The reason is Disney. One director's stupidity means nothing in the greater scheme of things. The corporations behind him though, that's a whole different ballgame.
But every time I mention "Why does <insert movie> have such a discrepancy between critics and user scores?" people reply: "Haven't we learned critics don't know shit ever since The Last Jedi?"
Both online and in person with people I meet. TLJ was the first major blockbuster to get a 93% (yes back in December 2017 it was at 93%) and an audience score in the 50s (Now 44%)
Then the media run a news story about half the haters of TLJ being Russian bots or trolls, and then Rian endorses the tweet, causing another shitstorm.
Then last year youtubers create a new term: "The Rey Effect" talking about how if not for the Rey character, people wouldn't be nervous about Captain Marvel.
It's true. MCU fans had no serious issue with Captain Marvel until after TLJ made them worry about every single "strong" female character in future movies.
I honestly had no issue with Captain Marvel up until last year. It's thanks to Rey and TLJ.
It would of been so good if they could of kept End Game free of new, shoehorned-in characters, and stuck to the already established heroes. Instead they decided to give us Transformers the animated movie: "Hey, you want to see Optimus Prime save the day??? Too bad because you're going to get your favourite new character: Rodmus - isn't he just super cool and awesome????
Hopefully they will make Cap Marvel, ultimately just exist, so Rogue can power-leach her.
Unfortunately , we would still have to sit through a couple of movies with Brie mugging the camera. Ugh.
giving the descriptions and scenes i heard from this movie. You can easily say she is Marvel's Superman. And maybe if she would have been a part of this since Age of Ultron than it would be different but she has not earned Endgame at all. They should have introduced her after Endgame against the new threat they will be facing.
Also there is no way the people vanished will stay dead There is NO way for example Spider Man is finished. While watching Endgame I fear I will now wait for Captain Marvel saving the day and then say I told you so...
It has dampen my excitement for Endgame by a lot actually.
If they wanted a women play a bigger role how about Black Widow instead?
super strong, super fast, indestructible and always right. A literal girl scout. She is written to be the female Superman in the comic books. Somehow I doubt they will do the movie version different, especially when the current writer of Captain Marvel has input.
I can easily see them doing to Captain Marvel what DC did with Superman in the 3rd act of Justice League.
I'll be 'renting' this one from the library. I just don't get to see many movies in the theater because I've got two littles, and the last few were identitarian nightmares.
Wreck it Ralph 2 literally emasculated Ralph, put him in a dress, then had woke versions of princesses save him and belittle him. Incredibles 2 had mr incredible make a fool of himself trying to take care of a household while mrs incredible saved the day with nonstop winks to wokeness, and the last jedi ruined my childhood. Lego 2 had some clear woke moments, but wasn't quite as bad because it intertwined men suck with some decent brother/sister messaging.
The only other movie I've seen in the last year or so was alita [wanted to see glass but missed it]. That was great.
I just have no interest in watching propaganda, especially when it's for a cause I find disgusting. And it's swamped 4 out of the last 5 movies I paid to go see, because I didn't research beforehand.
I'll go see the next avengers, maybe. But I'm pretty much done with Disney. They can go f themselves for ruining so many fantastic franchises with woke politics. I'm not going to spend money and time at a theater just because they know I want to see what happens in the universe.
I haven't seen any of the movies you talked about other than Incredibles 2 and I just didn't get the same vibe from it. To me it was a dad that wasn't used to being a homemaker realizing how different it was. The reason he sucked at it was because he had never done it before and he has a baby with superpowers. It was played up for laughs and doing something different. Just because a movie has a different focus doesn't mean there's some hidden agenda and all men are beta cucks now and I am woman hear me roar. You can breakdown anything and get the meaning you want from it no matter what point you're trying to achieve.
I will say I'm happy we can have a bunch of different opinions in here and no one has to worry about being banned for disagreeing.
I have read spoiler reviews and opinions. People who love the marvel movie universe. People who know about Captain Marvel in the Comics etc. And they say the same thing. She should not be in Endgame but introduced afterwards because now she has become Marvel's Superman who in the end will beat Thanos.
Can you point me to those people? I want to read them to understand them better, so simply linking those texts or videos will be very helpful. Cause my observations over the past few days on r/marvelstudios and r/marvelstudiosspoilers gives me the knowledge that the majority of people seems to think it was a decend enjoyable movie with "phase 1" quality, like most MCU origin movies. Also, the leaked pic from the mid-credits scene shows Carol with a new hair style and a new suit on "r/marvelstudiosspoilers, this has made people hyped on thar subreddit as it shows that the Russos does indeed have a different take on Carol. The suit she has in the mid-credits scene is much more align with the one she does have in the comics.
