which is the most important part. It elevates the movie above mediocre. The action is full of unconvincing CGI and there are many cornball moments (including the trench scene and the climax). The humor works for the most part. I'm glad I saw the movie, but I don't plan on revisiting it anytime soon.

 

[JB1981]

Whoever told me Dolby Cinema is just louder was fucking lying. That shit was insane. The image quality was super sharp and the sound was crazy. The seats were reverberating during the explosions and the sound was so crisp. Will definitely pay for that again in the future

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Man of Steel third act > Wonder Woman third act.

And yet I felt better and more inspired by WW's resolution than MoS neck break

 

[Rookhelm]

The fight choreography and framing was outstanding. I was really blown away by everything except the last fight, which was cheesy as fuck.

They also had a lot of questionable scenes where she handed off or lost her sword and/or shield and suddenly she has them again. I'm sure none of those instances are impossible to reason around but a quick cut to her picking them back up would have made it feel a bit more cohesive.

There's one scene near the end where she first confronts Ares. She reaches to her back for her sword, and finds it missing (because it's still impaled in the General on the roof). Then it cuts away to the other heroes...then when it cuts back to WW, she's hopping down off the roof with her sword as if to say "hold on I left my sword up there lol"

Thought that was a super clumsy way of doing that...makes me wonder if there was another scene or shot planned in there and they had to cut around it.

 

[BioFan]

There's one scene near the end where she first confronts Ares. She reaches to her back for her sword, and finds it missing (because it's still impaled in the General on the roof). Then it cuts away to the other heroes...then when it cuts back to WW, she's hopping down off the roof with her sword as if to say "hold on I left my sword up there lol"

Thought that was a super clumsy way of doing that...makes me wonder if there was another scene or shot planned in there and they had to cut around it.

Yes! That should have been reshoot with her not leaving the sword. LoL...its so silly that I laughed so hard.

 

[Alienous]

There's one scene near the end where she first confronts Ares. She reaches to her back for her sword, and finds it missing (because it's still impaled in the General on the roof). Then it cuts away to the other heroes...then when it cuts back to WW, she's hopping down off the roof with her sword as if to say "hold on I left my sword up there lol"

Thought that was a super clumsy way of doing that...makes me wonder if there was another scene or shot planned in there and they had to cut around it.

Haha, I forgot about that. I made a mental note of how terrible it was while I was watching, but I guess Ares becoming Magneto shook that thought loose.

I wonder what the story was behind that.

Yes! That should have been reshoot with her not leaving the sword. LoL...its so silly that I laughed so hard.

But it's how Steve notices she's on the roof of the structure.

 

[AzerPhire]

Yes! That should have been reshoot with her not leaving the sword. LoL...its so silly that I laughed so hard.

Nah I actually like that scene, it re-enforces Ares plan to have her join him. He wasn't coming off as aggressive in response to her going up and getting the sword.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

I really enjoyed it. Didn't love it, but I do think it's the best DCEU movie so far. (juuuust barely edging out MoS which I actually like).

Pros

• Thought all the actors did great. Gal played the fish out of water, yet still knowledgeable idealist who kicks ass when she needs to really well. I always like Chris Pine and I think he does really well. Their banter was really fun and they played well off each other. All the supporting cast was fun to be around (though Chief's acting felt kind of weak).
• Action was really good. Loved how they shot her blocking bullets so efficiently. Stand out scene was definitely her rampaging through the town. No Man's Land was cool thematically but I don't think it hit me as hard as some other people. Everything the Amazons did was really bad ass and the scene on the beach was really good.
• Glad they went with WW1 instead of 2. Felt like a fresh setting for this type of movie and we rarely see WW1 in movies in general.

Cons

• I think it kind of lost it towards the end there. The Ares reveal was both a bit predictable and somewhat overwhelming. Even when they revealed Sir Patrick as Ares I was like "Ok, so this is just the form he's taken right?" then they show the flashback and nope! That's what he really looks like. Also he had the goofy mustache back then too. Their fight wasn't as cool as earlier scenes either mostly because it was just him constantly throwing stuff at her telekinetically. I thought the scene of Steve getting ready to shoot the gas was powerful and well done though.
• The German villains were pretty weak. Ludendorff was fine as a generic bad guy, but we really don't know anything about him or what makes him tick. The closest we get to that is the gala dance. Dr Poison was more interesting and I feel like they started to scratch at something deeper there but didn't have time to. Maybe that's why they let her live.

Nitpicks

• The Charlie stuff felt odd. I feel like there's a scene missing after they save the town where he talks about why he couldn't shoot. He never really gets a stand out redeeming moment either. I guess it's to comment on and show Diana that mankind is complicated? But if that's the case it doesn't really come off that way.
• This part which I also noticed:

  There's one scene near the end where she first confronts Ares. She reaches to her back for her sword, and finds it missing (because it's still impaled in the General on the roof). Then it cuts away to the other heroes...then when it cuts back to WW, she's hopping down off the roof with her sword as if to say "hold on I left my sword up there lol"
  
  Thought that was a super clumsy way of doing that...makes me wonder if there was another scene or shot planned in there and they had to cut around it.

