Rainforest emitting more c02 than it absorbs now?

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It's the deforested parts that are emitting CO2. The strategy is the same, nothing has changed, those dead trees need to be replaced with new trees.
 
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What a crappy article. They twist the words to cause this kind of confusion. These parts don't emit more than they absord. They claim that deforestation is emitting more carbon than the amount of carbon the new trees that grow back are absorbing and possibly are able to absorb.
 
It blows my mind that people actually think that you can give Leo DiCaprio and his friends boatloads of taxpayer dollars and they'll just wave a magic wand to fix the climate.
Biggest swindle in our history.
No one will ever know where that money really goes and there's no way to prove or disprove that anything was accomplished.
 
johntown said:
Are we impacting the climate? Sure of course no doubt there. I just don't believe it is as dire as some people would have you believe.
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If catastrophic and irreversible climate change happens later than one guy predicted, does that mean we should continue to ignore it until it truly is immanent? That's some seriously bad logic there.
 
johntown said:
Are we impacting the climate? Sure of course no doubt there. I just don't believe it is as dire as some people would have you believe.
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you should read his climate awareness report made in the 80s and then come back here after. Spoiler alert : most of what was predicted in it actually happened at a faster rate. Don't be a melvin
 
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ArtemisClydeFrog said:
Did you read the title of the article you posted or the first couple sentences of it at least? It gives you the answer. Wtf op
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Best way to clean up a nuclear power plant leak is with a nuclear bomb. No power plant, no more life to worry about, just a tidy crater. I'm so happy that our youth are being educated on Twitter now, instead of those pesky classrooms. Surely we can only go up from here.
 
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2020 Arctic Sea Ice Minimum at Second Lowest on Record – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

This year’s Arctic sea ice cover shrank to the second lowest extent since modern record-keeping began in the late 1970s, at 1.44 million square miles (3.74 million square kilometers).
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The Earth goes through different cycles of warm and cold. Scientists and computers only PREDICT what they think might happen. That does not mean it is fact or that they are not wrong.
 
SF Kosmo said:
If catastrophic and irreversible climate change happens later than one guy predicted, does that mean we should continue to ignore it until it truly is immanent? That's some seriously bad logic there.
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It won't happen so you have nothing to worry about.
 
V4skunk said:
The globalists want you all to think c02 plant food kills the planet.
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To be clear, the planet will be fine, but some of the things that live on it, like for example, humans who have built 80% of their population on coasts and waterways, probably not so much.
 
SF Kosmo said:
That's a nonsense take. The ice sheets are still melting at an ever-increasing rate, even as non-manmade factors like solar irradiance decline (i.e. it should be getting colder, but it's not).
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Maybe they will gain again as they have done before. You cannot say that they won't.
 
johntown said:
It won't happen so you have nothing to worry about.
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well random_internet_guy_01 told me that global warming isn't real so I guess we can pack it up, folks

Reality Czar said:
So cool that politics are no longer allowed but the climate cultists have a safe space.
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Making science political is one of the dumbest things imaginable.

Of course it's been happening since the dawn of time... so carry on.
 
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johntown said:
The Earth goes through different cycles of warm and cold. Scientists and computers only PREDICT what they think might happen. That does not mean it is fact or that they are not wrong.
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The weatherman and news forecasts cant even get it it right the day before. Tomorrow calls for rain. None.

So even with all the fancy computers doing all the crunching numbers and direction of air currents and shit to tell the city what will happen in the next 24 hours can be wrong.

So for any of them to predict what happens in 20 years, I'd put zero money on it.
 
johntown said:
Maybe they will gain again as they have done before. You cannot say that they won't.
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Here's the problem: Yes, non-manmade factors like solar irradiance can cause the earth to get colder.

BUT THEY ALREADY ARE. The earth should be getting colder right now. Which means more than 100% of the warming we're seeing is man-made.

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No it isn't. The Earth goes through periods of warm and cold and what is happening is nothing abnormal.
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We're going into a cold cycle and the earth is getting hotter, how do you not get that that's abnormal?

It's like if there's a fire burning in your house, and you go "Fuck it's hot, I wonder if it's this fire," and someone goes, "Dude, it just gets hot and cold sometimes, that's normal, every August is hot," BUT IT'S FUCKING NOVEMBER AND YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE.
 
