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Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor fight finalized for Aug. 26 - It's on!

Obliterator said:
Yeah you never know, I could be totally 100% wrong and Conor does quit.

Still my money (if I was a betting man) is Floyd TKO Rd 8 from just an accumulation of punches and the ref calling it.
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Honestly it's just hard to say that I can put anything past what happens with Connor simply because he's never boxed professionally and now he's jumping in the ring and fighting one of the top boxers of all time in a boxing match, despite Floyd being past his prime.

The only thing Connor has on his side is Mayweather is 40, and like somebody said the pressure will be all on Floyd and not on Connor. The thing when you're fighting father time is your body can all of sudden fall apart on you. So Floyd is definitely taking a risk in that department, because I've seen boxers look good in one fight and in the next look completely old.
 
lightskintwin said:
Honestly it's just hard to say that I can put anything past what happens with Connor simply because he's never boxed professionally and now he's jumping in the ring and fighting one of the top boxers of all time in a boxing match, despite Floyd being past his prime.

The only thing Connor has on his side is Mayweather is 40, and like somebody said the pressure will be all on Floyd and not on Connor. The thing when you're fighting father time is your body can all of sudden fall apart on you. So Floyd is definitely taking a risk in that department, because I've seen boxers look good in one fight and in the next look completely old.
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Yeah Father Time is the one true GOAT and the thought has crossed my mind what if this is the fight Floyd shows up and actually looks "old". If that were to happen the combination of Conor's power and reach could actually be a pretty big threat in the early rounds.

But at the end of the day Floyd doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, and trains like an animal. Even at 40 and with a 2 year layoff I think he's still physically there for the most part even if he's slowed a bit. He should still have plenty in the tank for a boxing match against someone with Conor's level of boxing. I still think he plays things careful early because Conor does have that 1 punch KO power but as Conor slows will just pour it on the further into the fight it gets.
 
Obliterator said:
Yeah Father Time is the one true GOAT and the thought has crossed my mind what if this is the fight Floyd shows up and actually looks "old". If that were to happen the combination of Conor's power and reach could actually be a pretty big threat in the early rounds.

But at the end of the day Floyd doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, and trains like an animal. Even at 40 and with a 2 year layoff I think he's still physically there for the most part even if he's slowed a bit. He should still have plenty in the tank for a boxing match against someone with Conor's level of boxing. I still think he plays things careful early because Conor does have that 1 punch KO power but as Conor slows will just pour it on the further into the fight it gets.
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It could be something as simple as Floyd pulling a muscle during the fight or some other injury where he can't continue. Father Time is somebody you don't want to keep playing around with.
 
lightskintwin said:
I don't think Connor intends to ever fight again tbh, so I don't necessarily see that as a reason, but I do think his pride will be the main motivating factor not to quit as it is with a lot of fighters. However anybody who's followed boxing have seen Legends quit for the first time when too much was enough.
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We probably shouldn't listen to that garbage disposal unit connected to Dana's face but apparently Conor wants to fight a second time this year, that second time being in the UFC so we'll see.
 
I'd be willing to bet that part of the stipulation for the UFC allowing Conor to do this is he comes back for another fight in the UFC at the end of the year.
 
kinggroin said:
Nothing to destroy but your own integrity backing a piece of shit like Floyd. While his elbow usage is a bit overblown in that post, everything else is spot on.
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lightskintwin said:
But that's going to be so minuscule, after you made over 100 million, more money than you made your entire career, in one fight.
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A decent amount of fighters have proven over the years that you can blow through high amounts of cash fast if you really want too though. Lets say Conor buys a house to match his ego and a few cars, Paying the bills on those luxuries requires a steady income of millions a year.
 
DOBERMAN INC said:
A decent amount of fighters have proven over the years that you can blow through high amounts of cash fast if you really want too though. Lets say Conor buys a house to match his ego and a few cars, Paying the bills on those luxuries requires a steady income of millions a year.
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No doubt, but Conor might enjoy being in a position to tell Dana White and UFC, "Fuck You"
 
DOBERMAN INC said:
True and maybe wwe or another come calling in the entertainment industry, He will certainly be in a better position to negotiate, so yeah you may be right he could never fight again.
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It's going to be like Kanye "Can't Tell me Nothing"

Not only is it a Money Grab but this is a Power Play that Conor is doing.
 
