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[ToadMan]

And they actually got something out of that case, the judge ruled against them, but he also mentioned that burgeoning markets can be monopolized, I predict we will %100 see that shit get used against Microsoft on cloud gaming.

Also a big part of the FTC case against Meta was that they would develop their own fitness app to compete with Within's, but if the purchase proceeded they wouldn't need to do this, removing a competing product from the market.

The judge ruled against that saying that while Meta was a large company with a lot of resources, the idea they'd develop their own fitness app was speculation.

And this is the argument against MS acquiring ABK - MS already has its own GAAS shooter. So the Meta verdict sets the precedent for the MS-ABK deal to be blocked.

There's no arguing MS can't build its own FPS when it already has one. A GOTY no less!

 

[GHG]

Someone, please check the location history of this new deals studio !

Brad Smith about to declare a HUGE VICTORY for Taiwan during a period of rising tensions with China.

 

[Ar¢tos]

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WHO

It's funny that they write this in all seriousness after buying Zenimax and reducing Playstation players "choices".

 

[GHG]

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It's funny that they write this in all seriousness after buying Zenimax and reducing Playstation players "choices".

Let's be real, other than Nvidia, I don't think they see any of these other companies as a threat to their own platform.

 

[ToadMan]

There was some new movement in the FTC case - did it get posted?

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ft...ivision-blizzard-inc-to-produce-documents.pdf

Basically FTC asking the court to force MS and ABK to produce documents that the FTC says are being withheld.

Not of major interest really but this does refer to zenimax again - the gift that keeps on giving.

Oh and one part of the request is specifically for documents relating to post acquisition plans for content that MS doesn't want to hand over.

 

[KingT731]

Let's be real, other than Nvidia, I don't think they see any of these other companies as a threat to their own platform.

Especially not in the case of Boosteroid where the CoD games are already available.

 

[reksveks]

There was some new movement in the FTC case - did it get posted?

New to me and sure that it wasn't posted.

I only saw the Take-Two pushback yesterday.

Will have a read over lunch.

MS RFP's
1 - ???
3 - documents around cross-play
6 - documents related to MS next gaming "ecosystem" (a part of console, subscription and cloud gaming business)
11 - documents around the exclusivity strategy behind Zenimax content and ABK content
16 - documents behind the deals with Nintendo, GFN and others

ABK RFP's
1 - consumer preference document around console choice.
2 - documents around cross-play
5 and 7 - documents around ABK offering/not offering content on MGS and Cloud services
8 - documents about the 'purported cannibalization' of B2p by MGS service and consumer behaviour differences between B2p and subscription users.

Doing this on my phone so it's a bit short in terms of my summary points

 

[Dick Jones]

WHO

Phil Spencer. I imagine you wouldn't know him since he has only been in the job a short time.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Someone, please check the location history of this new deals studio !

We will if Microsoft starts claiming this as a "win for Ukraine."

 

[Bernoulli]

i think we will get a new deal everyday

 

[jm89]

i think we will get a new deal everyday

If the deal goes through and they realise fuck we are gonna have to honour these deals.

 

[Dick Jones]

i think we will get a new deal everyday

If only MS put as much effort into building their own IP as they are with IP not yet in their possession

 

[ulantan]

i think we will get a new deal everyday

A deal a day keeps the regulators away.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[Dick Jones]

I thought you even claimed Brad Smith is an idiot who we should ignore on Twitter. So are we to accept the win for Ukraine now as a shameless MS effort or do we ignore all that imbecile's tweets? You can't have it both ways.

 

[adamsapple]

I thought you even claimed Brad Smith is an idiot who we should ignore on Twitter. So are we to accept the win for Ukraine now as a shameless MS effort or do we ignore all that imbecile's tweets? You can't have it both ways.

I think you've completely misread the gif.

 

[Nothing1234]

From a 3 year COD deal to Sony to all this. Funny how things work out.

 

[GHG]

Long live Brad Smith.

