Returning member after a long absence, how would you rate the overall health of this forum?


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Of the paltry 4 you linked

Only 1 of which might be considered transphobia. So fuck, that's only 25% of your cherry picked posts.

But you know, unless my maths is incorrect or something, that might be a smidge under 0.5% in the context of the entire thread.

Hows that narrative holding up?
 

The first two are shit postings but the last two, I don't see anything wrong with those.

Link 3 - (obviously stories shouldn't be censored)

No, you cut the crap. You're asking for stories such as this to be censored, so the illusion that "Transwomen" are harmless, and are nothing but immaculate victims incapable of committing serious crimes is maintained.

Four women have been sexually assaulted by a man claiming to be a woman, and people are worrying about the offender's safety and transphobia. Had the offender identified as a man then the sympathy for his four victims would be immediate and unequivocal . But as he "identifies as a woman", he is now a "trans woman" and is therefore a victim himself – despite committing serious crimes.

It's absolute bullshit.

Link 4 - (someone against the idea of a person with man parts living in a woman's prison which sounds sensible).

Horrible..
Why the hell would you put an individual with a fully working dong in a womans prison.
They need to establish a standard asap. Either you are fully transitioned or not.

People are so confused by the current political climate that they are ready to put others in danger.
 
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I think I linked the 4th one wrong actually.


Yes shit posting, bigotted shit posting.

Sorry satan's if you want to see more trans bigotted shit, just look through you own post history.
 
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I think I linked the 4th one wrong actually.
Yes shit posting, bigotted shit posting.
Sorry satan's if you want to see more trans bigotted shit, just look through you own post history.

Well at least you have the balls to directly refer to me.

But at the end of the day, you have a pathetic understanding of what the word "bigot" means and go on, show me the fucking receipts.

You're the one making the claim, the onus is on you to back it up.
 
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I think I linked the 4th one wrong actually.


Yes shit posting, bigotted shit posting.

Sorry satan's if you want to see more trans bigotted shit, just look through you own post history.

Or people have different opinions that isn't in line with yours. You have to reach to claim that what was stated is truly "transphobic". You can discuss without having to rely on emotional postings like you have, calling others "bigots" for a difference in opinion - that is just childish.
 
I think I linked the 4th one wrong actually.


Yes shit posting, bigotted shit posting.

Sorry satan's if you want to see more trans bigotted shit, just look through you own post history.

Everything is not being bigoted or transphobic just because you don't like someone's opinion. You can certainly feel like they are but just because you say it is does not make it true. Please stop trying to label everyone with such reckless abandon. Whether you like it or not right now people on this forum can actually have an opinion without getting dogpiled and banned instantly.
 
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Everything is not being bigoted or transphobic just because you don't like someone's opinion. You can certainly feel like they are but just because you say it is does not make it true. Please stop trying to label everyone with such reckless abandon. Whether you like it or not right now people on this forum can actually have an opinion without getting dogpiled and banned instantly.

I only said half.
 
As per the last page


Speaking of gibberish, the last post:

Now, if you wanted to talk about the non gender "genders" than you might have a decent argument. example - "Abimegender– A gender which is profound, deep, and infinite." this is not a fucking gender and you don't get your special pronouns or "other" bathrooms. Now sit down and realise your entire college "gender studies" education was a complete waste of time and effort and has not a single relevant application in, what the rest of us call, reality.

Your mental gymnastics are week old man.

Are you really going to sit there and act as though "profound, deep, and infinite" is a gender? Is laughing at that somehow denying the existence or humanity of people with gender dysphoria?

Nasa should have hired you to take photos of pluto with a reach like that.

I used an idiom and you took it literally.

What do you want me to say? You want me to link quantitatively 50.1% of posts on here?

You can't even link more than 1 post to back up your exaggerated claim that half of this forum are trans deniers then try you argue the semantics of exaggeration... Fucking quality deflection.
 
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I'm not gonna through through all the stupid shit that has been happening on this forum for months and month, that only a handful (non quantitative) of you refuse to acknowledge.
 
