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[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Yep, every time.

This game and studio has given a particular section of the internet full-on brain worms.

Did it happen with Uncharted 4 Remaster? That was developed in house by ND and it was a disappointment in almost every way. They even toned down the global illumination from the ps4 version. Only 1440p/60 fps too. I've lost some trust in ND after that.

Some guy on Gaf made an in depth video showing numerous examples of missing

Is this game's base still the one created by Bend Studio? It's the only reason I can't think of that would explain the lack of ND graphical pedigree. This is ND we are talking about. Look at what they achieved on PS3 and PS4 and then look at this, their first PS5 game. This should be a 'blow the doors off' showcase. Instead we have these uncanny valley bug eyed character models.

Something is off about this project. Naughty Dog, ps5 exclusive and it's not blowing anyone away in fact it looks no better than LoU2. Also? DF counted only 1440p/60.

Same goes for UC4 remaster. It was extremely underwhelming. They even downgraded the global illumination somewhat. A guy on Gaf made a thread showing various downgrades with it.

So excuse me for not having confidence in this $70 remake. If it looks like LoU2 I'll consider this a disappointment. It's next gen only guys.

Someone said a game "doesn't need to have ray tracing to look good" and they're right but can we at least agree that SSR looks like shit compared to RT reflections? So why can't they pull off RT reflections for this "next gen rebuilt from ground up Naughty Dog" game?

 

[Aressa]

Go analyze human models, the model of the blue dragon and care for microdetails and animation blending in both games.

Not saying that demons look bad or that many people aren't gonna prefer the bluepoint remake, but personally, tlou2 has more graphical aspects that i care more that are just superior to demons.

If you seriously think that the difference is gigantic between the 2 games, i'm not the one who need glasses (btw i have 14/10 sight after the laser operation)

Have you played the original Demon Souls? Bluepoint remake was a transformation from graphics to performance. TLoU was already remastered on PS4 and looks great and playable at 60fps. This is the most cash grab expensive unnecessary remaster ever released.

 

[elcapitano]

Have you played the original Demon Souls? Bluepoint remake was a transformation from graphics to performance. TLoU was already remastered on PS4 and looks great and playable at 60fps. This is the most cash grab expensive unnecessary remaster ever released.

It's being released on PC so no it ain't

 

[UnNamed]

Definitely improved.

Some people don't really remember how TLOU looked on PS3.

 

[Banjo64]

Go analyze human models, the model of the blue dragon and care for microdetails and animation blending in both games.

Not saying that demons look bad or that many people aren't gonna prefer the bluepoint remake, but personally, tlou2 has more graphical aspects that i care more that are just superior to demons.

If you seriously think that the difference is gigantic between the 2 games, i'm not the one who need glasses (btw i have 14/10 sight after the laser operation), we are talking about the best of the best graphic on console.

Why is character micro-detail and animations more important than environmental textures and lighting?

What's more important to the overall graphics of a game; Joel's nose hair and twitchy eye or the actual environment that you spend 99.9% of the time looking at?

 

[FunkMiller]

It's being released on PC so no it ain't

Fine. Either release on Ps5 for a smaller amount of money, or put it on Plus.

To charge full price to playstation gamers is pure, unfiltered greed.

 

[elcapitano]

Fine. Either release on Ps5 for a smaller amount of money, or put it on Plus.

To charge full price to playstation gamers is pure, unfiltered greed.

Is it? You haven't even seen how the game is remade yet.

Graphics are massively improved. In game content is night and day.

We will see on gameplay and AI but they already said they are being reworked.

People can still play the PS4 version for free if they feel there is not much difference.

It's not as if they are forcing anyone to get this. In fact they have announced the game and still let the free version available for people to get which gives them every option to make an informed decision.

 

[Akuji]

The last of us opening scene alone is better then alot of the generic games that come out these days.
Gonna be good Its a really well put together game. Nobody puts a gun to your head to buy it.
You can buy it at release, a year down the line. At the end of the gen or never.

lol Deathloop vibes in here.

 

[GymWolf]

Why is character micro-detail and animations more important than environmental textures and lighting?