I'd be willing to bet if Conor were to actually retire from fighting he would become a promoter himself. WME could use him a a role like Dana's, and he's always said he wants shares in the company.
 
I truly believe Conor will quit fighting after this. Dana said Conor promised him to come back after that fight but I assume its a lie to keep everybody happy.

Was a fun ride while it lasted :(
 
I think Conor is gonna keep fighting honestly. Sure this is a massive pay day, but he can likely get several more huge ones if he wants them. And the man is obsessed with fighting and is only 28 years old. He still has a lot of time left in the game if he wants it.

He's mentioned he plans on retiring young several times but I would think he would still fight till 30 at least.
 
Obliterator said:
I think Conor is gonna keep fighting honestly. Sure this is a massive pay day, but he can likely get several more huge ones if he wants them. And the man is obsessed with fighting and is only 28 years old. He still has a lot of time left in the game if he wants it.

He's mentioned he plans on retiring young several times but I would think he would still fight till 30 at least.
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Didnt dana say that he is fighting later again this year?
 
Obliterator said:
I think Conor is gonna keep fighting honestly. Sure this is a massive pay day, but he can likely get several more huge ones if he wants them. And the man is obsessed with fighting and is only 28 years old. He still has a lot of time left in the game if he wants it.

He's mentioned he plans on retiring young several times but I would think he would still fight till 30 at least.
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Retiring young, healthy and rich is a rare combination for fighters actually. Conor is aware of the dangers of combat sports and from all the interviews Ive seen he isnt going to push it.
 
I'd be very surprised if Conor fought again, I'd be even more shocked if it was in 2017.

The guy just had a kid, he's going to have a nice long break after the Mayweather fight.
 
Rumblebones said:
I will refrain from stating "most" - but many boxers were raised in conditions of poverty, in communities steeped in crime, violence and ignorance. They typically underachieved in school and never sought higher education if they graduated at all. No matter how much money they make, the effects of growing up like that cannot be taken out of them. This is not to say we should give them a pass.

No, absolutely not, but I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging where they come from and how that has impacted them, and why these are not the type of people we should look to as role models. Not unless they take on that responsibility, be it intentionally or by burden of example.

More to the point, regarding this thread: Mayweather's failures as human being - and he has many - are worthy of scorn and condemnation. They have little to do, however, with his boxing ability, and I think in the interest of discussing an upcoming bout, we should leave them out of this thread, because nothing worthwhile will come out of discussing them.
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Fair enough.
 
Ikuu said:
Conor has shitty cardio and if Floyd is lighting him up and he's landing nothing, him quitting on the stool is far more likely than you're suggesting.
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Syder said:
You're right. Most UFC fighters' cardio sucks by the time they get to a fight.

I predict Conor is sucking in air and struggling to keep his hands up by Round 4.
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Hmmmm......hard to know....Conor never went past round 3 when he was fighting at 145/155. Last I checked this boxing match is at 154 and not 170. Conor did have some cardio problems when he jumped from 145 to 170 and fighting a bigger guy.
 
lightskintwin said:
It's almost as if Connor McGregor isn't a boxer, yet alone a world class boxer with years of experience and yet you're judging Connor's ability to not get KO'd by Floyd on the performances of World Class Boxers, a significant amount of them Champions or Top Contenders, that Floyd has faced.

It's almost as if MMA is a different sport to Boxing.
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People need to stop acting like he's going from basketball to baseball or something. This is more like going from F1 to Indycar. There's a racer who has been quite successful at doing just that this year.
 
polyh3dron said:
People need to stop acting like he's going from basketball to baseball or something. This is more like going from F1 to Indycar. There's a racer who has been quite successful at doing just that this year.
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Boxing and MMA are completely different sports. It's like thinking a soccer player would automatically do great in ice hockey and vice versa because they're essentially going up and down a field/rink in order to score a goal in front of a goalie.
 
Obliterator said:
Conor is a top fighter though. Its disingenuous by the Boxing community to suddenly pretend like this is some nobody who doesn't know anything about fighting. A big part of that comes from a lot of the boxing community having seen none of his fights and knowing nothing really about MMA other than on an ultra casual level.