I'm not gonna through through all the stupid shit that has been happening on this forum for months and month, that only a handful (non quantitative) of you refuse to acknowledge.

Read; I can't back up my claim because I know my usage of terms like bigot and transphobia are flimsy as fuck so I'm just gonna moral high ground you.
 

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Are you ever going to disconnect "not blowing sunshine up their arse" from "transphobia"?

And that thread spends most of its time laughing at feminism and oppression olympics...
 
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I think I'm finally back on this forum. Stayed here for a bit after the whole thing but drifted away because there wasn't enough activity. After spending time on that other forum it has devolved into the same type of discussions/responses that I was getting annoyed at with neogaf. Dog piling on anyone with a different opinion and each topic being an echo chamber. I consider myself liberal, but some of their discussion is very left wing extreme.... creates a very toxic environment. I'm glad to be back. :)
 
I'm not gonna through through all the stupid shit that has been happening on this forum for months and month, that only a handful (non quantitative) of you refuse to acknowledge.

People have different upbringings which can bring different mindsets and I'm cool with that as long as people aren't outright attacking each other as we just don't know the details of what they've been through and it is interesting as to why people think in a certain manner.

You'll never change everyone and it is fruitless in trying as someone new is born every second.
 
People have different upbringings which can bring different mindsets and I'm cool with that as long as people aren't outright attacking each other as we just don't know the details of what they've been through and it is interesting as to why people think in a certain manner.

You'll never change everyone and it is fruitless in trying as someone new is born every second.

Yea, but some mindsets, are just wrong. Just putting it out there is enough for me even if people refuse reality. (yes that's irony)
 

Just to humor you i skimmed through all 4 pages of that thread you linked about the transgender runners and there is maybe one or two questionable posts by trolls in that thread but by and large it is a mostly harmless thread with people debating about transgender issues in sports. Again, please stop applying your feelings only because you are just looking for something to be angry about and it is just making you look not good.
 
Yea, but some mindsets, are just wrong. Just putting it out there is enough for me even if people refuse reality. (yes that's irony)

The reason I listed those two links above as shit posts was because there was no thought put into them at all.
They were simply driveby's.
If people put proper thought into their posts and what they thought did not align with my own, then I would at least still find it interesting.

Don't get me wrong, I operate out of my circle and don't bother too much further as it all seems rather like pointless wasted energy.
If I saw someone getting harassed in public on the other hand and especially if I knew them then I would step in as I'm in the moment and disparagement of others should not be tolerated no matter who they are.
 
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Just to humor you i skimmed through all 4 pages of that thread you linked about the transgender runners and there is maybe one or two questionable posts by trolls in that thread but by and large it is a mostly harmless thread with people debating about transgender issues in sports. Again, please stop applying your feelings only because you are just looking for something to be angry about and it is just making you look not good.

If you say so. I'm also very heavily worried about not looking good to some of you. Honest, just dearthly conflicted.
 
If you say so. I'm also very heavily worried about not looking good to some of you. Honest, just dearthly conflicted.

Yeah, you are pathetic. Do us all a favor and go back to that other forum. I am sure you appreciate and love the echo chamber there since you admit you don't give a shit about others opinions and the only one that matters is yours and others that agree with you. When you grow up and remove your fingers from your ears, let's talk and have a conversation. Until then i'm just going to call you out every time you cry about things that are not true and just based on your feelings.
 
Yeah, you are pathetic. Do us all a favor and go back to that other forum. I am sure you appreciate and love the echo chamber there since you admit you don't give a shit about others opinions and the only one that matters is yours and others that agree with you. When you grow up and remove your fingers from your ears, let's talk and have a conversation. Until then i'm just going to call you out every time you cry about things that are not true and just based on your feelings.

Maybe.

This world of ours is just going to hell. In 10 years or less this world will literally be like the one seen in Demolition Man. BE WELL JOHN SPARTAN! In another 20 or 30 years we will be living in a world like the one in Equilibrium minus the gungfu shit. I would rather be living in the sewers being able to do what i want then this shit being turned into a sterile SJW world.