Also I do not know but they are NOT DEAD. Spider-man also vanished into dust and Far From Home is set after Infinity War and Endgame to show the after events and how the world has changed
Every one of the dusted heroes are DEAD. Half of humanity are dead. Thanos wiped out half of ALL LIVING creatures on earth. They are all dead. Will they come back? Of course, Far From Home, Black Panther 2, Strange 2 etc. will be out at some point, but right now, they are all dead.
In the Endgame prelude comic, the snap is called "The Decimation" which is describes by the Dictionary as:
verb (used with object), dec·i·mat·ed, dec·i·mat·ing.
to destroy a great number or proportion of:The population was decimated by a plague.
to select by lot and kill every tenth person of.
Obsolete . to take a tenth of or from.
Thanos killed off half of every living creature on earth and other planets in the universe. Endgame will focus on undo that so that we do get a Far Frome Home, Strange 2, Black Panther 2 and so on.
You don't have to watch it, but if it's the only MCU movie you haven't seen, she'll be the only character you haven't seen any background on. And know about her background might help flesh out her character more in Endgame. If that makes sense?
You'll understand some of her journey and what she has been through.
Theater was about half full. Saw a late showing last night.
"They are who we thought they were!" " The late, great, Denny Green
It's exactly what I thought it would be. Might sound cliche especislly because I read and watched dozens of reviews. I guess my opinion could have already been preconceived due to that, but I feel like I honestly agree with The Big Three of Chris, Jeremy, and Grace (to a lesser extent, she harped on Captain Feminism bit and I honestly didn't feel drowned by feminism, not at all actually). I'll touch on one aspect of each of those reviews I agree with.
Chris said it feels like a Phase One movie. I agree. This feels like it came out with Iron Man, Thor, Captain America: First Avenger etc. It lacks the humor and heart of a later release like Homecoming, and Ant-Man, or the imagination of Ragnarok, or the epic action of Infinity War or Civil War.
Jeremy said it felt like her personality got zapped away as soon as she makes it to Earth and I agree. When she's first talking to Nick Fury it felt very "cardboard," her performance just isn't very inspiring to me, no real Charisma. I'll give her time to grow but I worry it was a bad casting, and I'm not even talking about the politics, just strictly her performance in this film. Gal Gadot is miles ahead of Larson at this point, imo
Grace said it was formulaic and by the numbers. Yeah, for sure. The nature of discovering her past was kind of cool, I guess? No real huge surprises, and as far as the twist:
doesnt the twist just make it so we will never get a Secret Wars/Invasion storyline on screen? Isn't that a pretty awesome and bloody affair? Or will there be an evil sect of Skrull introduced at some point later?
I didn't make it to the end credits. I was feeling very shaky and bolted out of there to head home. Nothing to do with the movie, just my issues
Gonna have to watch a post credits breakdown to see what I missed.
Are the origins of her powers the same in the comics?
Overall I give it a 6.7
Pretty entertaining, the 90s stuff is OKAY I guess and some of the songs had me nodding my head a little. Mostly forgettable, no real "oh SHIT!" moments, imo. The supporting cast does very well. Larson is out-acted by almost everyone, including the cat.
When I got home I put on Ragnarok as I fell asleep and you can feel the difference almost immediately, it just feels "fuller."
I haven't seen any of the movies you talked about other than Incredibles 2 and I just didn't get the same vibe from it. To me it was a dad that wasn't used to being a homemaker realizing how different it was. The reason he sucked at it was because he had never done it before and he has a baby with superpowers. It was played up for laughs and doing something different. Just because a movie has a different focus doesn't mean there's some hidden agenda and all men are beta cucks now and I am woman hear me roar. You can breakdown anything and get the meaning you want from it no matter what point you're trying to achieve.
Technically, the first movie had a pro-masculinity angle where Mr. Incredible was emasculated by sitting in a cubicle farm following instructions from an angry little troll while secretly pining away for being a hero. The movie even makes a point of it when it shows how much more amorous he is with his wife once he starts superheroing on the side. In the end, the movie makes a point of showing how being a family man is important too and how important his family is to him, but the result is that he allows his family to be heroes too - once a loner, now part of a family, to join him in the things he loves while he joins them in the things they love. To be a family in spirit as well as by blood. The end of the movie is him at his kid's track meet shortly before they put on masks, about to battle the mole guy together. You know, as a family.