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So glad we got rid of the politics section so all the conspiracy theorists can infect the rest of the site with their crazy nonsense.

So glad that so many of our members all happen to be virologists, climate scientists and doctors. I've learned so much today, I just can't believe that all the things my crazy uncle reads on Facebook happen to be true!
 
StreetsofBeige said:
The weatherman and news forecasts cant even get it it right the day before. Tomorrow calls for rain. None.

So even with all the fancy computers doing all the crunching numbers and direction of air currents and shit to tell the city what will happen in the next 24 hours can be wrong.

So for any of them to predict what happens in 20 years, I'd put zero money on it.
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...what is data analysis, Alex.

Scientists have mountains of data to analyze and see trends. It's much different than daily weather. I will say that the global climate crisis has become political and some reports have got it wrong.

It is an issue but not as prevalent as some extremist make it out to be. It doesn't me we shouldn't discuss it and work to stop it before it gets worse.

And if we are wrong and it's all a conspiracy so what? We end up making the world a better place as we learn to live in a more symbiotic way. There is nothing wrong with that.
 
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SF Kosmo said:
Here's the problem: Yes, non-manmade factors like solar irradiance can cause the earth to get colder.

BUT THEY ALREADY ARE. The earth should be getting colder right now. Which means more than 100% of the warming we're seeing is man-made.
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I agree that humans have contributed to warming, but how much who knows.

To give an example of how way off people are, 40 years ago people were amping up the narrative oil is running out. In 2021, were all still humming and based on new oil discoveries, the oil reserves are maybe even growing. Of course, theres only so much oil on earth so you cant keep finding hidden oil reserves forever.

But it shows how totally off scientists are.
 
SF Kosmo said:
Here's the problem: Yes, non-manmade factors like solar irradiance can cause the earth to get colder.

BUT THEY ALREADY ARE. The earth should be getting colder right now. Which means more than 100% of the warming we're seeing is man-made.
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I didn't realize I was speaking to god here. I'm glad you know everything 100% so none of us need to think or question anything anymore.
 
johntown said:
I didn't realize I was speaking to god here. I'm glad you know everything 100% so none of us need to think or question anything anymore.
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Trust me, dude, you "thinking too much" is not a concern.

There are reams of scientific papers about us going into a cold period. Climate deniers like to point to headlines from the 70s worrying about the "new ice age" as evidence scientists don't know shit about climate, except it's true, solar irradiance has gone down, we're just heating the earth up faster than that...

StreetsofBeige said:
I agree that humans have contributed to warming, but how much who knows.

To give an example of how way off people are, 40 years ago people were amping up the narrative oil is running out. In 2021, were all still humming and based on new oil discoveries, the oil reserves are maybe even growing. Of course, theres only so much oil on earth so you cant keep finding hidden oil reserves forever.

But it shows how totally off scientists are.
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But if we know oil is going to run out and the ice shelves are going to melt, why are we haggling about the scheduling instead of doing anything about it?
 
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SF Kosmo said:
Trust me, dude, you "thinking too much" is not a concern.

There are reams of scientific papers about us going into a cold period. Climate deniers like to point to headlines from the 70s worrying about the "new ice age" as evidence scientists don't know shit about climate, except it's true, solar irradiance has gone down, we're just heating the earth up faster than that...
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They are just theories. We don't know enough to accurately state what will or will not happen. We are only taking guesses based on the limited amount we know.
 
johntown said:
They are just theories. We don't know enough to accurately state what will or will not happen. We are only taking guesses based on the limited amount we know.
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I'll take an informed guess over a completely baseless hope that it'll all work out "somehow."

The stakes for being wrong here are pretty high and there's not a lot of evidence for the "It'll be fine" scenario.
 
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You people aren't paying attention. People like him need a better example than pictures of ice. He doesn't care about the ice. What are the actual effects of that ice decreasing? Gotta be more than less ice in pictures.
 
SF Kosmo said:
That's a nonsense take. The ice sheets are still melting at an ever-increasing rate, even as non-manmade factors like solar irradiance decline (i.e. it should be getting colder, but it's not).
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Ice sheets melting doesn't make the water rise. Ice caps sliding off the land into water does.
It's like how when you climb into a bath you displace the water.
 
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