What's more important to the overall graphics of a game; Joel's nose hair and twitchy eye or the actual environment that you spend 99.9% of the time looking at?

Different priorities i guess, it's not like tlou2 doesn't have scene with perfect details\perfect pre baked lights all around like the famous horse in the forest scene or the flame village or many other scenes.

You also look at human models, their animations and the microdetails from your interaction with the world all the time, so yeah, different priorities, you may be like better details in the environment, i prefer something like better models and animations that make the game more realistic to me.

 

[Black_Stride]

I thought they said major gameplay improvements?
If its just a fresh coat of paint 70 dollars seems a bit steep.

Either way im jumping in on PC to see how good the ND engine is on PC.
And also because TLOU is just a really good game, hopefully cdkeys have it for ~35 dollars.

 

[GymWolf]

Are you people for real? Of course is gonna play like tlou2, there is zero chance of this not happening, it's literally the big thing of this remaster, more than the graphic.

The leaker is probably a troll.

 

[GymWolf]

Have you played the original Demon Souls? Bluepoint remake was a transformation from graphics to performance. TLoU was already remastered on PS4 and looks great and playable at 60fps. This is the most cash grab expensive unnecessary remaster ever released.

Where i said the opposite? Of course it is a cash grab, but it has nothing to do with a graphic comparison between the 2 games, both have strong points and to me tlou2 is even more impressive because it doesn't run on a ps5.

 

[Aressa]

Definitely improved.

Some people don't really remember how TLOU looked on PS3.

Yes it was improved with the PS4 remaster that looked great and played great.

 

[ButchCat]

Why are her eyes like this? They did her dirty.

 

[rofif]

Did it happen with Uncharted 4 Remaster? That was developed in house by ND and it was a disappointment in almost every way. They even toned down the global illumination from the ps4 version. Only 1440p/60 fps too. I've lost some trust in ND after that.

Some guy on Gaf made an in depth video showing numerous examples of missing

Something is off about this project. Naughty Dog, ps5 exclusive and it's not blowing anyone away in fact it looks no better than LoU2. Also? DF counted only 1440p/60.

Same goes for UC4 remaster. It was extremely underwhelming. They even downgraded the global illumination somewhat. A guy on Gaf made a thread showing various downgrades with it.

So excuse me for not having confidence in this $70 remake. If it looks like LoU2 I'll consider this a disappointment. It's next gen only guys.

Someone said a game "doesn't need to have ray tracing to look good" and they're right but can we at least agree that SSR looks like shit compared to RT reflections? So why can't they pull off RT reflections for this "next gen rebuilt from ground up Naughty Dog" game?

Nothing wrong with uc4 remaster

 

[Aressa]

Are you people for real? Of course is gonna play like tlou2, there is zero chance of this not happening, it's literally the big thing of this remaster, more than the graphic.

The leaker is probably a troll.

Why not show the most important part of the improvement then for your upcoming game which is the gameplay? The game is releasing in 45 days

 

[ChiefDada]

Why doesn't this shit have Ray Tracing? If you can't get your "marquee" studio making a next gen only remake to have RT, what does that say about Naughty Dog? Or the ps5 ...

How do any of these leaks confirm or disprove the use of hardware rt in the game? All I can say for now is the lighting and shadows look ridiculously accurate even based on the crap video.

 

[Toots]

Sarah looks off in this, kinda creepy.

You're only saying that because Neil retconned the 12 year old girl from the original into an anarcho-maoist radical transfem.
But what you don't know is that it was mandatory for us to better understand the story of the game.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

 

[Borowski_1]

https://s6.uupload.ir/files/fyd_iwrxwae-otk_r0x0.jpg

Calling this a remake should give a death sentence

 

[MidGenRefresh]

https://s6.uupload.ir/files/fyd_iwrxwae-otk_r0x0.jpg

Calling this a remake should give a death sentence

It clearly is a remake. A remake of PS3 game made with PS4 technology and released on PS5.