Why is it so hard to believe? There is not one day that goes by that someone or some people on twitter are crying about their poor feelings. There is not one day that goes by where somewhere someone or some people are marching because they think they are oppressed when they are not.

Wait, when I grow up ?
 
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pointing out that men and women are different ain't transphobia, especially as it relates to sports.

bone density, muscle mass and fiber length, reaction time, so on, these things add up.
 
Maybe.





Wait, when I grow up?
And? I stand by those posts. Keep digging up my posting history though. I am sure that you will find the skeleton in my closet. I could go digging up posts of yours too but you are a one trick pony and everything you posted in this thread alone is proof of that.
 
pointing out that men and women are different ain't transphobia, especially as it relates to sports.

bone density, muscle mass and fiber length, reaction time, so on, these things add up.
Shh. We don't need facts in here. We need more baseless accusations.

You're hurting the narrative.
 
I just wanted to apologize to Evilore and the Mods. If i overstepped and made you guys/this forum bad i understand if you ban me. I just do not want to go back to the way it was before where if you said something that is not in lock step with the hive mind you would be banned no matter what. I want to and this sounds lame but i want to fight for a better forums and i don't want to watch on the sidelines as we go back to how it was before. That is not fair to anyone who dares have a different opinion or thought. I like where the forums are right now, where people can express a thought without questioning whether there account is on the line and then don't post at all. Obviously if you post vile shit including me you should still be held accountable 100 percent.
 
It's important to exercise some restraint, mainly. It's okay to have a contentious position, generally, but say what you have to say, follow up to clarify or support it as necessary, but if you're getting a lot of responses, it's better not to respond to every single person coming at you. And as per the above, when you run out of constructive things to say, let it go. Needing to have the last word is unnecessary and disruptive.

On the other side of someone posting contentiously, also exercise some restraint. The user above was publicly warned and reply banned, so dancing around in their absence now is also unnecessary and disruptive. Let it go, too, and let's move on.

The mod team has instructions not to take action against someone being dogpiled just for the sake of that, so please keep that in mind. There won't be mob justice here. :messenger_halo: All disruptive, non-constructive, hostile type posting will be treated as poor form, first and foremost. Thanks!
 
I've lurked for years, only recently started posting, the board has changed, from I guess a more left leaning board to a right leaning one, which isn't a bad thing, but there are times when I think the board is becoming The_Donald lite, but as the above poster mentioned, there is opportunity to have proper reasoned discussion......sometimes.

People are confused about left and right these days, because there's been a ruling right-wing class for four decades that has muddied the waters. Trump is right-wing, to be sure. So was Obama. So was Hillary Clinton. So was Bill Clinton. So was George Bush. So was Al Gore. The US, and all western nations, have had right-wing ruling classes for four decades. An element of that ruling class passed themselves off as "the left" or as "progressives." They weren't. Left and right are economic issues. All reasonable human beings are anti-racists, are anti-sexist, and generally oppose discrimination based upon arbitrary characteristics of human beings. If a person is racist, or a sexist, that person is a troglodyte. The left opposes troglodytes attempting to use their bigotry to advance their political economic agendas (enrichment of capital's owners and managers at the expense of working people). The left also opposes people opposing troglodytes for the purposes of advancing that very same economic agenda of advancing capital's owners and managers and working people's expense. The problem with "centrist" or "moderate" or "Third Way" Democrats (what has come to be associated with "the left") is that they have exploited the bigotry on the right to advance their own right-wing economic agendas, i.e., their service of Wall Street. This is what is called "identity politics" in the mainstream.

So what is the (real) left? It most certainly is anti-racist and anti-sexist. But it is also pro-labor. You can't have a left without labor and without an understanding of class issues. The left defends the interests of working people at the expense of capital's owners and managers.
 
Well, I'm enjoying the place more all the time. I haven't had a bad interaction yet. Lots of friendly and funny people. I tend to avoid most political topics, so that helps. I'm not really here to argue politics. I do love the sudden diversity of opinion, though.

I'm here mostly for game discussion. That half of the forum is small-medium, but I like the size. It could be a little bigger, and I'm sure it will grow. I try to do my part and chime in, start a thread here and there.
 
