Metroid: Samus Returns (Mercury Steam, Metroid 2 reimagining, 9/15) announced for 3DS

So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
 
GiantBreadbug said:
Yes Nintendo

Please port this game to Switch, even though the hardware in question is eons apart and it would take a great deal of reworking and money to do, to the point that it would basically be an entirely new development venture

Why won't you do this
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...? It would be a remaster like the million other remasters that have been done for hardware that are generational leaps(or more) from the hardware the original game came from. This is absurd. Up the resolution, and touch up a few other graphical effects and it would be great. No one is asking for it be remade from the ground up for Switch.
 
Agent_Carnage said:
Why you mad at Nintendo releasing for 3DS? Nintendo has said the Switch and 3DS are different ecosystems.

Nintendo isnt abandoning the 3DS.
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Exactly, they sold a shit ton of them this past holiday season. It's a great system for kids (I just bought my son a new 3DS to replace his 3DS XL that broke).

Sure, the Switch is the better platform, but the 3DS has a healthy place in the market.

Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
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1) Metroid 2 is the one game in the series that needed a remake. It's pretty unplayabe in the only (legit) way to play it.

2) This isn't the first time Nintendo has handed this series to a developer with a questionable track record. Also, the biggest issue with MecurySteam's Castlevania games was Konami. The first game was great, then Konami started getting involved and screwed everything up.
 
Wait...why are we mad about Mercury Steam? They are a great dev with lots of potential. Under Nintendo they'll probably be even better.

Remember what happened with Retro and MP1? People were mad at that announcement. Don't be such pessimists.
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
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I mean they already remade 1, and both Zero Mission and Super are still excellent. M2 is dated as fuck.
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?
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Super Metroid doesn't need a remake. It's already perfect.

Also, I seriously recommend watching the trailer and treehouse footage for the gameplay. Even if the visuals are iffy, this looks fun.
 
They showed A LOT of the game at the Treehouse and it looks really good, I loved what I saw of it. I've been asking for a 2D Metroid on 3DS since forever, so I'm glad it's happening finally.
 
Some still forget that there are over 70 million 3DS out there, and they're not only still selling well, but are releasing a new model soon.

Yet, Nintendo should ignore all that.
 
I wish this game was for the Switch, but whatever. I still have my New XL.

In either case, between this, Ultra Sun/Moon, and Hey Pikmin, I'm coming terms that 3DS is not being put to bed anytime soon.
 
Why the hell there are TWO Metroid games announced and I'm dissapointed by both of them?? What the hell...

Time to give Prime series it's 5th chance... maybe the 5th chance will be the one that'll make me like that series...

But this being from Mercury Steam, which made the STEAMING PILE OF SHIT called Mirror of Fate... and the visuals looking this bad (worse than AM2R, a fangame) makes me sad... =(
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?
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Metroid 2 is the game in the series most needing of a remake. Metroid 1 already got a fantastic one in Metroid: Zero Mission and Super Metroid is just as great today as it was in 1994. Metroid 2 has aged very, very poorly and I'm glad it's the game they chose for a remake.

My only reservation is Mercury Steam, but the gameplay in this already looks better than that trash fire that was Mirror of Fate.
 
This looks better than AM2R in terms of gameplay, I don't know if I can say the same of the graphics, but it's not like it looks bad.

I want everything on my Switch which makes this announcement a bit annoying but we are getting MP4 so I'm less upset.

I am really surprised that I'm going to have to buy a 3DS game, in 2017, post-Switch launch.
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
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Zero Mission is the remake of the first Metroid. Super Metroid doesn't really need a remake because it already looks good. Two needed a remake the most. I don't think it is played as much and it has gameboy grey graphics.
 
Maedhros said:
Why the hell there are TWO Metroid games announced and I'm dissapointed by both of them?? What the hell...

Time to give Prime series it's 5th chance... maybe the 5th chance will be the one that'll make me like that series...

But this being from Mercury Steam, which made the STEAMING PILE OF SHIT called Mirror of Fate... and the visuals looking this bad (worse than AM2R, a fangame) makes me sad... =(
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Well there's nothing to say here besides too bad you don't like one of the best gaming series.
 
Hmmm, it doesn't look very appealing.
But then again this is the only Metroid I've never played, so I really want it to be good. Let's see how it turns out.
 
Calling it now, the next remake is going to be Super Metroid.
Also of course it's still SR388 because we can't go anywhere but Zebes and SR388.

Toxi said:
One of my favorite things about the gameplay: It looks different from Super Metroid. It's trying new things. It's not wearing a game from 1994 like a ball and chain.

I love Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, but I feel like 2D Metroid has been pretty stagnant since Super Metroid perfected the formula. Even if these new ideas don't turn out great, it's nice seeing some ambition again.
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That was the promise they did with Other M before fumbling the ball so badly.
The shooting gameplay is already more interesting in M:SR.
Metroid 2 is also a very old game on very old hardware so there's room fro the remake to go.
It's already rather different when looking at the 1st 4 Metroids but still.
 
Every single E3 of the last decade saw hordes of fan saying "Nintendo should at least remake Metroid 2 for 3/DS, a low budget remake which everybody in the fanbase would love!"

So Nintendo finally does it and what does the fanbase do? Complain!
 
I thought Mirror of Fate was okay with the potential to be great. I think I actually wrote back then that I'd like to see a second attempt by Mercury Steam, because I could really imagine them developing a nice Metroidvania-like game with the experience they gathered.

