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Doctor Who: Jodie Whittaker announced as the 13th Doctor!

Bobby Roberts said:
This absolutely needs to happen, and I feel like Chibnall will put in the work to get that done more than Moffat would.
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Yeah. I imagine it'll happen considering Chib's history with Captain Jack (though Moffat sort of has one too to be fair?), but I'll still be bummed it never happened with Smith and Capaldi. I really thought they'd keep bringing Barrowman back at least once per new Doctor, RTD pretty much set it up with Jack's immortal but slowly aging thing.
 
StopMakingSense said:
Ew. Gracepoint was so blahhhhhh. And the twist they did at the end to change if from Broadchurch was just terrible.
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When that was about to start airing I knew it was something my sister would be interested in. I told her "you probably don't want to bother with this show. Watch Broadchurch instead." She didn't listen and watched Gracepoint and complained about the ending and said it made her not want to watch Broadchurch. Some people just can't be helped.
 
MaKTaiL said:
Now that we are finally on female territory, I want her to be the Doctor someday:

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She could pull off Doctors 14 - 99 easily.
 
blly155 said:
i've always thought that making the master a female was them testing the waters for/warming people up to a female doctor.
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For as much flak as Moffat gets for how he writes women (some of which is deserved imo, others -- like "Moffat is a rampant misogynist" -- are pretty overblown), he has ironically done more to lay the groundwork for a general audience acceptance of female Doctor than anyone before him. He's spent his last three finales on it!

funkystudent said:
If I remember correctly a few women where in the short list for 12 but they went with Capaldi and TBH I cant blame them. You dont get a actor of that caliber, who was also a life long fan often so yeah.
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There was no shortlist for 12. Moffat only wanted Capaldi and Capaldi was the only actor who auditioned for it.
 
Joqu said:
Yeah. I imagine it'll happen considering Chib's history with Captain Jack (though Moffat sort of has one too to be fair?), but I'll still be bummed it never happened with Smith and Capaldi. I really thought they'd keep bringing Barrowman back at least once per new Doctor, RTD pretty much set it up with Jack's immortal but slowly aging thing.
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I thought Moffat created Jack Harkness

Which is why it's weird he never used him again. I also think the character would've been out of place with the more "serious" Who under Moffat anyway.

And yes Torchwood was "serious", but moreso in a dumb way
 
Kalor said:
This might bring me back. I fell off during the smith era.
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The Smith era put me to sleep, but I got through it. For some of the shitty writing during Tennant's time, I enjoyed the him as the Doctor and his companions more. I started on Capaldi, but it felt like more of the same and I couldn't be bothered.

I guess if I'm picking it up again, I need to marathon Capaldi's seasons though.

I hope the companion is a woman as well, I know plenty of people that would be so pleased with that.
 
paradox121 said:
Hearing that she's mates with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant already makes me want a Five Doctors v.2 with them plus Capaldi. I see her skewing more to the restrained 9+12 and letting 10+11 goof off like children.

Now the long wait to see who the companion is. Genuinely don't know whether they'll go male or female. If it was a male it would probably have to be someone fairly young. A male Rose basically.

Rigsy from S8/9 would've been perfect come to think of it.
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Colin Baker has been applauding this and mocking the trolls on twitter too, so why stop there?
 
If the Dr Who movie and Torchwood series 4 have taught me anything, its keep BBC America the fuck away from anything Dr Who related
 
I'm thinking she's going to have 2 companions, one male and one female to ease the fanbase into the idea, with the female companion being killed off/leaving after the first season so that the status quo changes, but not too suddenly
 
rSpooky said:
Jesus Christ.. See this is why things are so intolerable. I did not state anything as fact, said I would give it a chance, just that it felt a certain way. I did not state that this feeling is justified or not , just that it is how I feel about it. But hey .. don't let that stop you attacking me anyway.
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Attack?

I merely pointed out that you already feel she's forced based on absolutely nothing.

That's not an attack that's a critique.
 
rSpooky said:
I would lie if I said I was not disappointed in the direction. Not that I have a valid reason beyond it has always been this way. It just feels little forced to me. That said I was not liking the Capaldi series much anyway so perhaps the writing will pick up . I will give it a shot. My daughters are happy at least. lol
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Yeah give it a shot man! Maybe you'll be surprised!

