Steverulez
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It was Gamescom.
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It was Gamescom.
Gamescom has always been more of a update on their current games style of conference rather than a E3 style unveil, it would make sense to show such a large PC IP as AOE at gamescom tho.
Yeh man, that scene looked amazing, those guys are wizards at animation. I think this is what fans really want from MS to out their money into games like these ie AAA in its ambition.
Would be a nice way to top off the year for announcements if we got a high profile Fable game coming (or anything new for that matter!)
Really? I am not sure what purpose games with Incredible graphics serve if they aren't percieved as good games. Games like FH3, GoW 4, Ryse and QB already look very good, and One X updates would truly showcase that. I think games can be more than just "graphics" not saying that those aren't important, but it's such and odd metric to be so obsessed with.
I think what he means is something that ticks all the boxes such as gameplay, visual, budget and animation.
Oh that Killer exclusive that truly shows of the hardware? I totally understand that, and think everyone wants that in some way.
MosquitoSmasher
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Naturally I meant that the games itself are great too. Gears 4 is great but it just didn't blow me off my couch like U4 or Horizon did. U4 and Horizon are great games and a lot of fun and on top of that look amazing. I'm just saying Xbox could use more of that. Ryse looked amazing but wasn't that great of a game in my book. QB was a fine game just too short and those graphics didn't get their full potential with the X1 hardware sadly.
Yep!
Hopefully they do a GC show. I wonder if they have enough content that warrants a show though. I mean they did skip two GCs for a a reason. But where else would a new game be announced and shown like what Studio Gobo seems to be talking about.
CassidyIzABeast
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Did we ever find out if they were working on that Starlink game for Ubisoft?
What about Sunset Overdrive though? The only negative there is for that game is that it didn't sell well, and I know Ori is and indie and therefor can be perceived as irellevant for a lot of people, but it was such a beautiful game, with lovely gameplay. And I haven't played FH3, but a lot of people seem to love that one as well.
I just think it's a shame that Fable Legends got cancelled. Had it not had the fable name in it, I am sure it would have been praised much more.
If we talk about games that manage to be immersive, than Fable legends was up there for me...(As seen in the official footage they have released yada-yada, NDA, sorry)
From Giant Bomb E3:
https://youtu.be/mWdKIQ_UOTg?t=8174
She says she is working on a MS VR game, mentions stuff around that will be unveiled around Gamescom including her game. So a conference seems like it's going to happen, but Phil has mentioned he sees VR being apart of Win10 rather than Xbox right now. So the hints about AOE news and now this. Do you think Xbox could be making their Gamescom conference more orientated to the PC gaming market, as Gamescom would be a good market for it.
https://youtu.be/mWdKIQ_UOTg?t=8174
She says she is working on a MS VR game, mentions stuff around that will be unveiled around Gamescom including her game. So a conference seems like it's going to happen, but Phil has mentioned he sees VR being apart of Win10 rather than Xbox right now. So the hints about AOE news and now this. Do you think Xbox could be making their Gamescom conference more orientated to the PC gaming market, as Gamescom would be a good market for it.
Nope, they closed Gamescom 2015 briefing with Halo Wars 2 announcement, feel free to check it
E3 2015 last game was Gears 4
Hatefilled Vengeance
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Yeah, when they teased AoE at Gamescom, they specifically said about that territory being more PC-based.
Steverulez
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Another conference with games we've just seen is not a good conference.
Someone tell them to announce something new, as in actually new, unexpected, exciting, unpredictable! Anything ffs
I'm not expecting a Gamescom conference. I don't think they would find another show of mostly the same content to be worth it especially just a couple of months after E3. Though I would expect a sizeable presence on the Gamescom show floor and a real look at Crackdown 3's multiplayer.
Oh my bad, I stand corrected. I wonder if MS are even having a Gamescom this year.
Personally I reckon they should to show gameplay of all their 1st party games with the odd announcement.
Now that they lost the marketing deal with FIFA I wonder what bundle could they announce for Europe, Forza Motorsport 7 and Assassin's Creed: Origins are the most likely, right?