Then the first thing the second movie does is strip all of that away. The kids who just put on their masks? Watch the baby. Mr. Incredible? You can't be a hero. Your wife is going off to another city without you. He just learned the value of family, so now that family is taken away. Every attempt at helping his family is a disaster, even making Violet hate him. It's like Luke in the Last Jedi. They took away everything he worked for, everything he earned, with no fanfare or reason except that they had to make a new movie. To make it worse, the ending leaves him in a worse place than the first film.
He's profoundly unhappy for more or less the exact same reason he was profoundly unhappy in the first film - only his story arc in this one is that he learns to deal with his family. He's still emasculated. He doesn't even save his wife. She defeats him! So in a way, the movies end at ALMOST the exact same point, with the importance of family, but the crucial difference is that Mr. Incredible doesn't have his masculinity that he earned by the end of the first movie. He's a hero again, but he didn't earn that. His wife did. It was given to him, and while I'm sure he is happy to have it back, it makes for a particularly uncathartic ending for him. Where was the moment in the second movie where he realized how important family was to him? Where he realized the value in being a hero? It was taken away and given back. He did nothing for it.
Dramatically, I have major problems with The Incredibles 2. I was really disappointed after the first movie and Ratatouille were so good. In fact, you could argue that Ratatouille was the ultimate feminist movie given that it was about not judging people on their superficial exterior, about someone who had to hide their accomplishments behind a man (the Remington Steele defense), and who managed to succeed in an environment rife with prejudice. And yet despite this, the movie was amazing because it really made you feel the longing that Remy felt, and few movies have a more emotionally cathartic moment than when the food critic tastes Remy's cooking. That movie could've been so bad if it were made these days with the kind of beliefs about feminism that are predominant. But it wasn't. And unlike Captain Marvel, Remy was an actual character that was driven by something more interesting than showing the men that women are better than they are.
I will say I'm happy we can have a bunch of different opinions in here and no one has to worry about being banned for disagreeing.
I saw the movie last night. I enjoyed it, as did my wife, but I wouldn't call it one of the better MCU movies. It really felt like ''filler" until we get Endgame. Kind of a forced superhero movie to quickly get into that Endgame battle. The writing was decent at best, and some of the jokes fell flat. The hype for Endgame may have hurt it a bit for me, not sure.
After seeing the movie do you really get "the feel" that she's the most powerful hero in the MCU? I feel like what we saw from Thor in Infinity War, and Hulk in Avengers (one hit KOing that huge flying thing) match or surpass the power level shown in CM.
After seeing the movie do you really get "the feel" that she's the most powerful hero in the MCU? I feel like what we saw from Thor in Infinity War, and Hulk in Avengers (one hit KOing that huge flying thing) match or surpass the power level shown in CM.
I had that thought watching the movie. I guess when she finally "powers up" is when shes pretty much invulnerable. When she wasn't doing that it felt like a well placed sniper head shot would take her out. Its weird that I enjoyed this movie because I really do have many issues with it.
Seen it yesterday and... both me and my (female) friend agreed it was the worst MCU movie of them all. :/
I don't know if it was mostly Brie's fault or just bad writing/directing but her character had the charisma of a damp cloth - just as I feared when I saw the first trailer. She's arrogant, tries to be bad-ass but just comes off cocky and cold, her so-called character arc is basically a straight line (she doesn't overcome anything other then lack of information - certainly no weaknessess or character flaws) and when she gets into full-power (OP) mode, I felt nothing; not even the joy and excitement of her wrecking shit up. She even annoyed me with how she walked, with those fists always clenched - like she's a kid playing dress up or someone desperately trying to prove something, even though she at one points straight up says "I don't have to prove anything to you," - to a male character of course, wink-wink. Self-negating nature of such a statement seems to be lost on them, I guess...
The best part of the movie was basically the cat, de-aging of Sam L. J., one or two "retro" jokes and the whole Kree/Skrull situation I can't go into because of spoilers and... that's about it. She doesn't earn her spot in the MCU assemble at all, let alone a prominent one they've shoehorned her into, and I fear she's going to - at least partially - ruin the Endgame for me. Not because she's a female (super)hero; because she's just badly written and/or performed. Maybe she'll improve like Cap did (hated how vanilla he was in his first movie and now he's one of my favorites) but I doubt it; not with that huge chip on her shoulder dragging her down - on-screen and off.