You never know :)
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
That's the problem I have with the whole thing. Despite the regeneration there is a sense of continuity with the character that underlies each variation in personality. Some actors are better than others in recognising that, with Matt Smith being especially convincing in conveying the weight of history that the Doctor carries with him.

If those elements can be continued then I have no problem with it. But "shattering the mould"? No...
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Visual mold.
 
louiedog said:
Did BBCA have anything to do with either of those?
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Nah. But Eight's TV-Movie was a Fox co-production, and Miracle Day was a co-production with Starz.

I think the suggestion is that American hands on the Doctor Who universe is a bad call.

(Miracle Day is the worst Doctor Who-related thing I've ever seen, but I dont' know if that's really due to American involvement)
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Nah. But Eight's TV-Movie was a Fox co-production, and Miracle Day was a co-production with Starz.

I think the suggestion is that American hands on the Doctor Who universe is a bad call.

(Miracle Day is the worst Doctor Who-related thing I've ever seen, but I dont' know if that's really due to American involvement)
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Children of Earth is so good and Miracle Day comes along and it's one of the worst things ever.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Nah. But Eight's TV-Movie was a Fox co-production, and Miracle Day was a co-production with Starz.

I think the suggestion is that American hands on the Doctor Who universe is a bad call.

(Miracle Day is the worst Doctor Who-related thing I've ever seen, but I dont' know if that's really due to American involvement)
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Yeah. It's hard to know who to blame there, but there is a lot of blame to go around. Children of Men was god tier.
 
PowderedToast said:
capaldi felt like the absolute end of where you could take the character as a male. a brilliant actor, probably the best man the show will get in terms of the respect he garners, raw talent and experience

not to mention to swell of cultural opinion that was demanding the change. she's a fabulous actor with so much more to give. this is the thing, so many minorities and women NEVER get the chance to have a meaty role and show their range. whittaker will blow people away.

also the show has always had problems with consistency. people remember tennant fondly but he had just as many if not more wonky episodes. but around 2010-2013, standards in TV changed drastically and its flaws became more exposed. and of course there was a change in how moffat handled arcs and accessibility.

on the other hand, find me another show that's more eclectic in tone and genre. it's the nature of it.
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That's a really good way to put it. Not that another white male couldn't have been perfectly fine, but as you say having someone like Capaldi blow everything away acting-wise, there didn't seem anywhere else you could go with that 'breed' of Doctor.

Which isn't to say casting a woman is a gimmick or ploy, it's just a new way to spin the show and the character. It opens new story possibilities and massively changes the dynamic of the central pairing. Having a woman almost demands that writers take notice again. I'm not as negative about the quality of the writing as some, but its Series 10 of a rebooted version of a 54 year old show that has almost universally had a lead man and a secondary female. Making the Doctor old and bristly changed things slightly, but this completely reworks the framework of things.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Nah. But Eight's TV-Movie was a Fox co-production, and Miracle Day was a co-production with Starz.

I think the suggestion is that American hands on the Doctor Who universe is a bad call.

(Miracle Day is the worst Doctor Who-related thing I've ever seen, but I dont' know if that's really due to American involvement)
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LordRaptor said:
they were both British / American co-productions done via BBC Worldwide.
Like Orphan Black is.
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I know these things but I don't know why that means no one in all of America, a giant exporter of quality entertainment (and, sure, lots of absolute shit), could do anything good on it. Especially when the specific named entity had no involvement.

My biggest beef with BBCA is they seemed to have really turned down the Doctor Who marathons around Christmas and turned Top Gear way up which makes my holidays less enjoyable.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Nah. But Eight's TV-Movie was a Fox co-production, and Miracle Day was a co-production with Starz.

I think the suggestion is that American hands on the Doctor Who universe is a bad call.

(Miracle Day is the worst Doctor Who-related thing I've ever seen, but I dont' know if that's really due to American involvement)
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Eh, the American involvement has its plusses and minuses.

Plus: the guest cast, the increased budget, more episodes
Minus: the main cast, what they did with that budget, more episodes
 
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