 

[RedC]

If only MS put as much effort into building their own IP as they are with IP not yet in their possession

Xbox puts plenty of effort into building its own IP, it's just very difficult to build IP that's massively successful.

Just look at all the major third party publishers struggling to do it.

There's a reason why reboots, remakes, and sequels of the few IP's that were massively successful continue.

People forget Sony was trying so hard to build something as successful as Halo and Gears of War in the 6th and 7th generations until they found a successful formula from Naughty Dog that's extended to the rest of their studios and has been massively successful for them.

 

[Astray]

If the deal goes through and they realise fuck we are gonna have to honour these deals.

Why would they though?

Most of these cloud deals are for BYOG types, meaning that they will only result in more sales for MSFT on existing storefronts.

Whoever is cutting these deals is a very good strategist tbh. Microsoft has vastly improved in that regard compared to the Ballmer years.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

sony opposing to the deal is making the industry better. Just look at how many deals is MS making to appease regulators.

So, all these green influencers and their minions that say sony is pathetic, whiny, etcetera need to recognize thay we came from MS offering just 3 more years only to sony, to access and parity for 10 years to everyone.

I wonder if Phil is going to take the "high Road" and thank Sony for forcing access to videogames to more and more people.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Microsoft are bringing cod to more players through niche cloud gaming providers that barely anybody uses? What? Who the fuck is ever gonna play fast paced multiplayer games through the cloud? It's nothing more than a show for the regulators.

 

[ResilientBanana]

No chance in hell Microsoft is trying to make ABK exclusive to only Microsoft, as that would devalue the purchase. Sony is being a little bitch when it comes to these deals.

Microsoft are bringing cod to more players through niche cloud gaming providers that barely anybody uses? What? Who the fuck is ever gonna play fast paced multiplayer games through the cloud?

122 Million Potential Switch users / and 1 Billion Potential Mobile users.

 

[Hendrick's]

We know. MS has done (in other sectors) almost the same, they will try to dominate the market.

That's what all businesses do.

 

[gothmog]

So what are these deals actually enabling? That they can allow their users to pay for Xcloud?

 

[ResilientBanana]

So what are these deals actually enabling? That they can allow their users to pay for Xcloud?

As they state, the entire Xbox PC / ABK lineup will be playable on their platform.

 

[gothmog]

As they state, the entire Xbox PC / ABK lineup will be playable on their platform.

Streamed. I was more asking about experience and most importantly if it is enabling the games included with the service or if it's just the right to pay for an add on.

 

[Topher]

If people digging the internet for "evidence" for canceling someone are name in a way, how should we name those that do the same and search for evidence that Boosteroid change twitter or address and they CEO is a certain nationality.... Should we differentiate these people?

You forget the part where no one is getting cancelled here.

 

[Heisenberg007]

No chance in hell Microsoft is trying to make ABK exclusive to only Microsoft, as that would devalue the purchase. Sony is being a little bitch when it comes to these deals.

Yeah, nah, we have been through this with Zenimax.

 

[adamsapple]

Yeah, nah, we have been through this with Zenimax.

Zenimax wasn't anywhere close to this, come on.

 

[GHG]

You forget the part where no one is getting cancelled here.

Didn't you know, scrutinising businesses and business deals = cancel culture, especially when Microsoft are involved.

Eat PR, consume and be happy.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Yeah, nah, we have been through this with Zenimax.

Not quite. ABK is $68 Billion, Zenimax was only $7.2 Billion. One of those you could afford to keep to yourself. Minecraft was purchased for $1Billion and it's on every platform, this includes Dungeons and soon, Legends.

 

[NickFire]

Zenimax wasn't anywhere close to this, come on.

The same arguments for and against Zenimax games staying or not staying multiplatform would apply though. The only difference is scale. But that difference creates more incentive to make COD console exclusive down the road, because the goal remains the same.

 

[Hendrick's]

Zenimax wasn't anywhere close to this, come on.

Never forget that only Sony is allowed to have exclusives. That is what this whole thread and anyone in opposition to this deal truly believes.

