Scotty W
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While I don't much like Trudeau, this makes his opponents look bad. He realized it was a ridiculous thing to say immediately after saying it. Everyone is entitled to a slip of the tongue.
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While I don't much like Trudeau, this makes his opponents look bad. He realized it was a ridiculous thing to say immediately after saying it. Everyone is entitled to a slip of the tongue.
Sakura
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If these antibody tests are accurate, then the numbers don't look so good. According to the tests 14.9% of the state has already been infected. That would give us a death rate of about 0.6%. This is ignoring all of the current active cases that will result in more deaths, so I think the final number will be close to around 1%. But even if magically 0 of the thousands of people currently infected died, 0.6% is still pretty high.
If half of the US got infected that would be about a million deaths.
llien
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It also ignores non-hospital deaths.
MisterFalcon
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How can the percentage of positive results go down in 5 days ?
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Djau
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Exasperation Grows Over Delays Trying To Sign Up For Unemployment, 'People Have No Food, People Are Talking About Suicide'
Many New York and New Jersey residents are losing hope, and are out of cash.newyork.cbslocal.com
Man, post-WW2 America fucks up at everything.
llien
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Vaccine news, in Indian vaccine production capacity we trust:
India is among the largest manufacturer of generic drugs and vaccines in the world. It is home to half a dozen major vaccine makers and a host of smaller ones, making doses against polio, meningitis, pneumonia, rotavirus, BCG, measles, mumps and rubella, among other diseases. Now half a dozen Indian firms are developing vaccines against the virus that causes Covid-19.
One of them is Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine maker by number of doses produced and sold globally... Now the firm has stitched up collaboration with Codagenix, an American biotech company, to develop a "live attenuated" vaccine, among the more than 80 reportedly in development all over the world... "We are planning a set of animal trials [on mice and primates] of this vaccine in April. By September, we should be able to begin human trials," Adar Poonawalla, chief executive officer of Serum Institute of India, told me over the phone. Mr Poonawalla's firm has also partnered to mass produce a vaccine being developed by the University of Oxford and backed by the UK government...
"It's pretty clear the world is going to need hundreds of millions of doses, ideally by the end of this year, to end this pandemic, to lead us out of lockdown," Prof Adrian Hill, who runs the Jenner Institute at Oxford, told the BBC's Health and Science correspondent James Gallagher. This is where Indian vaccine makers have a head start over others. Mr Poonawalla's firm alone has an extra capacity of 400 to 500 million doses. "We have lots of capacity as we have invested in it," he says.
There's more. Hyderabad-based Bharat Biotech had announced a partnership with the University of Wisconsin Madison and US-based firm FluGen to make almost 300 million doses of a vaccine for global distribution. Zydus Cadilla is working on two vaccines, while Biological E, Indian Immunologicals, and Mynvax are developing a vaccine each. Another four or five home-grown vaccines are in early stages of development.
Meanwhile in UK:
In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead
In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University. From a report: Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety. But scientists at the university's Jenner Institute had a running start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations -- including one last year against an earlier coronavirus -- were harmless to humans. That has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month, hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works. The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September -- at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts -- if it proves to be effective.
Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might. Scientists at the National Institutes of Health's Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine. The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus that is causing the pandemic -- exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher who conducted the test. "The rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans," Dr. Munster said, noting that scientists were still analyzing the result. He said he expected to share it with other scientists next week and then submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.
India is among the largest manufacturer of generic drugs and vaccines in the world. It is home to half a dozen major vaccine makers and a host of smaller ones, making doses against polio, meningitis, pneumonia, rotavirus, BCG, measles, mumps and rubella, among other diseases. Now half a dozen Indian firms are developing vaccines against the virus that causes Covid-19.