This, a thousand times this. @evillore discusses this in his review of marvel, and the video I linked earlier of LiteratureDevil on YouTube does a fantastic job comparing the origin of Daredevil, which brilliantly delevops a hero, to a modern Mary sue whose name I can't remember.
The essential problem is that those writing from this modern angle have dug themselves into a bind. No woman can have typical female flaws, because the writer is solidifying the patriarchy, or some such shite. And they can't be bad at anything males do, because then that also supports their awful patriarchy. But you cant become a hero if you're already perfect, you can't just be handed superpowers. You need to be flawed but heroic to start. You need to earn your powers. Perhaps the easiest example is spiderman, who gets his powers and then immediately learns their importance, and earns them, with the death of uncle ben.
Rey doesnt even need to be properly trained to beat people. They could have phoned it home and just had Luke play Yoda's role, but they avoided that for political reasons, and when we do get Luke, well, I'd talk about that but I put a fork in my ear that night to scramble and forget all memories of it.
So these characters typically have no flaws, nothing internal to overcome. Obstacles, if any, must be external... and they usually can't be other women unless the other women is also strong and independent. So the enemy ends up being some caricature of extremely flawed men getting in their way.
So these characters typically have no flaws, nothing internal to overcome. Obstacles, if any, must be external... and they usually can't be other women unless the other women is also strong and independent. So the enemy ends up being some caricature of extremely flawed men getting in their way.
But, I mean, isn't that also the case for Ratatouille? That uses the typical feminist storytelling perspective of a perfect character who's perfection is being oppressed. It's just that they manage to make Remy into a character that cares about his success. It isn't a revenge fantasy of showing people up who doubted them. It's about this longing need that is being denied to him that he achieves through talents that only he has.
I think the revenge fantasy is the problem. The idea that I'm supposed to be cheering on a character acting out of selfishness and pettiness feels wrong. It's like, so what if you are good at everything if the only thing you use that for is to show off? Your big accomplishment is shutting up the haters?
Like take Superman. His thing is that the one thing he wants more than anything else is to be human. He is overpowered, but by using those powers, he is sacrificing the one thing he wants. He wants to have a family, to have a job, to visit his parents, to go to the fair - all simple human things that he usually has to abandon because someone needs his help. That's what makes Superman interesting. Not his heat vision, cold breath, or flying. It's that he doesn't do those things. He takes taxis and uses elevators.. He's Clark Kent. Superman is the made up identity. That's interesting.
After seeing the movie do you really get "the feel" that she's the most powerful hero in the MCU? I feel like what we saw from Thor in Infinity War, and Hulk in Avengers (one hit KOing that huge flying thing) match or surpass the power level shown in CM.
But, I mean, isn't that also the case for Ratatouille? That uses the typical feminist storytelling perspective of a perfect character who's perfection is being oppressed. It's just that they manage to make Remy into a character that cares about his success. It isn't a revenge fantasy of showing people up who doubted them. It's about this longing need that is being denied to him that he achieves through talents that only he has.
I think the revenge fantasy is the problem. The idea that I'm supposed to be cheering on a character acting out of selfishness and pettiness feels wrong. It's like, so what if you are good at everything if the only thing you use that for is to show off? Your big accomplishment is shutting up the haters?
Like take Superman. His thing is that the one thing he wants more than anything else is to be human. He is overpowered, but by using those powers, he is sacrificing the one thing he wants. He wants to have a family, to have a job, to visit his parents, to go to the fair - all simple human things that he usually has to abandon because someone needs his help. That's what makes Superman interesting. Not his heat vision, cold breath, or flying. It's that he doesn't do those things. He takes taxis and uses elevators.. He's Clark Kent. Superman is the made up identity. That's interesting.
Ratatouille is an interesting example. Maybe the best, since it's a masterclass in storytelling. I would argue that it's not just that his 'perfection is being oppressed', though that certainly does play a role and it definitely qualifies it as this sort of story done right.
But there are important differences. He displays the characteristics of his heroism even before he is a hero. His powers are earned - he defies his father to watch those shows, learn his lessons. The story isn't that of course he is awesome because he is a rat ['rat power'], but rather that exceptionalism can come from anywhere. Few disagree with that.
He goes through the heroes journey. If I recall correctly, he even hallucinates during the heavily symbolic sewer ride that separates him from everything he knows.