 

[Topher]

Didn't you know, scrutinising businesses and business deals = cancel culture, especially when Microsoft are involved.

Eat PR, consume and be happy.

Yes, let's just blindly follow ultra-rich corporations, shall we?

 

[GHG]

Not quite.

You think that the regulators getting heavily involved this time has had no influence on the chain of events that we have witnessed?

Need I remind you that originally they were only offering Sony a deal to honor existing contracts? There were no offers/contracts with Nvidia, Nintendo, Valve, etc.

This good guy facade has only come about because they are desperate for this deal to go through in order to save themselves the embarrassment, and in some people's cases, their jobs.

 

[Topher]

Never forget that only Sony is allowed to have exclusives. That is what this whole thread and anyone in opposition to this deal truly believes.

You forgot the /s

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Never forget that only Sony is allowed to have exclusives. That is what this whole thread and anyone in opposition to this deal truly believes.

Are you saying Microsoft doesn't already have exclusives…?

 

[ResilientBanana]

You think that the regulators getting heavily involved this time has had no influence on the chain of events that we have witnessed?

Need I remind you that originally they were only offering Sony a deal to honor existing contracts? There were no offers/contracts with Nvidia, Nintendo, Valve, etc.

This good guy facade has only come about because they are desperate for this deal to go through in order to save themselves the embarrassment, and in some people's cases, their jobs.

requote my post.

 

[GHG]

Never forget that only Sony is allowed to have exclusives. That is what this whole thread and anyone in opposition to this deal truly believes.

This is the first time your posts have started matching up with your avatar.

Go go purple hair.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

Will we make it to 777?

Before end April? Let me ask you a question..

Is water wet?

 

[Hendrick's]

Are you saying Microsoft doesn't already have exclusives…?

According to this site, they have no games at all.

 

[Topher]

According to this site, they have no games at all.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Zenimax wasn't anywhere close to this, come on.

Like Psygnosis, amirite?

Even less than most developers purchased by both companies in scale, but that card before most on here were born loves to get pulled.

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[Dick Jones]

Like Psygnosis, amirite?

How many games did Psygnosis have on Xbox? 0

Coincidence?

Please ignore that there is no overlap between the Sony purchase of Psygnosis and the release date of the OG Xbox to present.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Streamed. I was more asking about experience and most importantly if it is enabling the games included with the service or if it's just the right to pay for an add on.+

Correct, streamed. Ubitus, for instance, is a service that has the infrastructure for companies that want to stream games. Their game partners include Capcom, Codemasters, Konami, Deep Silver, Sega, Ubisoft, Square Enix, and now Microsoft. Chances are, they license out to their Business Partners, such as Nintendo, Samsung, Vodafone, Sega, Microsoft, Jio, and so on. There appears to be a market for it and Call of Duty isn't the only game ABK owns. So who cares?

Ubitus' clients and partners | 優必達

Ubitus has been working with Telco, major game companies and game developers worldwide to provide cloud gaming solutions. We also work closely with leading cloud server providers in the industry to provide the service with high performance but at a lower cost.

ubitus.net

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

According to this site, they have no games at all.

All I can see is that you have been so succesfully triggered, you had to change your avatar.
I might disagree with most stuff you posted in this thread, but I've respected you more before you made these changes.

 

[Elios83]

The more Microsoft gives up under pressure of getting the deal blocked the better for everyone.
None of this would have happened if it wasn't for this pressure they're feeling.
But I think there's room for more and they will be asked for more.
10 years is not a solution to anticompetitive concerns, it's just a delay. It needs to be monitored so that it's correctly enforced. It needs to have the possibility to get extended if the concerns are still valid in the future.
Hence why CMA want structural remedies.
We'll see what happens in the next few weeks.

 

[Danwan224]

Resetera really crying about the CMA.

All signs point to Activision becoming its own company.

Microsoft buying King and Blizzard. I doubt sugar daddy MS would just drop the whole thing. I do see them buying one more publisher after this CDPR or Ubisoft perhaps.

No sane company is buying ubisoft