 

[drezz]

https://s6.uupload.ir/files/fyd_iwrxwae-otk_r0x0.jpg

Calling this a remake should give a death sentence

But thats against the PS4's Remaster.

Should post vs PS3 Edition imo, just so we can marvel at the progress.

Imo, im skipping it regardless.
I've platinumed both PS3 and PS4 version and 1k hour in MP. Second time in a row I've been dissapointed by lou, cause of the lack of MP.

 

[TintoConCasera]

It clearly is a remake. A remake of PS3 game made with PS4 technology and released on PS5.

Believing in generations, I see.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

https://s6.uupload.ir/files/fyd_iwrxwae-otk_r0x0.jpg

Calling this a remake should give a death sentence

Not honouring the avatar bet should give a death sentence

 

[Borowski_1]

It clearly is a remake. A remake of PS3 game made with PS4 technology and released on PS5.

It's the same game with better graphics.

It's not like FF VII or Resident Evil 2

 

[M1987]

https://s6.uupload.ir/files/fyd_iwrxwae-otk_r0x0.jpg

Calling this a remake should give a death sentence

It is a remake, and it looks so much better than the remastered version

 

[Topher]

If it turns out there are no changes other than aesthetic ones, this cash grab just looks even worse. There has to be significant gameplay improvements and changes to justify this title's existence as anything other than a greed fuelled, cynical exercise in fleecing gullible gamers.

I'm planning on buying the game, but if it doesn't have improved gameplay then I'll wait on a sale which I expect would happen soon after release as the game will get trashed in reviews if the changes are just cosmetic.

It's the same game with better graphics.

Not according to Sony. They clearly said it has "modernized gameplay" as well.

 

[Brock2621]

It's one of the most dramatic scenes I've seen in a video game. Now that I have a 2-year old daughter it hits different.

After I had children my whole viewpoint on life changed. Everything. I felt immense pressure to be better, to grow up, to kick bad habits and make myself a person worthy of being someone's old wise grandfather. My political views changed…. Everything. It's wild how much children can change a person for the better, and no doubt it's the greatest thing I've ever done in life.

 

[MasterCornholio]

It's the same game with better graphics.

It's not like FF VII or Resident Evil 2

It's more like Demon Souls which is considered a remake.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

It's the same game with better graphics.

It's not like FF VII or Resident Evil 2

That's because not even a decade has passed since original was released VS. 2+ decades in case of Final Fantasy VII or Resident Evil 2. Nobody asked for this remake. The only reason why it exists is the upcoming HBO series. To top it up it's being remade using last gen technology.

In other words: it's a cash grab!

 

[Borowski_1]

It's more like Demon Souls which is considered a remake.

The point i'm trying to make here is that charging 70$ for this is pure robbery

It's the same game with a new paintjob

 

[M1987]

I can see a huge difference on my phone, so imagine how incredible it's going to look on a tv? this will be the best looking game ever made to date, just like Part 2 was before Forbidden West was released

 

[Borowski_1]

That's because not even a decade has passed since original was released VS. 2+ decades in case of Final Fantasy VII or Resident Evil 2. Nobody asked for this remake. The only reason why it exists is the upcoming HBO series. To top it up it's being remade using last gen technology.

In other words: it's a cash grab!

On that we can agree

Wast of money and talent from Naughty Dog

 

[Topher]

The point i'm trying to make here is that charging 70$ for this is pure robbery

It's the same game with a new paintjob

"We've implemented modernized gameplay, improved controls, and expanded accessibility options in this single-player experience to allow even more individuals to enjoy the game. Effects, exploration, and combat have all been enhanced. Leveraging the PS5's powerful hardware, we also implemented 3D Audio*, haptics, and adaptive triggers. Both returning fans and new players alike will have the opportunity to experience both The Last of Us Part I and its prequel story Left Behind in a whole new way. "

The Growing Future of The Last of Us

The latest on the upcoming online experience, The Last of Us on HBO, and The Last of Us Part I.

blog.playstation.com

 

[Banjo64]

Definitely improved.

Some people don't really remember how TLOU looked on PS3.

Game looked great on PS3. Best looking game of that entire generation.