Conor is going to go in there and get schooled, possibly even finished in the later rounds. But this isn't some brand new experience to him. The man is used to being kicked, punched, kneed, elbowed, having fighters on top of him on the ground throwing punches at his skull, and being choked.

Fighting Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match of all things is hardly anything scarier than what he's gone through in training in his own gym. Him getting destroyed by Floyd in boxing doesn't change anything on that. The idea he's just gonna quit on the stool seems very very very far fetched.
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Very very far fetched? Not really. Once you're dead tired and lose all confidence in winning after being thoroughly outclassed, then you look up at the ring card girl and see there's another 6 rounds of this to go, declining to come out for the next round becomes more and more tempting.

Conor's pretty tough, but he's not above panic or quitting. Some guys, usually less skilled fighters who rely on heart, will keep throwing till they get dropped, even in the worst situations. He's not one of them. Diaz made him shoot for a takedown, roll over, and tap quick in their first fight. Then in the rematch, Conor got on his bike a lot to preserve himself. Literally jogging away from Diaz and constantly checking the clock. He's more of a thinker than a warrior type.
 
Syder said:
You're right. Most UFC fighters' cardio sucks by the time they get to a fight.

I predict Conor is sucking in air and struggling to keep his hands up by Round 4.
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Having cardio for boxing is much easier than having cardio for MMA

He is dealing with three minutes rounds with breaks instead of five minute rounds where he also has to deal with kicks and grappling.

Cardio is not his strong suit but he will find it a walk in the park to be conditioned for a boxing match compared to an MMA fight.
 
Chuck Norris said:
Having cardio for boxing is much easier than having cardio for MMA

He is dealing with three minutes rounds with breaks instead of five minute rounds where he also has to deal with kicks and grappling.

Cardio is not his strong suit but he will find it a walk in the park to be conditioned for a boxing match compared to an MMA fight.
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Your posts get more ridiculous every day. Can't wait where you end up before the fight gets here.

But I know Floyd might not break a sweat. Facing a counter puncher with amateur skills, who throws 50 % less punches per round that Floyd is used to. Sounds like a recipe for success. "But he punches so hard!"
 
lightskintwin said:
The only thing Connor has on his side is Mayweather is 40, and like somebody said the pressure will be all on Floyd and not on Connor. The thing when you're fighting father time is your body can all of sudden fall apart on you. So Floyd is definitely taking a risk in that department, because I've seen boxers look good in one fight and in the next look completely old.
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Watch Pavlik vs Hopkins and tell me about father time when you see a boxer in his 40's have his way with a champ in his mid 20's.

Father time doesn't mean shit in boxing, there are countless examples where legit good boxers that fight in their 40's and beyond are successful against younger experienced fighters.

Yet here we are talking about the greatest defensive boxer of our time who has barely taken damage throughout his career, that has never had a cardio issue, that takes boxing as serious no one else... be possibly beat by a dude that couldn't knock out Nate Diaz.
 
bonchooski said:
Yet here we are talking about the greatest defensive boxer of our time who has barely taken damage throughout his career, that has never had a cardio issue, that takes boxing as serious no one else... be possibly beat by a dude that couldn't knock out Nate Diaz.
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You make it sound like Nate was getting knocked out by everyone, except Conor. Nate has never been knocked out in his entire career of 32 MMA fights in 13 years. TKO yes, just once, KO's, no, never.
 
gogogow said:
You make it sound like Nate was getting knocked out by everyone, except Conor. Nate has never been knocked out in his entire career of 32 MMA fights in 13 years. TKO yes, just once, KO's, no, never.
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I was referring to the lack of defense that Nate has when it comes to his fights. McGregor couldn't knock out a dude that doesn't care how much he gets hit, yet people think he'll KO a defensive wizard in Mayweather.
 
bonchooski said:
Watch Pavlik vs Hopkins and tell me about father time when you see a boxer in his 40's have his way with a champ in his mid 20's.

Father time doesn't mean shit in boxing, there are countless examples where legit good boxers that fight in their 40's and beyond are successful against younger experienced fighters.