If there's a conference I think it will be like this:
Forza Motorsport 7 bundle with Xbox One X and 1 month of game pass on Europe
Crackdown 3 multiplayer reveal
Shadow of the Tomb Raider reveal
Sea of Thieves progression system reveal
Recore Definitive Edition reveal
Studio Gobo game reveal
ending with a new Age of Empires
If there's a conference I think it will be like this:
Forza Motorsport 7 bundle with Xbox One X and 1 month of game pass on Europe
Crackdown 3 multiplayer reveal
Shadow of the Tomb Raider reveal
Sea of Thieves progression system reveal
Recore Definitive Edition reveal
Studio Gobo game reveal
ending with a new Age of Empires
Bits N Pieces
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They won't have a Gamescom conference but if they did.....
Crackdown 3, full multiplayer reveal and beta available now
Sea of Thieves, just more please
ReCore, re-reveal
State of Decay 2, campaign gameplay walkthrough in co op
New Age of Empires reveal, Xbox and W10 cross buy and cross play
Indie sizzle reel, 10 games in one minute just because -
nah actually show off some cool new games that we haven't seen yet
Forza 7, full race demoed and an actual demo on the marketplace now
Studio Gobo, announcement of..... a new IP or..... a new Banjo!
A few third parties
OG Xbox BC shown off with a selection of games available to insiders to test now
Xbox One X, ten minutes of showing off updated games like Gears 4, FH3 and the differences the X1 brings etc.
Get that down to about an hour or an hour fifteen and that would do me just fine, they probably won't though
Crackdown 3, full multiplayer reveal and beta available now
Sea of Thieves, just more please
ReCore, re-reveal
State of Decay 2, campaign gameplay walkthrough in co op
New Age of Empires reveal, Xbox and W10 cross buy and cross play
Indie sizzle reel, 10 games in one minute just because -
nah actually show off some cool new games that we haven't seen yet
Forza 7, full race demoed and an actual demo on the marketplace now
Studio Gobo, announcement of..... a new IP or..... a new Banjo!
A few third parties
OG Xbox BC shown off with a selection of games available to insiders to test now
Xbox One X, ten minutes of showing off updated games like Gears 4, FH3 and the differences the X1 brings etc.
Get that down to about an hour or an hour fifteen and that would do me just fine, they probably won't though
There's no need for them to do a Gamescom press conference. The last time was in 2015 but that was only because they specifically held back a few games for that.
Something like a Nintendo Direct could work though. It works well for Nintendo as a way to update us on their games throughout the year and it's something I think both Sony and MS could benefit from doing.
Something like a Nintendo Direct could work though. It works well for Nintendo as a way to update us on their games throughout the year and it's something I think both Sony and MS could benefit from doing.
That's unrealistic though. I'm saying from a realistic standpoint what would be good
DriftingSpirit
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MS' 2015 Gamescom conference was essentially a recap of what had been previously announced with the Tomb Raider exclusivity and Halo Wars 2 being the big stuff coming from it.
I think MS could do something like that again this year but we'll see.
I think MS could do something like that again this year but we'll see.
I would imagine so. I suspect AC aligns well with Europe.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Sony still have TGS at the very least. PGW is a possibility but less likely. Either way, two more shows this year for sure.
IncognitoPanda
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Has been mine as well for a while. A "make them count" stype of situation, as to not only have one new IP every year.
It's not like Xbox won't have new games and IP's coming, but they are at a disadvantage due to the lack of studios and the fact that the studios they've got are franchise manufacturers (343i, Turn 10, The Coalition, Mojang).
They won't drop Halo, Forza, Gears and Minecraft.
In fact we are getting more Halo, Forza, Gears and Minecraft from partners.
I feel you.
I always envisioned a Perfect Dark with a cyberpunkish dystopia. Joanna Dark walking out of an alley while the bright lights of the city and hover cars glimmer off of her eyes. They could have steam coming up from the sewer vents adding a a nice atmosphere to put the lighting engine on display. Photo-releastic face scans. Although an action 3rd person shooter with tight combat detective work would be huge.
It would be my Uncharted meets LA Noire meets Oni meets Horizon.
Chasetopher
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That's Ubisoft Toronto
Perfect Dark fits perfectly in the resurgence of the Immersive sim genre, thats where I wish MS would take the franchise
and I think a developer that has what it takes to make a great immersive sim is Compulsion Games, makers of We Happy Few
So please Phil, make this happen
and I think a developer that has what it takes to make a great immersive sim is Compulsion Games, makers of We Happy Few
So please Phil, make this happen
PanicFreak
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I would love a Perfect Dark that is a lot like Dues Ex but more light hearted and with weird weapons.