So, yeah, I'm not actually too bothered by them doing this Metroid, especially since this is just a remake anyway. I also think this looks pretty nice for a 3DS game. Whether I'd want an entirely new Metroid by them, well, that's another story, but I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
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Metroid 2 is the one that needs a remake the most
 
Maedhros said:
Why the hell there are TWO Metroid games announced and I'm dissapointed by both of them?? What the hell...

Time to give Prime series it's 5th chance... maybe the 5th chance will be the one that'll make me like that series...

But this being from Mercury Steam, which made the STEAMING PILE OF SHIT called Mirror of Fate... and the visuals looking this bad (worse than AM2R, a fangame) makes me sad... =(
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AM2R looks as good as it does because they used a lot of sprites from Zero Mission and Fusion.
 
Nintendo: "The nintendo switch isn't going to replace the 3ds"

"yeah right! hahahahaha!"

*Pokemon ultra sun and ultra moon revealed*

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didn't watch the reveal conference but I imagine it started off with gameplay before showing off the 3ds box art?
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It's really crazy to me that people droned on and on about how Nintendo needed to make new Metroid games, then they announce 2 this year one of which is coming out in just a couple months and people are still complaining about it because it's not EXACTLY what they wanted out of a Metroid game. I feel like people choose to be unhappy at a certain point.

Anyway, I thought the game looked great on the stream. I'll definitely be picking this up and Prime 4 whenever that thing comes out. I'm just excited to be getting new Metroid games.
 
fernoca said:
Some still forget that there are over 70 million 3DS out there, and they're not only still selling well, but are releasing a new model soon.

Yet, Nintendo should ignore all that.
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I have no issue with them making a few more 3DS games as they sunset the system, but there's no reason this couldn't be cross platform, which would satisfy everyone. Particularly with the Switch lineup being rather light, this would have been a nice addition.
 
Instro said:
I have no issue with them making a few more 3DS games as they sunset the system, but there's no reason this couldn't be cross platform, which would satisfy everyone. Particularly with the Switch lineup being rather light, this would have been a nice addition.
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Switch lineup is light?
 
Speaking of Zero Mission, that game really is fantastic. My favorite Metroid of all-time. Even more so than Super Metroid. Hopefully it see a VC release on the Switch.
 
Wildo09 said:
Well there's nothing to say here besides too bad you don't like one of the best gaming series.
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I like the other Metroid games... I just hated everything about Prime, from the change to a FPS to the changes in gameplay. I just can't seem to like it, tried many times already.

linkboy said:
AM2R looks as good as it does because they used a lot of sprites from Zero Mission and Fusion.
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Yeah, I know that. But not all sprites were reused, many of them were made for the fangame. I've followed it's blog for years, the developer clearly LOVES Metroid.
 
StoppedInTracks said:
It's not.

The utter bile spewed by Nintendo "fans" and 3DS owners the 2nd day they bought Switch is embarrassing, though. See: Pokemon 3DS and Metroid 3DS threads.
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Yes, it absolutely is. The 3DS is an absolutely archaic piece of hardware at this point, and although I know that the highest install base is on 3DS, there's not really any reason that they shouldn't help boost their Switch portfolio and have it on both systems. Titles like this can help bridge the gap, so to speak.

It's not that it's coming to 3DS. It's more that it's ONLY coming to 3DS.
 
3ds games must be seen to be judged, they never look good on directs. I'm pretty happy, tried a few times to play the game on VC but it has aged too bad. The CE must be mine.
 
Drek said:
So they decide to do something with the Metroid IP and that is to...

1. remake II of all games. Not I, not Super, but II. Not a statement of quality but if they were picking the best/most acclaimed that's Super and if they wanted to do this as a whole trilogy why not start with I?

2. Hire Mercury Steam to make it, when Mercury Steam basically did the same thing with the Castlevania IP fairly recently with Mirror of Fate with mediocre results. I mean, sure, they're being handed a template and have Nintendo for oversight, but the game would likely both look and play better had they simply hired the guy making AM2R and would have cost a hell of a lot less.

3. Do the remake on the 3DS, where the whole 2.5D asthetic has basically always looked like ass. Effective life of the 3DS remaining aside, this is a style that has consistently failed to translate well to 3DS hardware. The low screen resolution leads to muddy backgrounds, the weak hardware leads to low poly models and the system doesn't have the memory or (again) display resolution to mask those low poly models in quality texturing. In the end the game looks worse than most 2D sprite based games.

Yep. Sounds like Nintendo all right.

Should have paid Wayforward to start with Metroid I and remake the whole 2D history of the franchise. Then it'd look decent on 3DS and would upscale to a Switch release perfectly, letting them really move some software.
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Metroid 2 needed a remake a hundred times more than any of the other 2 metroids. The problem I have at the moment is, I'd be much happier if Nintendo had somehow licensed AM2R from last year for release on Nintendo hardware than this.
 
Maedhros said:
Why the hell there are TWO Metroid games announced and I'm dissapointed by both of them?? What the hell...

Time to give Prime series it's 5th chance... maybe the 5th chance will be the one that'll make me like that series...

But this being from Mercury Steam, which made the STEAMING PILE OF SHIT called Mirror of Fate... and the visuals looking this bad (worse than AM2R, a fangame) makes me sad... =(
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How can you say that about a 5th? We only got a logo for Metroid Prime 4, relax dude.
 
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