He is also flawed. He struggles with dealing with his family, with the moral quandry of responsibility to his family vs responsibility to his friend and 'employer' and the ramifications of following his own dreams. That is, being a independent, unique rat isn't viewed as being an inherent virtue, but a struggle. Chasing your dreams has cost, requires tough decisions, can hurt your family. He isn't a symbol of virtue to the other rats- if anything, he is a symbol of selfishness for not sharing, for not giving them what they didn't earn. Success is a struggle, not a right of rathood someone else was trying to keep from him.
So while I grant that he is magically gifted his skills [like spiderman is, too], I would argue that he isn't magically gifted his virtue, or his work ethic, or his moral compass. Those are his battles, and they are likewise internal. He makes mistskes born in arrogance [his perfection], born in envy [not being human], born in revenge [letting the rats in], and certainly born in pride [his core sin, perhaps].
This isn't really meant to disagree with what you've said. It's more trying to identify what makes Remy so different from a Mary sue.
I'll be honest I found the comedy angle largely at odds with the main plot which was Asgard getting laid waste to and the Asgardians getting largely decimated (which makes the opening of Infinity War even darker tbh).
They killed every friend Thor had, including Sif. If she wasnt in the ship at the end, she died in Asgard.
And then in Infinity War Valkyrie is nowhere to be seen: another Thanos victim.
Can you point me to those people? I want to read them to understand them better, so simply linking those texts or videos will be very helpful. Cause my observations over the past few days on r/marvelstudios and r/marvelstudiosspoilers gives me the knowledge that the majority of people seems to think it was a decend enjoyable movie with "phase 1" quality, like most MCU origin movies. Also, the leaked pic from the mid-credits scene shows Carol with a new hair style and a new suit on "r/marvelstudiosspoilers, this has made people hyped on thar subreddit as it shows that the Russos does indeed have a different take on Carol. The suit she has in the mid-credits scene is much more align with the one she does have in the comics.
For example there is a weekly cinema show on a German channel called Rocketbeans and they talked about this. In there you had various people of different knowledge. And they state before they are talking they are only taking about the movie not the controversy behind it. Note they also thought Black Panther was decent at best as a movie. They are great in my opinion because they are only reviewing the movies not the ideologies behind them.
For example there is a weekly cinema show on a German channel called Rocketbeans and they talked about this. In there you had various people of different knowledge. And they state before they are talking they are only taking about the movie not the controversy behind it. Note they also thought Black Panther was decent at best as a movie. They are great in my opinion because they are only reviewing the movies not the ideologies behind them.
I will wait until its streaming free. I feel no need whatsoever to see this, hobbled together, non cannon, thrown in at the last second because 'muh feminism' movie.
I will wait until its streaming free. I feel no need whatsoever to see this, hobbled together, non cannon, thrown in at the last second because 'muh feminism' movie.
So it was just bad direction and plot. Because they never mentioned her at all in like the 20 other movies. Fury, despite being a buddy cop partner for the lulz, never mentions that she could save the MCU? Nah... Lets leave her out until the last second so we can get those morons who never read the comics to go see another terrible movie.
They took 5 years to make a movie this trash? That's an even bigger fail than I thought. Yikes.
So it was just bad direction and plot. Because they never mentioned her at all in like the 20 other movies. Fury, despite being a buddy cop partner for the lulz, never mentions that she could save the MCU? Nah... Lets leave her out until the last second so we can get those morons who never read the comics to go see another terrible movie.
The more I sit and think on it the more I wish they had gone with the two consciousness/personalities angle.
The Kree one could be this fierce warrior only concerned with the fight and using her own strength to protect herself and her comrades/people. Her human side would be equally passionate but more of a free spirit who cherishes and cares for her friends and feels the most alive chasing after her love of flying..
This would give her some vulnerability when the Kree personality fades out along with her powers while also creating doubt for those around her when she turns into a whole other person on a dime. This would have given the film more some much needed tension during the middle section and some existential drama with the Kree side being afraid of vanishing into nothing the more that the other self starts to reemerge while the other is afraid of the power and destruction her body is being used for.
In the end though they are really just two sides of the same person who doesn't need to fit neatly into one box or the other and this is the realization that truly unlocks her potential.
So much for Captain America: F I R S T A V E N G E R, being the first Avenger. Or the conflict Thor and Loki brought being the reason SHIELD made weapons from the Tesseract, etc...
Plotholes and retcons baby.
Also regarding her power. Considering how Doctor Strange in Ragnarok basically toyed with Thor by constantly teleporting him with magic etc., couldn't he just own every avenger easily?
