HeisenbergFX4
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Only another 18 months or so of thisthe back and forth in this thread.................
Microsoft: Call of Duty and other popular AB games will continue to be released on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms beyond current agreements
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mansoor1980
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18 months only? should last forever i reckonOnly another 18 months or so of this
laynelane
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Craig of War
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It has already happen with Starfield and Redfall wile existing GAAS will stay multiplat as it make the most money that way
why are you still thinking NEW IP and single player game from Bethesda or Activision will come to other platform your thinking is way off from reality
Swift_Star
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because you have no way to know this. All you have is wishful thinking.
kingfey
Banned
New IP is excusive. Since it doesn't have player base. Only existence games like COD, Overwatch is multiplatform.
Craig of War
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It not wishful thinking it already happen Starfield is and so will TES6 and Fallout 5 let it go man
Mobile Suit Gooch
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Swift_Star
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There's no way to be certain of that. Give up.
Swift_Star
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You're the one who should let it go. You don't know anything. Unless you can bring some receipts and proof, just stop.
kingfey
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ask starfield.
There was incentives for COD. But new IPs are of the table. Even the FTC cant do nothing about that, since they are brand new games, that never existed on either console.
BlitzerRadic
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Let's be real. The green rats are prolly right on this one.
The only reason why existing ActiBlizz games on PS are going to remain multiplat is because MS would rather do that than possibly risk the chance of the regulators placing even more onerous contingencies on the sale.
I dont expect any new IP from ActiBlizz or Bethesda games on PS going forward.
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Craig of War
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I already shown you proof that Starfield is exclusive and here is proof bout Elder Scrolls 6
Phil Spencer basically confirms The Elder Scrolls VI is an Xbox exclusive
We still don’t know when it’s coming, though.
www.theverge.com
what more Proof? do you need
Ezekiel_
Banned
I'm with you.
Microsoft could fully transition to third party publisher and release a Playstation Gamepass version with only Microsoft studio games. They would have a chance of increasing their sub counts and I'm sure Sony wouldn't mind getting the 30% cut, just like they do with EA Play.
GhostOfTsu
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The Green Rats were saying the same thing about COD just last week. You never know what will happen in 2026+ when ES6 comes out. The industry is changing real fast.I already shown you proof that Starfield is exclusive and here is proof bout Elder Scrolls 6
Phil Spencer basically confirms The Elder Scrolls VI is an Xbox exclusive
We still don’t know when it’s coming, though.
what more Proof? do you need
Not that I care either way before you accuse me of port-begging or whatever is the new catch phrase you guys use.
kingfey
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Sony could do the same with Spartacus, since they are leaving alot of money on the table.
Ass of Can Whooping
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It's not leaving money on the table. Unless Sony want to do something stupid like competing with MS on the netflix for gaming front. Otherwise that's the last thing they should be doing
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Think he was trying to state the stupidity of 'leaving money on the table' argument. Every company could make more money in the short term if they sacrifice the long term business model.
I think it's fundamentally about how you think Microsoft is trying to make money. If you think it's primarily about the subscription revenue, then maybe GP on PlayStation makes sense. If you think its about having 'storefronts' where you are taking a cut, you might not. It gets more complicated if you consider certain games as 'stores' best shown by Roblox.
DarthPutin
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For people still in denial for some sad reason: MS had business talks with Sony about this acquisition. Do you believe PlayStation let them get away with some world salad, failing to ask concrete questions? Or did MS promise to keep COD on PlayStation in the future, but muttered under their breath "*cough*butonlyongamepass*cough*) and nobody heard them?
If not, do you think MS told one thing to Sony in private conversations and different thing to FTC in this article? Because if they made public statement that 90% of regular people will translate as future COD titles releasing on PlayStation, yet told Sony something completely different, you'd think the latter would do/say something about it, no?
One has to assume that surface reading of this statement fits very well with more exact promises made to Sony in private. Would MS try to mislead their business partners and FTC? Doubtful.
They can still very successfully milk COD on XBOX as "best place to play", from advertisement to exclusive perks to it being "free" on Gamepass.
If not, do you think MS told one thing to Sony in private conversations and different thing to FTC in this article? Because if they made public statement that 90% of regular people will translate as future COD titles releasing on PlayStation, yet told Sony something completely different, you'd think the latter would do/say something about it, no?
