Damn, seems like a pointless change that at the same time kinda ruins it.
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Doctor Who: Jodie Whittaker announced as the 13th Doctor!
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Damn, seems like a pointless change that at the same time kinda ruins it.
TheSkullPrince
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You can get pretty much all currently available classic Who on Britbox.
You can get most of new Who (in the US) via Amazon Prime.
The most current Xmas special and season are currently only sold separately (not part of the streaming sub).
BBC America broadcasts new Who in the US.
Ignore the millennials and their fear of anything old.
Classic Who rocks just as much as new Who (and they're all in the same continuity).
Thank you for the detailed info. I think I'll start with the 2005 series, and if I really like it then I might go back.
True up until Capaldi.
Nothing against the actor, it's just not the vibe I want from doctor who. It never worked IMO.
Yo watching that trailer though I'm super fucking excited for this new doctor, I never actually thought they'd go with a woman, just pay it lipservice every once in a while and stick with white men. I'll def be tuning in to see how it plays out. Capaldi plus this announcement has straight broken that cycle.
Just be warned that the season is loaded with shit episodes and has no production budget compared to the rest of the series.
Amazon Prime in the US.
Netflix in the UK.
If you're in another country, post your location and someone can probably help.
It was the "don't let anyone tell you otherwise" comment that caught my attention.
I would say that the new Who start in 2005 is an easy place to start, but if someone is really interested there are a selection of classic titles that really establish the character and give added weight to the 2005 kickoff.
Absolutely necessary? No. You can skip them.
Enjoyable and worth it if you track them down? Hell yes.
This is the thing: The show has always been pushing boundaries, both in front of the cameras and behind it - lest we forget that the first showrunner was female, the first director was gay. The whole ethos of the show is firmly in favour of this step, perhaps the only surprise being that it's taken this long!
And yet... there are fans of the show who don't see that
DrForester
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We need a poll.
When the Doctor regenerates, does she...
Reach for her crotch
Reach for her chest
When the Doctor regenerates, does she...
Reach for her crotch
Reach for her chest
That line was a reference to people recommending that newcomers jump straight onto the Matt Smith era, often after trashing the previous seasons. (I still think RTD's episode-to-episode writing as a whole surpasses Moffat's, although both obviously have their low points)
Wasn't intended for Classic Who.
TheSkullPrince
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Oh ok, so it's sort of like a good show where the beginning is kinda rough but picks up in quality. Thanks for the heads-up.
If Chibnall has any sense, neither.
why not both gif
Just mimic Smith's "I'm a girl!?" moment from the hair.
It's person to person, but I thought the dialogue in the original series was really good. So much so that it's one of the few seasons I rewatch. Far from perfect, although the low-budget (it was expected to possibly be a one-off if the revival failed) helps in that there's slightly less focus on CGI and monsters.
And it helps if you go in imagining that the Doctor has PTSD. Which he sorta does because of the events that came before. I think a lot of viewers are turned off by his initial abrasiveness.
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Is Chibnall doing the Christmas Special, or is it Moffat's last hurrah?
Series 1 in 2005. It's fun/entertaining throughout, but has some rough spots/cheap special effects.
If you can watch old 90s kids TV shows and not cringe you'll be fine. The back half of series 1 starts getting better and it generally improves from there all the way through series 5.
You probably owe it to yourself to try Series 5 if for some reason you gag reflex on the first episode.
It's on Amazon Prime. I would watch out because they have some of the specials for Christmas/etc listed separately.
Also a lot of the mini-episodes are really fun and worth checking out, especially in Series 5-7. But there's not many of those until Season 5 (you can skip the Tardisodes/interactive games, etc).
fluffydelusions
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Tennant was still my favorite so far but I will check out this new Doctor for sure.
They seem to be following End of Time where RTD wrote everything up to Tennant regenerating and then everything with Smith was Moffat.
Yeah.
We were cool with it in 2005, but it was a kind of a toe-dipping on the part of BBC and it took some time to get better. I've shown it to a few people and they were less than enthused through the start and were surprised to find themselves so invested by Season 3.
CloudyTuba
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Haha, that's wonderful. From this point on I must refer to her as the 13th Clooney.
As you can see, fans are very opinionated about this. However they say that from the point of view of existing fans defending their interest. I have to say that Series 1 was the season that convinced me to avoid the show for many years until a friend begged me to come back and give the show a second shot. I know a few people who felt exactly the same.
Series 1 (2005), series 5 (2010) and probably series 11 (upcoming 2018) are the jumping on points for new fans. When I came back to give it another shot I was watching primarily David Tennant's tenure. It wasn't until I had already become a fan of the show and become acclimated to its antics that I was able to go back and enjoy series 1. I do like it now, but I don't want to bullshit you just because I like it, it can get rough for a newcomer.
What I tell most people is that they should indeed try starting with series 1. If you're into it, great. Keep going. It does get better. However if you find yourself having a lot of difficulty to the point that you might abandon ship, skip ahead to series 5 and go back once you get acclimated.