One of them is Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine maker by number of doses produced and sold globally... Now the firm has stitched up collaboration with Codagenix, an American biotech company, to develop a "live attenuated" vaccine, among the more than 80 reportedly in development all over the world... "We are planning a set of animal trials [on mice and primates] of this vaccine in April. By September, we should be able to begin human trials," Adar Poonawalla, chief executive officer of Serum Institute of India, told me over the phone. Mr Poonawalla's firm has also partnered to mass produce a vaccine being developed by the University of Oxford and backed by the UK government...
"It's pretty clear the world is going to need hundreds of millions of doses, ideally by the end of this year, to end this pandemic, to lead us out of lockdown," Prof Adrian Hill, who runs the Jenner Institute at Oxford, told the BBC's Health and Science correspondent James Gallagher. This is where Indian vaccine makers have a head start over others. Mr Poonawalla's firm alone has an extra capacity of 400 to 500 million doses. "We have lots of capacity as we have invested in it," he says.
There's more. Hyderabad-based Bharat Biotech had announced a partnership with the University of Wisconsin Madison and US-based firm FluGen to make almost 300 million doses of a vaccine for global distribution. Zydus Cadilla is working on two vaccines, while Biological E, Indian Immunologicals, and Mynvax are developing a vaccine each. Another four or five home-grown vaccines are in early stages of development.
Meanwhile in UK:
In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead
In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University. From a report: Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety. But scientists at the university's Jenner Institute had a running start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations -- including one last year against an earlier coronavirus -- were harmless to humans. That has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month, hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works. The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September -- at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts -- if it proves to be effective.
Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might. Scientists at the National Institutes of Health's Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine. The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus that is causing the pandemic -- exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher who conducted the test. "The rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans," Dr. Munster said, noting that scientists were still analyzing the result. He said he expected to share it with other scientists next week and then submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.
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Chittagong
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6,000 people trialing the vaccine by end of next month is wild, surely beyond anybody's expectations . Thank you based monkies
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These Antibody Tests are really difficult to put weight on. I don't know how they did the tests, but if everyone can go and get a test, it's pretty clear that people go that had some kind of symptoms in the last weeks. I think, Nevertheless. 15%-20% seems to be about right in New York. We've had 15% in a study in germany.
Chittagong
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It was a pretty big sample, over 7,000 people but the key question is whether they self-selected or were randomly picked.
But even randomly surveying people in eg. supermarkets would give a lower than real percentage since it'd be weighed towards people who are not consciously self-isolating.
MisterFalcon
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You would have to force people to take part in a test for it to be truly random. Giving blood is an unpleasant experience and people who have been ill will be far more motivated to agree to a person asking them to be tested in the street so they know if they are now possibly immune.
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Well, I got a job during these trying times. I'll be ferrying COVID-19 patients to and from the hospital starting soon. This is a shuttle program started by my city (don't want to say). But starting next week I'll be getting calls to pick people up and deliver them to hospitals. I don't get health insurance (which sucks) but it does pay 22/hour and 100 extra if I do more than 20 hours a week (I'd like to do more than that). Pay is time to pick up and drop off. Plus coming back to my house. So if they live two hours away I get paid two hours to go get them, two hours back. Plus about 10 minutes afterwards for cleaning the car. They outfitted my car with a sort of isolation pod in the passenger seat plus will give me PPE as well for my troubles. So all in all not too shabby. But contracting COVID-19 just got exponentially higher for me because I took this job (I'm one of those that doesn't get unemployment or the stimulus check so I have had a hard time up until now). Anyways, wish me luck, all.
Collz69
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Well, I got a job during these trying times. I'll be ferrying COVID-19 patients to and from the hospital starting soon. This is a shuttle program started by my city (don't want to say). But starting next week I'll be getting calls to pick people up and deliver them to hospitals. I don't get health insurance (which sucks) but it does pay 22/hour and 100 extra if I do more than 20 hours a week (I'd like to do more than that). Pay is time to pick up and drop off. Plus coming back to my house. So if they live two hours away I get paid two hours to go get them, two hours back. Plus about 10 minutes afterwards for cleaning the car. They outfitted my car with a sort of isolation pod in the passenger seat plus will give me PPE as well for my troubles. So all in all not too shabby. But contracting COVID-19 just got exponentially higher for me because I took this job (I'm one of those that doesn't get unemployment or the stimulus check so I have had a hard time up until now). Anyways, wish me luck, all.
