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Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1 + 2 will suport 1440p@120FPS on Xbox Series X / 1080p@120FPS on PS5 / 4K@60FPS on both
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MasterCornholio
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Well it's odd that it's 4K @ 60FPs then. It should be 1800P @ 60FPs to reflect the power gap. I guess once the resolution gets higher things change for some odd reason.
bender
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VisualFidelity
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PS5 is 1080p @120fps because PS5 doesnt support 1440p resolution. Why would devs program 1440p 120fps for PS5 if it doesnt support it?
Thats my guess why Xbox is 1440p 120fps and PS5 isnt
Thats my guess why Xbox is 1440p 120fps and PS5 isnt
Silent Viper
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Tower of Power baby
Don't think they are advertising output resolution but rendering resolution so they could probably have used 1440p if they wanted to.
In terms of why the 4K60 parity, it could be possible that the performance on the xsx/PS5 at the resolution wasn't close or stable enough for 120fps so they just capped it at the 60 fps.
Silent Viper
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PS5 doesn't output 1440p but internal resolution can be 1440p. System will just downscale or upscale the output based on TV resolution.
Silent Viper
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Who is this guy btw. He very popular on Gaf lol
Is this due to the ps5 not supporting 1440p?
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Bittermich
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4K@60fps is not demanding. 120fps is much more demanding. XSX could easily output higher res than 4K@60fps.
That's why we see the difference at 120fps, because it's much more demanding. 4K@60fps is already the cap.
TaiLopezFan
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This is because PS5 doesn't support 1440p. That's why 60 FPS res is the same on both consoles. Looking forward to the update.
Nope.
It doesnt support native output on 1440p screens but it sure does support 1440p res in games and upscales them on 4k screen.
I mean...didnt Miles Morales had 1440p60 mode?
Also Demons Souls 2 perfomance mode is 1440p60.
Play Uncharted 4 or TLOU2 and your PS5 will play it at 1440p.
Jaysen
Banned
It will never not be stupid for Sony not to support that resolution.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's interesting to see newer games perform much better than the launch games. 1080p vs 1440p is massive difference. That's 3.7 million pixels vs 2.1 million pixels. Or roughly 76% more pixels. Way more than the 18% tflops difference suggests.
Cernys variable clocks coming back to bite him in the ass?
Not sure why the difference is so massive otherwise. The avengers 100% gap doesn't seem to be a one off thing either. Re8 was also using checkerboard 4k. If the xsx turns out to be using native 4k like avengers, things are going to get very ugly around here.
Cernys variable clocks coming back to bite him in the ass?
Not sure why the difference is so massive otherwise. The avengers 100% gap doesn't seem to be a one off thing either. Re8 was also using checkerboard 4k. If the xsx turns out to be using native 4k like avengers, things are going to get very ugly around here.
Mister Wolf
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Over 70% increase in resolution is nothing to sneeze at.
bender
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TaiLopezFan
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RE8 uses reconstruction 4k not checkerboard on PS5 demo that is almost exactly the same as DMC 5 on XSX and PS5 in it's native 4k mode. Avangers uses checkerboard on PS5 but on XSX it is DRS with lower resolution on XSX. Tony Hawks is 1080p because PS5 doesn't support 1440p that's why both consoles are same resolution in 60 FPS mode.
Also are we forgetting AC Valhalla XSX 1188p vs PS5 1440p lowest bound resolution or Immortals Fenyx Rising Dynamic 4k vs Native 4k.
Mister Wolf
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Why does Demon Souls and Spiderman have a 1440p 60fps mode on PS5?
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
120fps is more demanding? lol
If you're running a game at 4k 60fps, then you're bound to get in the triple digits in FPS while running at 1440p.
The Xbox Series S runs at 1440p and probably 60fps. The PS5 should be able to run it at 1440p. I'm going to guess that this is because that the PS4 Pro doesn't support 1440p.
Patience is a good quality to have ...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ps5 not supporting 1440p displays has nothing to do rendering 1440p resolution. You are mistaken.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
PlayStation 5 doesn't support 1440p @ 120hz, It supports 1080p @ 120hz.
If you're running Tony Hawk at 120hz 1440p on the PlayStation 5, it will display at 1080p 120hz. This is the likely cause of the game running at 1080p because the PlayStation 5 doesn't support 120hz\1440p.
It works with Spider-Man and Demon Souls because the TV does support 1440p and it will upscale to 4K at 60fps.
The Pleasure
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So here I am
Updating everything I can
Let me remind you who I am
Because I'm a superman
I'm trying to sleep
Lost count of Ps
Seems like the console wars are raging all around me.
The nights are Long
The consoles are so strong
Trying to make these upgrades more a maybe?
Updating everything I can
Let me remind you who I am
Because I'm a superman
I'm trying to sleep
Lost count of Ps
Seems like the console wars are raging all around me.