I loved Capaldi because he felt like the return of Pertwee. And given that Pertwee was my fav of the classic Doctors, it was like a return to form.
The Doctor should be slightly weird and a bit standoffish. He's helpful, friendly, and creative, but he's not always the best at social norms.
You can always remind them, Joanna Lumley did it first.
MilkyJoe
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plagiarize
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Neither. Moffat isn't writing it.
Baroquemantic
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Oh nice. As someone who hasn't seen much of this show, what exactly is the doctor? I didn't know they could be male or female. Can the doctor be pretty much anything?
Vulcano's assistant
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Karl Pilkington companion plz
Better yet. Make him not from modern times.
Karl Pilkington as the court buffon from the 10th century. Karl Pilkington the caveman.
Ah, yes. In that case I agree. If you're starting with new Who, then start with 2005.
Especially given the ease of access via streaming and binge watching.
I was thinking more along the lines of understanding the Doctor's character, as well as (by way of example) the impact of Sarah Jane Smith returning.
For someone who has only seen new Who, SJS and K9 must seem out-of-place. For fans who have seen the older shows, the reappearance (and commentary on what happens AFTER the Doctor leaves) was great.
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Yes. I wouldn't be as excited about a woman if he was writing her. Chibbers just delivered a season of TV stacked with well written female characters with the last season of Broadchurch.
CloudyTuba
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The Doctor is a member of an alien species that appears human. Their species has a special ability that when their body dies, a process called "regeneration" kicks in that basically gives them a whole new one. It's sort of a genetic randomizer though so the result could be anyone. The nature/nurture aspect means that it usually results in a bit of a personality change for each new incarnation.
It was a clever way to write recasting into the plot which has allowed it to continue running much longer than your average show.
It's a bigger behind-the-scenes refresh than in 2010. Combined with Jodie, well, interesting times ahead for this show... and not before time.
Doctor Who has always been reflective of popular culture, and Moffat's run feeling like some sort of Star Wars/Twilight/Time Traveler's Wife mishmash isn't exactly a coincidence. I loved the Eleventh Hour, but almost everything after just lost me. One audience for another, more or less.
EDIT: Honestly, more like following the trends that captivated its intended audience. Someone always gets left behind, it can't be helped.
The Doctor is an incredibly smart, 1000+ year old alien with a biological function that allows him to heal/change his body when he is mortally wounded.
He can only be humanoid, because that's what his race is. Other than that, it's theoretically open for him/her.
This is amazing
In a nutshell:
- Alien species that has mastered Time Travel.
- Humanoid.
- Two hearts.
- Very smart.
- Sarcastic.
- Eccentric.
- Chaotic Good alignment.
- When the body is near death, a massive energy release allows it to regenerate into a new body.
- Doctor is an outcast among his people for breaking their "no interference, only observation" law.
excelsiorlef
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Ha ha ha <3
Baroquemantic
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I guess I don't remember my TARDIS key lore here, but either way it's the effect I dislike here. Seems a little showy for a key.
Hah, no worries, I do it all the time. Not sure I agree though, the Paternoster Gang is just as goofy as Jack if you ask me.
Response from The Beaverton (Canada's equivalent of The Onion)
To appease male fans, Doctor Who announces every Dalek will have visible penis
LONDON – After severe backlash from male fans following the casting of Jodie Whittaker as the first-ever female Doctor, the producers of Doctor Who have announced that every single Dalek in the new series will have a penis and testicles visible at all times.
"We thought people would be excited by Jodie because she's such an accomplished actress," said showrunner Chris Chibnall. "But the fans have spoken: good sci-fi needs dicks and balls, apparently."
Daleks are one of the main villains of the Doctor Who universe, first appearing in 1963. While the show creators never explicitly stated the sex of these small robots, the addition of male anatomy to their heads has been met with excitement.
"I was angry because a female Doctor made no sense. I mean, how am I supposed to connect emotionally to a non-male character?" said longtime fan Curtis Mayflower. "But with this change, the belligerent robots who display inexplicable fear of and rage towards the Doctor are now strangely relatable."
However, others see in these penises another push for unnecessary inclusiveness.
"Oh sure, you think the show runners are standing up for tradition," said longtime fan Kyle Marcus. "But one of those Daleks had a black penis. We all know Daleks are white. It's canon!"
This is reminiscent of male outrage over Ghostbusters, which lead to the release of an alternate cut where Slimer is fully erect for the entire film.
There's actually a short story, probably from one of the Time Trips or Decalogues, where in Sarah Jane Smith is shown having a difficult life after having left the Doctor (and very abruptly). She eventually gets over him, moving on and more capable than before.
I'm sad that it was retconned. Almost everything was, really.
Oooh, so it was good? I liked the first series a lot but two just sounded so disappointing I never bothered.
Three. Don't forget David Bradley!
Haha, that's a hilariously stupid change, it takes all of the sting that the original series had. I got like 2 episodes into the American version and tapped out, I'm glad I didn't stick with it.
The reveal in Broadchurch is legit one of the best done in TV history.
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Yeah. A real return to form.