Yet here we are talking about the greatest defensive boxer of our time who has barely taken damage throughout his career, that has never had a cardio issue, that takes boxing as serious no one else... be possibly beat by a dude that couldn't knock out Nate Diaz.
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You literally took the one exception and used it as an example of the rule. LOL Hopkins is an Alien, hence the reason he changed his name to that, however even Hopkins kept playing with Father Time himself and got knocked outside the ring by a much lesser fighter to end his career.
 
lightskintwin said:
You literally took the one exception and used it as an example of the rule. LOL Hopkins is an Alien, hence the reason he changed his name to that, however even Hopkins kept playing with Father Time himself and got knocked outside the ring by a much lesser fighter to end his career.
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Dude was in his 50's when that happened. He fought very well in his 40's against reputable opponents as well as other fighters in their 40's have. Hell I can bring up George Foreman too.

The point I was making is that a boxer in his 40's can be more competitive than an mma fighter. To say that being 40 is a disadvantage for a boxer fighting someone that hasn't had a professional boxing match in their lifetime is just bullshit. Let alone someone like Mayweather who's never been in danger (save for a few moments against Moseley) his whole career.
 
bonchooski said:
Dude was in his 50's when that happened. He fought very well in his 40's against reputable opponents as well as other fighters in their 40's have. Hell I can bring up George Foreman too.

The point I was making is that a boxer in his 40's can be more competitive than an mma fighter. To say that being 40 is a disadvantage for a boxer fighting someone that hasn't had a professional boxing match in their lifetime is just bullshit. Let alone someone like Mayweather who's never been in danger (save for a few moments against Moseley) his whole career.
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Heavyweight boxers are notorious for being able to fight much older than lighter weight fighters.

I know what age Hopkins was, my point is he kept playing with Father time. However to use him as an example is silly because he's an exception not the rule.

I never said Mayweather would be at a disadvantage, I said age is really the only chance Conor has against Mayweather. Even if that chance is .00001 percent, it's still better than no chance.

The older you get and the natural deterioration of aging, coupled with the wear and tear of decades of training and fighting, and you just don't know when your body is going to fall apart. Obviously it differs per fighter, but the longer you keep testing Father time, the sooner the odds will go in his favor, instead of yours.
 
bonchooski said:
That saying only applies when a boxers skills have shown an obvious decline and yet they continue to fight. Mayweather isn't that dude.
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I'm specifically speaking about physical aging and we haven't seen him fight in 2 years and now he's 40. I highly doubt this will be the case here, but I've seen older fighters look good in their last fight, take a break and their next fight they look OLD, and can't pull the trigger anymore or.... they look good but their body inexplicably breaksdown on them and they suffer some freak injury that causes them to lose because they can't continue.
 
lightskintwin said:
I'm specifically speaking about physical aging and we haven't seen him fight in 2 years and now he's 40. I highly doubt this will be the case here, but I've seen older fighters look good in their last fight, take a break and their next fight they look OLD, and can't pull the trigger anymore or.... they look good but their body inexplicably breaksdown on them and they suffer some freak injury that causes them to lose because they can't continue.
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So you say with the possibility of all of this that someone who's never had a professional boxing fight still has a chance?
 
bonchooski said:
So you say with the possibility of all of this that someone who's never had a professional boxing fight still has a chance?
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Looks like he's just stating the obvious that age is a factor in combat sports. All sports actually, but especially this.

Having said that, you could age Floyd to 50 and he'd probably still win this fight handily.
 
bonchooski said:
So you say with the possibility of all of this that someone who's never had a professional boxing fight still has a chance?
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LOL Obviously conventional wisdom is that Floyd completely dominates Conor and embarrasses him for even stepping in the ring, which I believe is the logical outcome. I don't see Conor making it for the full 12 rounds. I think Floyd plans to make an example out of Conor.

However anybody who steps in the ring has a chance, no matter how remote it is because you just never know what can happen. For instance, Conor and Floyd could have an accidental head butt due to how awkward Conor is fighting and how awful their styles are clashing against each other which causes a cut above Floyd's eye, and Floyd not being able to see for a second, and Conor throwing some hail mary haymaker that catches Floyd flush, due to Floyd not being able to see clearly and his reflexes being tenths of a second slower because he's 40 years old and consequently gets knocked out cold. Far fetched? Sure. But you just never know.
 
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