Dark Souls Mafia |OT| Git Gud or Die Trying

Verelios said:
That plays a little to close into 'All those against me shall DIE' territory for me Monkey.

And by that, I'm asking if you're automatically scum reading people who disagree?
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Nope. I'm actually just agreeing, in kind of a bitchy way, that auto-scumreading, while possibly a kneejerk reaction, is probably not terribly productive.

This game is different. People are gonna say different stuff. We have to adapt and roll with it.
 
Though, since I can't edit - Vere, why call only me out and not ask Fireblend the same, when it's essentially the same position?
 
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

CornBurrito (2)
Christina Mackenzie 134
flatearthpandas 182

isaacnukem (1)
Lord of Castamere 96

flatearthpandas (1)
kitsunelaine 110

nin1000 (1)
StanleyPalmtree 185

kitsunelaine (1)
hey_monkey 245

Verelios (1)
Burbeting 67

Christina Mackenzie (1)
CornBurrito 89

Burbeting (0): Sawneeks 44 130

StanleyPalmtree (0): flatearthpandas 150 182

No active vote for Day 1: Fireblend, isaacnukem, Muffin1611, nin1000, oreomunsta, rac, Sawneeks (has previously voted), Trigger, Verelios

Day 1 Postcount: Burbeting 13, Christina Mackenzie 11, CornBurrito 8, Fireblend 2, flatearthpandas 19, hey_monkey 28, isaacnukem 8, kitsunelaine 15, Lord of Castamere 5, Muffin1611 10, nin1000 31, oreomunsta 11, rac 3, Sawneeks 17, StanleyPalmtree 9, Trigger 6, Verelios 10


Day 1 ends:
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9 votes for majority
 
hey_monkey said:
Though, since I can't edit - Vere, why call only me out and not ask Fireblend the same, when it's essentially the same position?
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Because he just dropped a note that he'd be busy and would only come around tomorrow. It's not like I was intentionally singling you out, that mentality just seemed weird and you were likely to answer.
 
StanleyPalmtree said:
that was the joke
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I liked it.

nin1000 said:
Did she tell you to respond for her ?
Don't take it the wrong way but I don't really am a fan of people responding for others.
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Yes, but it was quite obvious. I'm not a fan of filler questions to look active. Look, we all have opinions! They're often NAI.

But I'd even go beyond what the bear said - I didn't just imply, I specifically said why is this just about me when it probably shouldn't be?
 
rac said:
monkey, you alright with kits being lynched today?
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Eh, I dunno who should be tossed into the volcano's depths just yet. Everyone's pretty equal, which I guess makes her as good a vote as anyone right now. We'll see what the day brings.
 
Verelios said:
You've been really strange today Nin, like you're dropping in lines between lines to seem active.

What's going on bro?
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What's extra weird about this is that I town read it because I can't see scum starting off with such a clear LYNCH MY ASS position, but if this is new nin, I just dunno.
 
So, already a bit outdated, but:
Day 1 Postcount: Burbeting 13, Christina Mackenzie 11, CornBurrito 8, Fireblend 2, flatearthpandas 19, hey_monkey 28, isaacnukem 8, kitsunelaine 15, Lord of Castamere 5, Muffin1611 10, nin1000 31, oreomunsta 11, rac 3, Sawneeks 17, StanleyPalmtree 9, Trigger 6, Verelios 10
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So are any of these people new? I don't know LoC or CM, but I got the sense they weren't new?

rac and Trigger I don't expect to be high volume posters, so their numbers don't seem alignment indicative. Muffin is leaning into filler but that seems like holdover newbie stuff, NAI. nin is doing some kind of bit but it doesn't seem scummy.

The thing about Sawneeks is that I've only played with Sawneeks when she's scum (twice) and these big posts and lots of discussion generation is how she functions as scum. It reads as town. But is it? Anyone who's played with her as town want to weigh in? We should watch her content carefully, I think.

Wondering when Fireblend will carve out some time for the phase.
 
flatearthpandas said:
Actually, we have only four lynch attempts before we get into a sticky situation. So we basically trade +1 day and better info on flips for -1 lynch. Assuming worst case scenario for town in both cases.

I'm still in favor of the no lynches for a while, but would prefer to shelve it until tomorrow at this point.

So.. who to lynch today?
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guess it's not just corn who can't do math around here >.>


oops.

hey_monkey said:
Apparently I'm gonna explain the same thing several times, but when other topics of discussion arise, we'll talk about those. That is to say: hard to predict at this time, because not sure what's going to happen. Don't mean to give a nonanswer, but it's difficult to plan for a d1.
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What I meant was: what are you going to do to facilitate that?

hey_monkey said:
So are any of these people new? I don't know LoC or CM, but I got the sense they weren't new?
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LoC and CM are old guard, they've been here off and on for a really long time. Think it's been a while since either have played though.
 
also for some of them sick Day 1 hot takes

I like Nin so far, wouldn't want him lynched despite all the shade falling his way right now.

I've been back and forth on Monkey a bit because early on her flip-flopping answers about lynch v. no lynch almost felt like she was simply trying to please whoever she was talking to. However, I can also see that as her simply being really uncertain as to how to proceed this game but it's something I noted.

Don't like Burb. Mostly mechanics talk and not much else reminds me of a certain Scum game we were both in and he's fitting all the check boxes right now.