...That's why it feels thrown together, to bait fans with a tiny clip at the end of a movie... They had 5 years to flesh out a story that could weave togeather important parts from the comic cannon. Yet they just pushed 90's nostalgia and 'yay feminism'. For what? Clearly it failed. Now they just piss off more fans of the universe. And have left another scar on the face of actual fans.
In the end though they are really just two sides of the same person who doesn't need to fit neatly into one box or the other and this is the realization that truly unlocks her potential.
...That's why it feels thrown together, to bait fans with a tiny clip at the end of a movie... They had 5 years to flesh out a story that could weave togeather important parts from the comic cannon. Yet they just pushed 90's nostalgia and 'yay feminism'. For what? Clearly it failed. Now they just piss off more fans of the universe. And have left another scar on the face of actual fans.
The thing the Russos has over the other directors, imo, is that they make the characters "Human first, superhero second", they are all grounded.
I didn't start to take an interest in the MCU until one day, out of the blue, I watched The Winter Soldier which is imo the best superhero movie of all time. A very "grounded" and "human" superhero movie and it was the Russos first superhero movie.
I find it dumb why she hasn't tried to take the thing she had on her neck earlier.
The thing the Russos has over the other directors, imo, is that they make the characters "Human first, superhero second", they are all grounded.
I didn't start to take an interest in the MCU until one day, out of the blue, I watched The Winter Soldier which is imo the best superhero movie of all time. A very "grounded" and "human" superhero movie and it was the Russos first superhero movie.
Cap is still the first Avenger regardless of Carol being the inspiration for the title. I mean the title always got grafted on much later anyway.
The neck thing made me roll eyes in the theatre. Should have been a surge of power that blew it off instead of her taking it off in her mind and it mysteriously vanishing.
An all out Avengers+Cpt Marvel vs Thanos brawl will seem like a rehash of Infinity War, and I think the Russo Bros are too talented and clever to do something like that. I am hopeful Endgame will be something totally unexpected, and still immensely satisfying. I still have faith.
Besides, Capt Marvel being able to go head to head with Thanos+his Gauntlet wouldn't make any sense. She derived her powers from the Tesseract, right? So that's just one Infinity Stone. But Thanos has all 6. She might be able to hold him off a while, like Wanda did in Infinity War. But that's it.
I actually think it would make more sense to have the Scarlett Witch defeat Thanos rather than Captain Marvel. Considering he killed her lover the Vision. You can even debate that Scarlett Witch is more powerful than Captain Marvel, if you go by comic book history at least.
Maybe you should way until Endgame is out before declaring that she is Superman? How do you now Carol will beat Thanos in the end? You know nothing about Endgame.
And btw, every one of the Avengers got their shit beaten by Thanos. Do you expect the very few who are left to be able to just magically just beat him? Of course they need another heavy-hitter on their team.
Carol has been planned for years, she has just been delayed. Feige has even said one of the first drafts of Age of Ultron was Carol in.
"All of the Marvel characters have flaws to them, all of them have a deep humanity to them. With Captain Marvel, she is as powerful a character as we've ever put in a movie. Her powers are off the charts, and when she's introduced, she will be by far the strongest character we've ever had. It's important, then, to counterbalance that with someone who feels real. She needs to have a humanity to tap into, and Brie can do that."
They killed every friend Thor had, including Sif. If she wasnt in the ship at the end, she died in Asgard.
And then in Infinity War Valkyrie is nowhere to be seen: another Thanos victim.
They killed every friend Thor had, including Sif. If she wasn't in the ship at the end, she died in Asgard.
And then in Infinity War Valkyrie is nowhere to be seen: another Thanos victim.
In the commentary on Infinity War, the Russos basically implied that Valkyrie etc managed to escape from Thanos. As for Sif, if they were going to kill her they'd have gotten Jaimie Alexander back and had her die with Volstagg etc. I'm not sure we'll necessarily see that character again (her absence from Ragnarok was notable) but given Asgardians clearly get out and about I wouldn't presume the character is dead.
I went to the midnight showing and mine was sold out, but most midnight showing sell out so that's not that surprising. However I'm going again tonight with friends so I'll let you know.
I went to the midnight showing and mine was sold out, but most midnight showing sell out so that's not that surprising. However I'm going again tonight with friends so I'll let you know.
Thought it was an ok movie. Middle of the road for marvel. Fury and Colson were the best characters. Was worth it for the lore and filler before endgame.
If it wasn't tied to the overarching plot I wouldn't have gone to see it.