But I don't think anyone's saying the PS5 version doesn't look better than the PS3 version. It's just not a 2x generational gap (PS3 to PS5), it's Factionless, and costs more in terms of retail price than the PS3/4 versions.

In my opinion it's indisputable that the PS4 version's cutscenes are better than these real time character model equivalents on PS5. The character models look off in this version.

Overall, I don't see the point in the existence of this game. ND are doing nothing except risking fatigue (TLOU2, TLOU RR and then Factions all within a 2-3 year period).

 

[Slothbeingg]

With this leak i think we'll have new trailer soon. Hope it's not cutscene trailer...

 

[MasterCornholio]

The point i'm trying to make here is that charging 70$ for this is pure robbery

It's the same game with a new paintjob

I thought the point you were making is that it just a cheap remaster.

 

[M1987]

Game looked great on PS3. Best looking game of that entire generation.

But I don't think anyone's saying the PS5 version doesn't look better than the PS3 version. It's just not a 2x generational gap (PS3 to PS5), it's Factionless, and costs more in terms of retail price than the PS3/4 versions.

In my opinion it's indisputable that the PS4 version's cutscenes are better than these real time character model equivalents on PS5. The character models look off in this version.

Overall, I don't see the point in the existence of this game. ND are doing nothing except risking fatigue (TLOU2, TLOU RR and then Factions all within a 2-3 year period).

I think the only reason most people don't think the remake looks 2 generations apart is because of Part 2 on PS4 ,which looked a gen ahead of anything else at the time. We should really see what ND can do on next gen hardware in their next game, as this is just a remake

 

[GymWolf]

Why not show the most important part of the improvement then for your upcoming game which is the gameplay? The game is releasing in 45 days

I sincerely don't know.

But i'm ready to eat crow if the gameplay didn't evolved.

 

[Ellery]

I sincerely don't know.

But i'm ready to eat crow if the gameplay didn't evolved.

It is a good question what gameplay evolved means. I don't expect the game to have Joel add new moves that completely change the essence and structure of the game, but rather improved animations to increase the feedback so seeing something happening on screen paired with a higher framerate makes it feel better.
At the very core I expect The Last of Us and not Bayonetta. I still expect and want the game to feel logical within the world it is set. It should still have weight to the gameplay.

I have not looked at any leaked gameplay or screenshots in this thread and most of them have been removed by now, but early September is soon enough.

 

[GymWolf]

It is a good question what gameplay evolved means. I don't expect the game to have Joel add new moves that completely change the essence and structure of the game, but rather improved animations to increase the feedback so seeing something happening on screen paired with a higher framerate makes it feel better.
At the very core I expect The Last of Us and not Bayonetta. I still expect and want the game to feel logical within the world it is set. It should still have weight to the gameplay.

I have not looked at any leaked gameplay or screenshots in this thread and most of them have been removed by now, but early September is soon enough.

I simply expect tlou2 gameplay\ia, nothing more or less, improved melee, better enemy ia, going prone etc.

When i say evolved i mean evolved from the original tlou1.

 

[Topher]

I simply expect tlou2 gameplay\ia, nothing more or less, improved melee, better enemy ia, going prone etc.

When i say evolved i mean evolved from the original tlou1.

Those are my expectations as well. Although I am curious to know what ND means when they say "enhanced exploration".

 

[MidGenRefresh]

This one gives me strong Mafia Remake vibes. Just add some color.

 

[FeastYoEyes]

hold up.

Aight, time for another play through.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Is it me, or something looks a bit off about the characters.

 

[Barrico82]

Is it me, or something looks a bit off about the characters.

They changed Tess model.
She doesn't look the same at all and it appears Tommy also has been changed

The remake that nobody asked for !

 

[Borowski_1]

I thought the point you were making is that it just a cheap remaster.

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

That's because not even a decade has passed since original was released

Depends on which calendar you subscribe to

 

[Ansphn]

Naughty Dog is the Premier gaming studio. They're back to show these haters why theyre on top.

 

[Topher]

Sure......if you just ignore what ND said was changing.