Well, I'm enjoying the place more all the time. I haven't had a bad interaction yet. Lots of friendly and funny people. I tend to avoid most political topics, so that helps. I'm not really here to argue politics. I do love the sudden diversity of opinion, though.

I'm here mostly for game discussion. That half of the forum is small-medium, but I like the size. It could be a little bigger, and I'm sure it will grow. I try to do my part and chime in, start a thread here and there.

Yep, traffic just needs to pick up on the gaming side. I hate how political off topic is though. Nearly half the first page threads at a glance are Trump/politics. Just make a damn political subforum again so those converstations can still thrive and see if that leads to more movie/show/sports/music/life advice/random fun threads start appearing. That's what made OT great back in the day, not the political threads (of which there where many fewer prior to Trump and Gamergate).

A lot of people who like those type of threads probably stay away from OT because of all the political toxicity. Put that in it's own sub and get rid of the OT Community area and merge all those threads over here in main OT (any political community threads aside). If it doesn't work and traffic sucks or whatever, just revert back.
 
People are confused about left and right these days, because there's been a ruling right-wing class for four decades that has muddied the waters. Trump is right-wing, to be sure. So was Obama. So was Hillary Clinton. So was Bill Clinton. So was George Bush. So was Al Gore. The US, and all western nations, have had right-wing ruling classes for four decades. An element of that ruling class passed themselves off as "the left" or as "progressives." They weren't. Left and right are economic issues. All reasonable human beings are anti-racists, are anti-sexist, and generally oppose discrimination based upon arbitrary characteristics of human beings. If a person is racist, or a sexist, that person is a troglodyte. The left opposes troglodytes attempting to use their bigotry to advance their political economic agendas (enrichment of capital's owners and managers at the expense of working people). The left also opposes people opposing troglodytes for the purposes of advancing that very same economic agenda of advancing capital's owners and managers and working people's expense. The problem with "centrist" or "moderate" or "Third Way" Democrats (what has come to be associated with "the left") is that they have exploited the bigotry on the right to advance their own right-wing economic agendas, i.e., their service of Wall Street. This is what is called "identity politics" in the mainstream.

So what is the (real) left? It most certainly is anti-racist and anti-sexist. But it is also pro-labor. You can't have a left without labor and without an understanding of class issues. The left defends the interests of working people at the expense of capital's owners and managers.
Oh snap! One of my favorite posters appears. Long time!
 
The thing about keyboard warriors/ sjw, is that they don't realize they're comically annoying and very, very, very dumb. Those guys or gals who fight for every little thing spend far too much time here arguing with people who don't like them or won't agree with them and they're trickling back in. Why are they dumb? Because they spend an inordinate amount of time on here, without getting paid, putting in too much of an effort, fighting the 'good fight'.

I'm starting to believe they might be slightly maladapted to real life. Could be wrong though. It's almost a derangement syndrome.
 
I have noticed a nice uptick in game discussion on the gaming side the past week or so. That's great to see and I hope it continues. I'm going to keep being more active in gaming threads, while starting to not giving the political topics views or posts anymore, and hope it keeps getting back on track.
 
I have noticed a nice uptick in game discussion on the gaming side the past week or so. That's great to see and I hope it continues. I'm going to keep being more active in gaming threads, while starting to not giving the political topics views or posts anymore, and hope it keeps getting back on track.

If you see a gaming announcement or news that you think is important for discussion, please create a thread for it as well! I would do more to create threads, but I only have so much free time in the day.
 
If you see a gaming announcement or news that you think is important for discussion, please create a thread for it as well! I would do more to create threads, but I only have so much free time in the day.

I plan to! Just a slower gaming news time between E3 and the fall releases so not much worth sharing lately.
 
I think the general conscious is that there was a weeding out process of sorts even if that meant losing the majority of the sites fanbase.
 
I plan to! Just a slower gaming news time between E3 and the fall releases so not much worth sharing lately.

Agreed. Thankfully EVO has provided a nice boost of talk. Still working on the new FGC OT, but that is takin' a bit longer than I would have liked. Writing is definitely my weakpoint.
 
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