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House GOP may pass Senate's "skinny repeal" outright. CALL YOUR SENATORS.
- Thread starter Jordan117
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50. They're passing this through reconciliation. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
Murkowski is probably going to flip, if so.
Ok, are they gunna put up the count for the actual vote?
As already explained many times, the bill has been reworked to squeak by reconciliation apparently.
smokeandmirrors
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jack_package_200
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Please let this shit die
I refuse to believe it.
If Murkowski really does flip, it's more theater.
Velcro Fly
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I feel gross that I can read that in his voice in my mind
Not happening. McCain voted along party lines on the committee vote so why wouldn't he on the repeal
SomewhatGroovy
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If we get Dems in Congress next year, can we reverse this damage?
Glitchesarecool
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Trump would have to sign off on it.
Doubt it. There's going to be a lot of damage that is permanent.
Nope. There's no majority they could get that would be able to undo this.
Yeah, that was the biggest issue, but they apparently worked around it quite a bit to make it work. PP still takes a hit, but not nearly as substantial
Trump will veto. Need both houses to be Dem + pres in 2020.
Arrogant Bastard
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There was a horse trade for McCain/Murkowski.
No Dem is touching healthcare for the foreseeable future.
Clinton care and Obamacare landed the two largest R pickups in the nation's history.
We won't get this back.
We would have to start from scratch
No. We'd need enough seats to override the President's Veto which really can't happen.
Inyourprime
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McCain vote against his party? LOL
No, the rage this will cause will lead to public option or Medicare for All.
Fox Mulder
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Arrogant Bastard
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Not a chance. We would have to do 2008 all over again; i.e. flip both houses and get the POTUS. Even then you think democrats are ever going to touch this shit again. They got fucked for it for what exactly? To have healthcare for five+ years.
Square One.
I love your optimism. But this is a country that just elected a rapist and racist piece of shit.
Leeroy3101
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Murkowski voted no against sending this to committee. She joins McCain and Collins.
SomewhatGroovy
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I live like you, with four people I feed. If I can't take care of them, I have to bail from this continent. My self employment and ability to remain so hinges on this.
Couldn't disagree more.
This will be the attack point for the party and if they do get back into party, will at least try to get single payer through.
TumblingHippo
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I have doubts this will cause any substantial rage, but I'd love for the apathetic American public to prove me wrong.
smokeandmirrors
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And the fact that this is the case means this country is irredeemable
I think the most efffective way for Blue America to wage war against Red America would be a general pullback in personal spending. Even the mildest of recessions freaks voters, stock watchers, corporations, etc out, to the point where the party in power gets the blame. The GDP going even a little bit negative over a few quarters is enough to really shake things up; too many entities in our economic system are addicted to endless growth.
Morally I don't think they can let this slide. If ACA stood, they could've done some quick fixes. If ACA gets blown up, they have to put a new system in place. Dems WILL be running on Healthcare for the foreseeable future.
John Rabbit
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I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Jeff Flake is a shitheel piece of trash.
Doc Holliday
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Being a rapist and a racist doesn't affect their medical bills.
Let's see what happens when they see their premiums go up
Arrogant Bastard
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Less than, no Democrat in their right mind would campaign or vote for anything like this again.
Which would then be neutered in court and overturned 8 years later.
Maybe in 30 years we can try again.
This vote doesn't matter. It's the next one that does.
Its only like the first or second top issue to Americans. You are wrong.
He knows he has a election next year but AZ is red, maybe loosening but so many fucking assholes are moving here.
We couldn't get a public option 8 years ago with a supermajority in the Senate. Single payer is a pipe dream in the US.
I was a true believer in my 20s. I've grown older and more realistic about where our country is.
Not gonna happen. The only time dems pick up like they did in '08 is a shitty R president & a recession. Plus, unlike Obamacare, a public option would face heavy lobbying against it and republicans would repeal it anyways, because they don't give a shit about making people uninsured.