The nights are Long
The consoles are so strong
Trying to make these upgrades more a maybe?
Cockles & Whelks
Banned
Last gen games struggled to do 60 FPS, much less at native 4K. Now people are expecting 120fps when most don't even have monitors or TV to do 120fps ....
I would be happy if most games did 1080p at 60fps with Ray tracing. It's like this gen just jumped over 1080p so prematurely.
1080x60+RT should be an option on all games for lush all the bells and whistles mode.
ArtemisClydeFrog
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The Pleasure
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Tell me what to do.
Sometimes I want to throw money all away.
So here I am growing older all the time. Growing older all the time
Playing Fortnite in my mind
So here I am doing everything I can
Using Mouse with Old ass games
Pretending I'm a superman.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It would be on any current platformI'm spoiled because this is low res on both platforms...
DeaconOfTheDank
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This is possibly a case of the variable rate clock speeds on the PS5.
120fps is usually pretty heavy on the CPU (and possibly GPU, depending on resolution). Even if your GPU can render enough frames for a given resolution, if your CPU can't keep up then you are effectively bottlenecked by the CPU. This applies to any resolution. That doesn't mean that PS5 can't achieve 120fps; it's a matter of competing for resources.
Let's forget about what resolution the PS5 can output to a display and just consider 1440p internal resolution. With a resolution like 1440p and framerate of 120fps, both the GPU and CPU have their work cut out for them. In the case of the PS5, both the CPU and GPU require high clock speeds (among other things) to output frames quickly enough to keep within the 120fps target. Unfortunately, because of the nature of variable clock speeds in the PS5, either the CPU or GPU can't maintain a clock speed high enough to meet a consistent 1440p@120fps. They cripple each other.
Of course, this is just speculation. Are there any good examples of games where the PS5 is outputing 1440p@120fps?
120fps is usually pretty heavy on the CPU (and possibly GPU, depending on resolution). Even if your GPU can render enough frames for a given resolution, if your CPU can't keep up then you are effectively bottlenecked by the CPU. This applies to any resolution. That doesn't mean that PS5 can't achieve 120fps; it's a matter of competing for resources.
Let's forget about what resolution the PS5 can output to a display and just consider 1440p internal resolution. With a resolution like 1440p and framerate of 120fps, both the GPU and CPU have their work cut out for them. In the case of the PS5, both the CPU and GPU require high clock speeds (among other things) to output frames quickly enough to keep within the 120fps target. Unfortunately, because of the nature of variable clock speeds in the PS5, either the CPU or GPU can't maintain a clock speed high enough to meet a consistent 1440p@120fps. They cripple each other.
Of course, this is just speculation. Are there any good examples of games where the PS5 is outputing 1440p@120fps?
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ArtemisClydeFrog
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Let's be real, the game released for $40 ($50 for deluxe version). It went on pretty good sales within weeks. AT MOST, you're paying for a full-priced game. Ya'll complaining about that are probably the same ones who spend $1000+ every year on those basic ass Marvel/DC movies.
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Zoro7
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I mean for one don't talk like you know me because you don't.
And yes whilst most companies are giving free upgrades (im yet to pay for one) I think its ridiculous they are charging for this. Given how "basic ass" the game is.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Isnt the console still outputting it a t the resolution you set though, the 1440p is the resolution it's rended at but the console would upscale it so the ps5 can still render it at 1440p
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Maybe the game doesn't push either console @4k 60fps but when the frame rate goes higher it's pushing the consoles harder and xbox was just able to render higher res
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It will display at 1440p, but you're only going to see 1440p 60fps.
This would be meaningless if there's already a 4K 60fps mode. This means the game will display at 1080p 120hz because that's what the console supports.
If you're getting 60fps at 4K, then you're going to get a frame-rate increase at 1440p.
Esppiral
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What you say makes no sense PS4 Pro doesn't support 1440p either yet most Pro enhanced games run at 1440p also have you heard of a game called Demon Souls for the Ps5?
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BLAUcopter
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Xbox and LG CX pumping that 1440P / 120fps straight into my face. Mamma.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
The console supports rendering at 1440p but the output will be scaled to what you set it at and it will upscale or downscale depending on that
Again...nope. Its not 1440p diaplayed as 1080p...
It displays 1080p because the game runs internally at 1080p.
Games like CoD or DMC run 120fps modes on PS5 with higher resolution than 1080p so clearly PS5 supports resolutions above 1080p@120.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
If you look back the unreal5 demo was 1440p so the ps5 can render it, just will scale to settings you put the output to
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Funny because so far we have seen PS5 performing better in higher frame rate modes than XSX, i.e., COD, Destiny, DMC5, etc.
and we know exactly why it was performing better the only problem was that many didn't want to accept what everyone including the devs was saying.
ps. with that i'm not saying that there will be no more games that perform better on ps5. there will still be some but they will be increasingly rare
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
What were the devs saying?