This is how Clark Griswold would have done it
JordanN
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If it was me, I would honestly have gone with a small Limo or a Van.
Even though that setup looks decent enough, I still feel like the risk of the virus reaching the driver is high. Just look at this seatbelt area for example.
Regardless, good luck.
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Well, I got a job during these trying times. I'll be ferrying COVID-19 patients to and from the hospital starting soon. This is a shuttle program started by my city (don't want to say). But starting next week I'll be getting calls to pick people up and deliver them to hospitals. I don't get health insurance (which sucks) but it does pay 22/hour and 100 extra if I do more than 20 hours a week (I'd like to do more than that). Pay is time to pick up and drop off. Plus coming back to my house. So if they live two hours away I get paid two hours to go get them, two hours back. Plus about 10 minutes afterwards for cleaning the car. They outfitted my car with a sort of isolation pod in the passenger seat plus will give me PPE as well for my troubles. So all in all not too shabby. But contracting COVID-19 just got exponentially higher for me because I took this job (I'm one of those that doesn't get unemployment or the stimulus check so I have had a hard time up until now). Anyways, wish me luck, all.
Tip: Keep your windows open to keep a good air flow through the car so that anything nasty can't stay in with you.
Lanrutcon
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Well yeah, the only way to stop the Virus is by killing it via herd immunity or an vaccine.
Still, we are pretty early in all of this. Scientists all around the world are studying this damn thing and we get new evidence every week/days. WHo knows where we are at in 3 Months from now.
Likely constrained in some form for years! But it's not to bad in The Netherlands, we should not complain being in war like ww1 and 2 is much worse.
I think this will be a the pattern world wide. As we in the Netherlands only have 25% contact left with others.
So what lock down really is, get it down to manageable levels. And when you reopen it pop ups in spots which you can manage . Likely to last until a vaccine or herd immunity. After all this they found only 3 % was immune in some ways here in the Netherlands.
So I don't know if you want all these deaths in pursuit.
Schattenjäger
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immune or had antibodies? those are two separate things
The Scrivener
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If it was me, I would honestly have gone with a small Limo or a Van.
Even though that setup looks decent enough, I still feel like the risk of the virus reaching the driver is high. Just look at this seatbelt area for example.
Regardless, good luck.
That's not a hole. It bends.
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Sakura
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Yeah I'm not sure how accurate they are or how well they represent the population as a sample size, but a death rate of around 1% seems right from all the other data (cruise ships and the like).
It all blurred, they talked about immune in some manner .. that's what's reported . How long etc. not communicated yet.
cryptoadam
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REEEE for the win.
Once Trump mentions this experts going to have to tell us not to cut off our penis and do self sex change surgeries.
Tiamat2san
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In France , if the numbers continue to decline schools will reopen as will non essential stores on may 11.
Each store need to prevent contact and keep social distancing and provide masks and gel for every worker.
They can mandate costumers to wear masks.
Bars and restaurants will stay close until June 2.
They want to do up to 700K / week.
And isolate positive cases at home or in a hotel.
Transport between regions only for professionals.
Each store need to prevent contact and keep social distancing and provide masks and gel for every worker.
They can mandate costumers to wear masks.
Bars and restaurants will stay close until June 2.
They want to do up to 700K / week.
And isolate positive cases at home or in a hotel.
Transport between regions only for professionals.
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Kittehkraken
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Horrible but not surprising, NY hospitals went through absolute hell.
An ER doctor from New York released a diary in the NY Times a few weeks back. Its horrifying.
I’m an E.R. Doctor in New York. None of Us Will Ever Be the Same. (Published 2020)
A Covid diary: This is what I saw as the pandemic engulfed our hospitals.