One has to assume that surface reading of this statement fits very well with more exact promises made to Sony in private. Would MS try to mislead their business partners and FTC? Doubtful.
They can still very successfully milk COD on XBOX as "best place to play", from advertisement to exclusive perks to it being "free" on Gamepass.
kingfey
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Then MS shouldn't do the same.
People are expecting one company to do that, while not asking the other company to do the same thing. That is not how things work. Even if MS is going for 3rd party route, they have no reason to put their stuff on other devices, aside of tv, mobile, pc, and Xbox.
SportsFan581
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So, if on 11/11/22 there is no PS5 version of Starfield are we allowed to call it an exclusive?
Sssh.... you know it's only money on the table when it is PS users being left out. Sony is absolutely leaving nothing on the table when they opted to exclude 55m Xbox users from TLoU2. You know how this works.
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Swift_Star
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No one is talking about Starfield.
SportsFan581
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Are you sure? Because I think you've been dismissing those who have rightfully pointed it out as an example of new IP being made exclusive.
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Swift_Star
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That doesn't mean A/B new IP will be exclusive. That's all I'm saying. You don't know. Nobody knows. The deal hasn't even been through yet.Are you sure? Because I think you've been dismissing those who have rightfully pointed it out as an example of new IP being made exclusive.
lastmessiah
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What? PlayStation has zero leverage with MS. MS will literally own AB, why would they give a fuck what Sony "lets them get away with"?
SportsFan581
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Agreed. That's the most hilarious claim I've seen yet. Now Sony is in position to "let" MS do things.
MS has $3b on the line here. There is one group that has a lot of outside pull at MS right now, and that is the FTC and not Sony.
Ass of Can Whooping
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MS's end goal is being hardware agnostic so yeah that's a reason they would do that. That's not Sony's goal, or if it is then they'll fail.
This isn't fanboy shit. No one is expecting MS to do anything
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Good job misconstructing the argument
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If MS is making COD multiplat then Starfield and especially the next Elder Scrolls or Doom need to be multiplatform too. These are just just devs they acquired. they are entire publishers.
If they want to be a multiplat publisher then go all the way. Making CoD multiplat while leaving Starfield exclusive makes no sense, and if this was to appease the regulators then the regulators will simply point to starfield and ask the same questions we are asking here. "Why CoD and not starfield?", "Are you just saying it to get the deal through?"
This is why acquiring publishers is just a dumb idea. If you want content, go and get more independent developers like Ninja Theory and Obsidian. There are plenty of devs out there waiting to be acquired. CD Project, Respawn was just sold for pennies, Techland, From Software, Quantic Dream. Supergiant games made it big with Hades. Well, now they need to pull a Returnal and make a 3D AAA rougelike Hades 2 with Sony and Microsoft's money. The potential is massive. GOTY winning IP. talented studio. Fantastic writer in Greg Kasavin. THIS is who you guy and buy. Studios that need your money to make it big. Capcom, SE and Activision dont need handouts or bailouts. Its a gigantic waste of money.
CD Project's current management stinks. They just suck at everything atm but there is talent there. Sony or MS can come and restructure them to be more productive and better at quality control. Remedy wouldve been a great pickup for either. Control is basically a next gen game released on last gen console. How people see that and think hey we should pass on these guys is beyond me. You buy the studio and invest millions to help them build bigger teams to make them more productive. This way they arent forced to go to chinese backers making shit like crossfirex.
Plague's Tale Innocence devs. 4A Games. Ueda's new studio in Japan. Invest in those studios and give people games with a higher quality, bigger and more prestige. CoD, Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Doom were always going to come to Xbox. They already have massive budgets. They dont need more investment or saving.
If they want to be a multiplat publisher then go all the way. Making CoD multiplat while leaving Starfield exclusive makes no sense, and if this was to appease the regulators then the regulators will simply point to starfield and ask the same questions we are asking here. "Why CoD and not starfield?", "Are you just saying it to get the deal through?"