Everyone else is mostly a whole lotta nothin. I don't see the hardliners of Lynch v. No Lynch as scummy or not since most can somewhat back up their thoughts ( except for Oreo's which i still don't understand ) and that's really it. Seeing the roster before the game started it already looked like this would be a quieter game so I'm not terribly shocked with how slow it is right now. Hopefully we can start drumming some stuff up before we just scramble at Day End and cause a mess.
 
Right now I would want to lynch dead weight on D1. The day has been fairly quiet, and I suspect some players could turn into meat shield for scum to hide in (assuming they are town) by being not very contributive as a whole.

I don't have much in terms of reads because whole bunch of nothing has happened. Nin is being nin, aggressive without much substance. Sawneeks is making points to seem helpful without really doing much anything, same thing she does as scum. Monkey seems helpful in a more sincere way, but I haven't seen her scum game yet to make comparisons.
 
Vote: Oreomunsta

Because I also want more of an answer to FEP's assertion here since I agree, it doesn't make sense. Would like some elaboration please :x
 
I read Nin as slightly scummy tbh. Seems to post for the sake of posting to me. Asking me why I should be kept is rather pointless because 1) it's coming from me and 2) even if it came from me, nothing of note that I could give as reason has happened yet.
Just looks like he's jumping on every little mini-discussion to me.

Could of course be just how nin plays, I dunno. The half game I played with nin he was rather inactive, so I can't judge that.

Especially Monkey seems to put the most effort in so far, which I like. People who keep the discussion rolling in an (to me) honest fashion are needed.
 
Burbeting said:
Right now I would want to lynch dead weight on D1. The day has been fairly quiet, and I suspect some players could turn into meat shield for scum to hide in (assuming they are town) by being not very contributive as a whole.

I don't have much in terms of reads because whole bunch of nothing has happened. Nin is being nin, aggressive without much substance. Sawneeks is making points to seem helpful without really doing much anything, same thing she does as scum. Monkey seems helpful in a more sincere way, but I haven't seen her scum game yet to make comparisons.
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#Scummoning

Also I'm pretty sure at this point if I breathe people will find it scummy.

And to address the first part of your post, who are you seeing as dead weight right now and why.
 
Right now I don't think Verelios has potential of turning into dead weight later, if nothing else, he is usually around even as a scum.

unvote

When I say dead weight, I mean something scum can use to divert the attention from themselves by there being players in late game for town to do lazy mislynches on. For example, the lynch on StarSketch in love boat 2 was kinda like that - a vote on a pair of players who were lynched on weak arguments, but were done so anyway because it was easy for the scum to divert the lynch there. Dead weight also fits one of the scum profiles of a player who is scared of posting much, but is just mostly there.

So using a patented bear-bean-machine, I have a list of players I wouldn't mind lynching today:

5. [m] isaacnukem
7. [f] kitsunelaine
8. [m] Trigger
9. [m] oreomunsta
17. [m] rac

I was kind of considering adding Fireblend and nin there, but Fire does usually post semi-actively, although he has bad case of blending in the games I've played with him. Nin isn't dead weight, but the scum does usually let him live for long time just to let him do his thing and confuse/muddle the waters in the game in general. But the five chosen are the ones that I wouldn't mind seeing gone.

For now,

VOTE: Trigger

Because I can see a scum oreomunsta/kitsunelaine panic from pressure later on due to no scum chat backing them up, rac could potentially be misplaced on this list and isaac is a player I don't have good enough read on to say for sure. But I can see with Trigger two things happening:

1. If he is town, scum will use him as dead weight later in an important day phase to detrimental results for town
2. Or if he is scum, I can see him fall into obscurity and blender himself to victory.

We don't have much material on right now. But I'm not interested in lynching any of the louder spokespeople on Day 1.
 
I was also considering Christina Mackenzie, but they have been lot more snarky today than what I remembered, which pushed me away from doing so.
 
You know Burb, I find it interesting that you specifically want to lynch 'dead weight', aka people who are easy to lynch, today when this Day Phase is the ONLY Day Phase we'll get a concrete result from the Flip.

Want to make sure a scummate doesn't get lynched by going for the easy targets, hmm?
 
Sawneeks said:
You know Burb, I find it interesting that you specifically want to lynch 'dead weight', aka people who are easy to lynch, today when this Day Phase is the ONLY Day Phase we'll get a concrete result from the Flip.

Want to make sure a scummate doesn't get lynched by going for the easy targets, hmm?
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Yes. That is my master plan. I'm protecting my scum mates hey_monkey, Castamere and you from being lynched.

The problem with lynching dead weight later is that later mislynches will also give scum much more voting power in terms of their voting power percentage getting higher increase in comparison to us lynching dead weight D1. The people I left out of the list are also people I consider to be at least more talkative/contributive to the game, and it's a classical scum tactic for trying to remove all louder voices of discussion in order to control the game more easily. I'm not interested in giving scum that advantage from the start.
 
At the moment we are already looking at a fairly quiet game (contrary to popular belief, D1 tends to be the most active day in terms of posts). If we kill sources of conversation off fast, and they don't flip scum, we are giving a breeding ground for yet another game were apathetical town is being lead by scum to killing themselves. We've seen this happen before, Anime Mafia is first example that comes to mind.
 
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