ReBurn
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I'm his uncle that works for whichever video game company did the thing.
Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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IFireflyl
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I wonder when you'll stop spouting this. You keep making this argument, and it has never not been dumb as fuck.
Baki
Member
There are 2 reasons why Sony would consider signing a deal with MS prior to ABK deal closing:
- It looks like regulators are going to approve the deal, this is their chance to get the best concessions
- They've secured COD, have their own acquisitions in mind (e.g. Take2), and don't want regulators to be a roadblock
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FoxMcChief
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I want to know and I want it to be poop.Man....there is no telling what is in that bag. And I don't want to know.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
FUDFound this gem.
SneakersSO
Member
Highly, highly doubt SuperJooster is at all real, btw. If negotiations are happening between the two parties, it could be on any number of things. No one has even said its related to the acquisition.
Most of Wall St. is now thinking Sony is gonna win this fight, so I highly doubt they'd bite on any deal. We'll see though.
Most of Wall St. is now thinking Sony is gonna win this fight, so I highly doubt they'd bite on any deal. We'll see though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It could, but in the context of the inquiry it really doesn't seem like it would be anything else but this whole kerfuffle.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG
Gold Member
Shades of benzema to arsenal 2015.
I would more than welcome a Jeinny Lizarazo moment in this saga.
freefornow
Member
As in Halo Infinite? Coming to PS+?
Jet worthy!
Iced Arcade
Member
why stop now? we got 490 pages of reaching
Topher
Identifies as young
ToTTenTranz
Banned
It's dead, Jim(bo).
I don't get how they can argue for monopoly in cloud.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I'd love to see the financials on their Xbox cloud monopoly. It's clearly something regulators are concerned about.
The funniest thing is that Xcloud still just a feature packed on gamepass ultimate, not a standalone service and still doesn't allow players to use their owned library yet. Good luck on taking financials over something that still on a very beta phase and its technically a "freebie"
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gothmog
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Delivered by Azure, which is probably what they're concerned about. Hard to compete in game streaming when the tech giant both provides free infrastructure for streaming as well as uses their money to buy up whole publishers and their catalogs.
I recall Google citing this as one of the reasons Stadia was shutting down.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Did you read the provisional findings by the CMA?
People keep asking these questions and raising concerns about things but never read the documents
It's all in there.xCloud has a 60-70% share in the UK cloud gaming market. PlayStation has a 10-20% share in the UK Cloud gaming market. This is according to the CMA after assessing Microsoft's and Sony's internal documents.
So xCloud is already a monopoly in the UK and will become an even bigger one if MS acquires ABK.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
By the way, this SuperJoost "claim" is hilarious 
The guy says on his website, "I have no horse this race, nor do I own shares in any of the companies involved, and I am not compensated."
Then proceeds to create and submit this 20-page document (!) to regulators to convince them to let Microsoft buy ABK.
Notice the keywords:
The guy says on his website, "I have no horse this race, nor do I own shares in any of the companies involved, and I am not compensated."
Then proceeds to create and submit this 20-page document (!) to regulators to convince them to let Microsoft buy ABK.
Notice the keywords:
- "improved competition"
- "will benefit consumers"
1) not taking anything from the whole plane story
2) the paragraph around the reasons they (CMA) felt comfortable defining cloud streaming market felt quite speculative but it is what it is. Will be interested to see what the final EC papers say, if its rather similar
Slow week in general.
2) the paragraph around the reasons they (CMA) felt comfortable defining cloud streaming market felt quite speculative but it is what it is. Will be interested to see what the final EC papers say, if its rather similar
Slow week in general.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Summary: All 3 main regulatory bodies (UK, US, and EU) have opposed the deal as it was originally conceived.
The CMA/UK is the frontrunner and presented a list of structural remedies, which basically means they may approve the deal if Microsoft lets go of Call of Duty/Activision. Another option would be for Microsoft to convince the CMA (they're not convinced at the moment) to let them also keep COD/Activision, and MS will ensure console and cloud parity of COD in perpetuity (practically impossible).
Activision has also started taking steps to protect itself if the acquisition fails.
At the moment, the deal is more likely to fail than to pass. Even if it does pass (slim chance), it won't be in its original form.