This is why acquiring publishers is just a dumb idea. If you want content, go and get more independent developers like Ninja Theory and Obsidian. There are plenty of devs out there waiting to be acquired. CD Project, Respawn was just sold for pennies, Techland, From Software, Quantic Dream. Supergiant games made it big with Hades. Well, now they need to pull a Returnal and make a 3D AAA rougelike Hades 2 with Sony and Microsoft's money. The potential is massive. GOTY winning IP. talented studio. Fantastic writer in Greg Kasavin. THIS is who you guy and buy. Studios that need your money to make it big. Capcom, SE and Activision dont need handouts or bailouts. Its a gigantic waste of money.
CD Project's current management stinks. They just suck at everything atm but there is talent there. Sony or MS can come and restructure them to be more productive and better at quality control. Remedy wouldve been a great pickup for either. Control is basically a next gen game released on last gen console. How people see that and think hey we should pass on these guys is beyond me. You buy the studio and invest millions to help them build bigger teams to make them more productive. This way they arent forced to go to chinese backers making shit like crossfirex.
Plague's Tale Innocence devs. 4A Games. Ueda's new studio in Japan. Invest in those studios and give people games with a higher quality, bigger and more prestige. CoD, Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Doom were always going to come to Xbox. They already have massive budgets. They dont need more investment or saving.
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lastmessiah
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Ass of Can Whooping
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He has a point. The Zenimax aquistion will pop up in their investigation. There's no way it won't. Whether anything actually comes from that is anyone's guess
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SSfox
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Starfield will be Xbox exclusive for sure, even tho i don't think it's smart for MS as i don't see this game ever reach TES or GTA popularity level if they don't release it multi.
Captain Toad
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Do you realize how much money Call of Duty makes on PlayStation? Most of it.
The reason is money. Sweet, sweet microtransaction money.
You can use games like Elder Scrolls as exclusives to bring people to your ecosystem. The amount of money you burn by leaving CoD and Minecraft off PlayStation would just be dumb, which is why they announced they won't do it.
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kingfey
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This wasn't about COD, but MS exclusive games in form of gamepass.
COD will stay multiplat, since the boss of MS said it. It might even come to switch in the future.
kingfey
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You guys reaching this too much. MS owns bethesda. Nothing can make them put those games on other consoles.
Activision is different talk, since that is almost $70b purchase. 10x of bethesda sale.
Captain Toad
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Agreed.
kingfey
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He is wrong. Zenimax deal won't pop up at all. As that is already approved and nothing can be done about it.
kingfey
Banned
End goal doesn't mean putting it on competition platform. That is not how their goal works.
They are looking for long lasting systems. Playstation devices have 8 years expiration date. They won't get that much from it, compared to long term devices like TVs, mobile, and PC's.
Even their devices is limited to 8 years. And that is due to new gen coming out after that.
kingfey
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I wish they can put both companies on the same standards. It's annoying to always judge 1 platform, and leave the other alone.
Ass of Can Whooping
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It will pop up. It shouldn't need explaining why it obviously will
Ass of Can Whooping
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Oh, so now MS sees Sony as their competitor.
kingfey
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Competitor to their console. But budget wise nope.
It depend on when these guys get their focus fully on gaming. As of now, they are testing the waters. And the amount they can throw is no joke.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Nothing can be predicted. Nothing that is being said is legally binding. It's all just nonsense and guesswork at this point. Most people on both sides are just making shit up to fit their narrative at this point. The whole discussion is tiring and idiotic.
Leyasu
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Yeah they are the franchises that spring to mind. Although, I can see Microsoft eventually stopping the yearly cod releases to free up teams for other projects.
I don't know, they could do with those. We will see I guess
Ass of Can Whooping
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Their focus once again is being hardware agnostic, so Sony's hardware doesn't matter. Phil wants that thing to be everywhere. If they're fine with putting it on an iPhone why wouldn't they be fine putting it on a PS console?
Doesn't matter anyway. We've already heard all the rumours about them pitching it to Sony and them rejecting it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If you are on trial for anything, your prior history will always play a big part. Even on forums, people get banned after history of prior infractions.
If Lina khan has concerns Phil will take CoD private and Phil promises that he won't then she will bring up the zenimax acquisition which at the time was the biggest gaming acquisition.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Just for fun, but if you actually read the words, this only implies that existing games on PS will remain on PS after the contract is up. Technically, they did not say new titles would appear on PS. Very carefully worded imo. I think they probably will release new titles on PS, but those words don't say that.