  It was so odd that I assumed Ares had switched out the God Killer sword when it disintegrated in his hand, but nope! Just a weird edit of events.
• Thought the steroid gas was kind of random and didn't add much besides allowing Ludendorff to be on Diana's level for a minute. Not even sure why he used it when gassing high command because they dipped right after he took it lol. Plus you'd think a super soldier gas (even if temporary) alone would be enough to convince command to continue the war.

So yeah, I really did enjoy it. I'm really curious to see where they go for the second one since it will be modern day (I assume). I feel like BvS Diana was a very different character than the one in this movie so I'm curious if they roll with that, or kind of ignore it. I guess we'll get a better idea in Justice League.

 

[StarCreator]

Caught this yesterday. The group of people immediately to my left were clearly not into the movie and kept walking in and out of the theater in front of me, and talking and laughing inappropriately at the times they were actually in their seats. Might need to try to catch this again because it got really distracting at points.

hold up, i just realized something






there was no goddamn invisible jet in this

 

[Bronx-Man]

Probably a stupid question but did Ares want the Armistice signed or not?

 

[StarCreator]

Probably a stupid question but did Ares want the Armistice signed or not?

He directly influenced the events that caused Ludendorff to kill the war council, so I assume he knew Ludendorff would just ignore the armistice and bomb London with chemical weapons anyway, thus escalating the war even further.

 

[DeathyBoy]

He directly influenced the events that caused Ludendorff to kill the war council, so I assume he knew Ludendorff would just ignore the armistice and bomb London with chemical weapons anyway, thus escalating the war even further.

He also knew it was a shitty armistice and would lead to German resentment.

But terrible villain, poorly acted, how'd WW2 happen without him etc

 

[BioFan]

But it's how Steve notices she's on the roof of the structure.

I meant after that scene. She could have taken the sword before coming down with steve.

 

[Samurai G0SU]

Loved. This. Movie. Yes!

 

[Poodlestrike]

Probably a stupid question but did Ares want the Armistice signed or not?

Xanatos Gambit. Armistice gets signed, he uses the flaws and issues in it to set up the next war, which he can spin into a larger conflict to wipe out humanity. Ludendorff succeeds, he spins that into a larger conflict that he can use to wipe out humanity. Either way he gets what he wants.

 

[mamoui]

I saw it yesterday and I liked it. I probably had to much expectation thought.
One of the things I have trouble with is, why do they need the new gas to bomb London?
As far as I know (I might be wrong) there was not that much bombing of London during ww1. People probably didn't have gas masks. And even if 50% had, you made your point killing half the population.
Also from a quick search, that bomber plane at the end is way more advance that what they had during ww1 (again I might be wrong). That alone might be a war changing weapon.
I still had a really good time, but feel free to show me were I'm wrong, because the new gas thing is kind of an important point of the plot!

 

[Boke1879]

He also knew it was a shitty armistice and would lead to German resentment.

But terrible villain, poorly acted, how'd WW2 happen without him etc

Because people are shitty.

 

[Alienous]

I meant after that scene. She could have taken the sword before coming down with steve.

But the sword has no purpose to her after she's killed Ares, until she realizes that she hasn't killed Ares.

I mean, of course they could have written themselves out of that whole situation. Have Ludendorff die in a location that would leave Steve with the task of recovering the sword, maybe as Wonder Woman battles Ares.

It just seems like they hadn't planned much of the last part of the movie out.

 

[CloudyTuba]

I thought the movie was good but with a few rough patches. A couple awkward shots/cuts here and there and there was a portion of the movie that dragged really hard while she was in London. Otherwise it was pretty enjoyable, nothing that ruins the whole package for me. There is finally a DCEU movie that I like. Not great but good.

I was tickled by the blatant Superman 78 references which have already been brought up. One of WW's final moments with Ares was pretty obviously Return of the Jedi, too. Luke WW stands before the Emperor Ares as Vader Dr Poison lies defenseless to their side. Ares urges her to take the lightsaber tank, strike Dr Poison down and take her rightful place at his side. She looks at Poison and considers, then throws her weapon to the side. Never. Then you will die. Cue the force god lightning.

There is one shot I wish was just not in the movie. The flashback with mustachioed Ares. Up until that point I thought it was really cool and interesting that his 'modern' form was as an unassuming bureaucrat type. I was totally down with that; sort of a commentary on the modern day form of evil. Or so I thought. Then I found out that even in ancient times he was taking that fat stache into battle and that's just what he looks like, and I laughed. I would have preferred if they just left that shot out and let me keep assuming that he had taken a modern form.

hold up, i just realized something






there was no goddamn invisible jet in this

It was, you just didn't see it. Here's a screenshot:

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

It should be pretty funny to see how this film's quality makes Justice League look that much worse by comparison.

 

[Poona]

It should be pretty funny to see how this film's quality makes Justice League look that much worse by comparison.

How about people see that film first?

I don't get how people hate on things and call them bad before they've even seen them.

There were people in another thread before Wonder Woman's release calling the movie 100% bad and it wasn't even released yet. I replied to them at the time and haven't seen them say anything since the release of Wonder Woman so I just wonder if people love being apart of clubs where they put hate on things they haven't even seen.

 

[ionitron]

I noticed the following scene in question and was also like "wtf" lol

Nah I actually like that scene, it re-enforces Ares plan to have her join him. He wasn't coming off as aggressive in response to her going up and getting the sword.

You see, that would sound okay if it wasn't edited kinda hastily, IMO. It didn't look intentional.