Yearsoflurking
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if they aren't showing anything new don't even attend gamescom
This makes so much sense.
Eidos Montreal would also be a great choice in my opinion, but they are too busy now.
It will never happen anyway.
tired_inspector
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Their 2015 games one was
- Scalwbound gameplay
- crackdown dev diary
- homefront the tebutiom gameplay
- Quantum break gameplay and date
- FIFA stuff
- Rash teaser
- Halo wars 2 teaser
They have more than enough to top that
Salty Hippo
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"Immersive sim" is such a dumb term, who came up with this trash? Perfect Dark should be like Deus Ex, maybe without some of its RPG elements. So a stealth shooter/action game.
He actually said that in October 2014. 3 years is more than enough time to at least have a bunch of stuff ready to be announced. He either was full of shit back then or Satya cut this budget hard before he could fulfill that promise. I think it's a bit of both.
He actually said that in October 2014. 3 years is more than enough time to at least have a bunch of stuff ready to be announced. He either was full of shit back then or Satya cut this budget hard before he could fulfill that promise. I think it's a bit of both.
Steverulez
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Xbox is truly in the shitter if wanting/hoping for a new exciting game announcement is "unrealistic"
ElBoxyBrown
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Some people want more than others. I'm pretty satisfied with what Microsoft had to show this year. I'm not the type of gamer that's asking for more or anything mind blowing.
MosquitoSmasher
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Not a bad idea actually. They could show Crackdown 3's MP mode with the destruction everybody wants to see and maybe a teaser of the Studio Gobo game. Assuming a teaser is ready for it. The majority of their E3 show consisted of third party games and timed exclusives, yeah that really doesn't warrant a full show.
I think if they had a show planned they would have said that by now. I recall Phil Spencer tweeting about a GC show before even E3 happened a few years ago.
Bits N Pieces
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ElBoxyBrown
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Freudian slip?
Lol, wrong choice of word.
Nightengale
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It's not that announcements at a Gamescom is unrealistic... but Xbox in past 2 years has reemphasised their focus on E3. It is reflective of the fact that they don't have a lot of new announcements these past 2 years, but not having other pressers don't hurt them.
There is nothing wrong with those franchises though, Nintendo does the same thing and gets praised for it. Outside of certain particular gaming forums, those games have many fans. (There is nothing with what ms is doing regarding those franchises maybe with exception of gears, where the talent could be used elsewhere, but that's imo.)
Bits N Pieces
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I think it does hurt them, not in the short term but certainly in the medium to long term.
Whilst Sony will be revealing new games at Gamescom/Paris, TGS and then PSX at the end of the year Xbox will just be sitting ildly in the wings twiddling their thumbs. This then turns into angst on social media and forums which journos then pick up on and start to produce articles with a negative outlook on the Xbox brand.
They have a new console coming in a few months, they really should be front and centre for gamers as much as possible. Even if they arent revealing new games they have to stay in gamers minds and by having a presser at Gamescom would help do that.
I still dont think they'll have one though
MilkyJoe
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Anyone that expects them to drop the big sellers is not very good at businessing. Look at Nintendo - How many Mario sequels, Zelda sequels, Mario Kart sequels.. etc? Sony - God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, GT etc... ? they'll keep making them because they sell a bucket load. (makes you wonder why people say it's MS that milk their franchises...)
Same goes for people that call for a year off from Call of Duty, not happening.
digoutyoursoul
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Let them get on with it mate
MosquitoSmasher
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I was playing some QB today and man I forgot hoe good this game still looks, despite the blurriness that is most likely the result of the AA they used here. But animations, the powers, how the gun mechanics feel and how enemies react to being shot it's all top notch. Shame this couldn't be Microsoft's own ND, so to speak. They are now making multiplatform games so it's all good but man.....
A new Alan Wake with this engine on the X. What could have been.
A new Alan Wake with this engine on the X. What could have been.
Yearsoflurking
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it's very selfish of me but a part of me hope remedys next ventures fail so microsoft can buy them out. remedys management is much to lax with deadlines . they need to be a bigger studio as well