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Insane Metal
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Brazil is going go get some pretty bad numbers today.
SP state has already released their numbers from the last 24h: 224 deaths and 2.300 confirmed cases. That's the highest so far, by far.
SP state has already released their numbers from the last 24h: 224 deaths and 2.300 confirmed cases. That's the highest so far, by far.
Exasperation Grows Over Delays Trying To Sign Up For Unemployment, 'People Have No Food, People Are Talking About Suicide'
Many New York and New Jersey residents are losing hope, and are out of cash.
My father, who is self-employed, has yet to receive ANYTHING from the state or federal government that I applied for for him: not NY state unemployment (took 3+ weeks to receive a call-back on that, and now 2 weeks later he still hasn't seen a dime), not the federal SBA loans for small businesses (which explicitly states that it applies to self-employed folks and contractors - there has been ZERO email communication since completing the application a few weeks ago), nor the Pandemic Relief Fund. He hasn't even gotten his stimulus money yet, despite being over 65 and on Social Security. It's a joke. He's an American citizen who has paid taxes all his life.
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Moogle11
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Or it could end up like the flu and be another thing with multiple strains and yearly vaccines that work better some years than other based on their prediction of which strain(s) will be most active.
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From what i've read ( and i'm no expert ofc) this irus seems to be very stable. Meaning that it won't mutate as much as the FLU for example.
Thing has two side: On one side, this means developing a vaccine is a lot easier. On the other side, this deadly virus will not change into something more tame.
Coronavirus: what are the latest scientific advances?
From antibody testing to virus mutations, here’s what we have learned this week
www.theguardian.com
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Moogle11
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From what i've read ( and i'm no expert ofc) this irus seems to be very stable. Meaning that it won't mutate as much as the FLU for example.
Thing has two side: On one side, this means developing a vaccine is a lot easier. On the other side, this deadly virus will not change into something more tame.
Coronavirus: what are the latest scientific advances?
From antibody testing to virus mutations, here’s what we have learned this week
Yeah, someone posted similar info earlier so I'm hopefully. Probably still to soon to tell for sure, but defintely seems more like than not that we can get a lasting vaccine.
cryptoadam
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So this is a graph of deaths in Quebec. Green line is in the community and blue line is in senior homes.
I have posted about the situation in Quebec and the horrors that have gone on in what we call CHLSD's. Well here it is in graph form. You can see that in the community we are averaging about 10 deaths a day. But when you look at the seniors homes you see the huge spike.
Chaplain
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Hey, I thought you would want to know that you made a mistake regarding Mr. Ferguson. The video that I shared was about Niall Ferguson, not Neil Ferguson.
This is Niall Ferguson:
This is Neil Ferguson:
That said, I recommend watching Niall Ferguson's video on COVID-19. ^_~
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darkestdame
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Fun Fanboy
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Wow... we're F'd in Cali. This governor and this doctor. What a freaking sham. They keep showing charts and it's flat as hell. And yet still the scare words and keeping us shut down. F this!
The Scrivener
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Well surely that's not racist then. If the 5% lost their jobs because of the lockdown, the lockdown was a draconian overreaction, no?
Glad to see you agree!
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The Scrivener
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That Californian doctor duo video about the lockdown has been banned from media channels apparently. Didn't get to watch it personally, but apparently it included some alternative viewpoint and hope, which we can't have now can we.
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darkestdame
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Nah that was just more context on where the "get back to work!" cries are mostly coming from.
The Scrivener
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I'm not American, so I can't really speak, but shouldn't the country try to be a bit more united? The media, especially this Brainy McBrainpants Jim Tankersley, are telling you that all white people despise all black people.
I wonder how we could fix that problem... I wonder what the virus is here... I wonder if the statistic is true that the colour of the skin is at fault here...
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darkestdame
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I wouldn't expect it. People have been taught to work and give their bodies to multinational corporations, and to despise "lazy" people who currently aren't rushing back into the workforce.
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