Yoboman
Member
But it got approved in Chile
Banjo64
cumsessed
We're going to see Bobby in his bedroom window holding a PS5 up to the crowd;
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jan/20/kaka-manchester-city-milan-transfer
Baki
Member
Yup, only 3 companies with the infrastructure for streaming. Amazon, MS and Google. Ironically Phil mentioned this in an interview and that's certainly being used against MS
ikbalCO
Banned
Thank you so much.
God damn this dumb shit just gets out hand if you miss one day of news.
What is the news of sony flying to MS HQ then? Just a rumor?
demigod
Member
Fake from a fanboy.
FriulHado
Member
Really? Because there is an opposite mood on twitter
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Just a rumor from one person who is new to this scene (so we don't know if he is credible or not). Logically, it doesn't make sense that Sony would negotiate the deal now with MS when they have the upper hand and the deal is more likely to be blocked.
Also, I noticed that the guy who started this rumor claims to be neutral but actually wants this acquisition to pass. So he may just be starting shit to create FUD in favor of the acquisition.
By the way, this SuperJoost "claim" is hilarious
The guy says on his website, "I have no horse this race, nor do I own shares in any of the companies involved, and I am not compensated."
Then proceeds to create and submit this 20-page document (!) to regulators to convince them to let Microsoft buy ABK.
Notice the keywords:
"I have no horse in this race"
- "improved competition"
- "will benefit consumers"
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Well, that's Twitter for you
You can find CMA's published documents here where they raised all the objections:
Edmund
is waiting for Starfield 7
Whenever someone has to state that they are neutral or that they have all 3 consoles to show that they are unbiased, 100% of the time, they are fanboys.
FriulHado
Member
I don't deny those documents but I don't think there's another chance that the deal will fail.Well, that's Twitter for you
You can find CMA's published documents here where they raised all the objections:
baphomet
Member
It's not.
It's already past that point. It can't pass in the original form, ie. Microsoft isn't going to own all of Activision.
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jm89
Member
Mask is slipping.Found this gem.
Some people are just grasping at straws finding whatever they can to push their agendas. They also like to get attention telling their audience what they want to hear regardless if it's true or not.
Twitter is full of these people.
Right now chances of this deal to pass without some really significant remedies that would basically change the nature of the deal like Microsoft wanted/intended are next to none.
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Nothing1234
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It's still funny to me how people thought this deal would be done no concessions.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
The cloud infrastructure wasn't free. MS invested in the tech. Sony had game streaming before MS did. Difference is MS invested in it much more heavily and now appear to be penalized for that investment even though it isn't a stand alone product and doesn't generate any money on its own. Cloud on Xbox isn't anything close to being a market.
Baki
Member
Azure costs 10s of billions of dollars to build. There's a reason why only the trillion dollar companies are the big players in this space.
Nothing1234
Banned
Do you think Sony can spend on the level of MS, Google and Amazon?
Dick Jones
Banned
You want people to do their own research before reaching an informed opinion?Well, that's Twitter for you
You can find CMA's published documents here where they raised all the objections:
Nothing1234
Banned
Ideally yes but people lack the conviction.You want people to do their own research before reaching an informed opinion?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Try reading your comment like this then:
"First-party exclusives weren't free. Sony invested in the games. MS had more studios than PlayStation did. Difference is Sony invested in games much more heavily and now appears to be penalized for that investment."
See the similarities?
If you agree that MS shouldn't be penalized for their cloud investment and dominance, you would also agree that PS should not be penalized for its market share built on first-party investment and games.
That'd make it easier to understand the CMA's decision.
More importantly, MS can spend on the level of PS studios in their games and first-party studios. Sony cannot spend the same amount as MS to build Azure-level cloud services.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
You want people to do their own research before reaching an informed opinion?
Nothing1234
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Redacted.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Great step by PS. Might be the wrong thread to post in, however.
Nothing1234
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Oop thought this was the Europe thread let me edit.
Drell
Member
To be fair, knowing nothing about this legal stuff and seeing how they could buy Bethesda/Zenimax so easily while at the time, everyone here and everywhere was so happy about these games coming "for free" on the gamepass (The best deal in gaming TM), I was afraid nobody would do anything against them and that Microsoft would have bought all the big publishers one by one without any resistance after this.
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