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[Topher]

Nobody cared when Arkane did 30fps for dishonored games and Prey... but these were amazing games and looked great too

30 fps was the norm then. Performance options are the norm now.

 

[Freeman76]

I guess it’s why I’ve been primarily playing my PS5 Lately. Xbox continues to disappoint. Hope they get it together sooner rather than later.

Horsecrap.

 

[jm89]

I wanna laugh, but i feel like this is gonna be common on consoles. I hope i'm wrong.

 

[Represent.]

No he's 100% wrong because he's not thinking casual enough, the casual gamer plays mobile and only cares about match 4 puzzle games, not graphics...

If you want to go down the "only this small minority of gamers care about..." track you better be only looking at mobile gaming because only a tiny percentage of people who think they are "real" gamers buy a console at all and play games for graphics.

Move aside you elitist console gamers, only the true mobile gaming massive have the correct opinion on what matters to gaming.

Theres a difference between mobile gamer and casual gamer.

I wouldnt consider the businessman who only plays a Snake.io on his phone while on the train a casual gamer. He's different than the guy who buys consoles every gen and a few games every year like FIFA and COD and maybe experiments with an Elden Ring or something.

Well youre not getting that either

these devs are incompetent.

 

[kyoji]

its not like the artstyle or graphics for redball are gorgeous, so i better not see anyone defending this ESPECIALLY after all the discourse around 60fps and deltas before these next gen consoles launched! no goal post moving mofo's.

 

[j0hnnix]

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[FBeeEye]

Typical hyperbole from the usual suspects.

 

[old-parts]

For a multiplayer game you really should be targeting 60fps, I'm guessing they think the game is slow paced enough to the point were 30fps is considered okay.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Arkne have never been a technically proficient studio, so this isn’t surprising.

Co op progression being tied to host is the more problematic aspect. If it’s true.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Unacceptable not to offer (at least) 1080p/60fps for the Series X, it's supposed to be a fast game after all.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Guess I'm playing it later then

When it's finished

 

[Calverz]

looks to be 60 fps in this older video




weird move by arkane

Yea. To announce this so close to release too. Something doesn’t add up here. I personally don’t want it delayed as il be on pc.

 

[oji-san]

Ridiculous, nothing else to say.

 

[DragonNCM]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ARCANE........

 

[Bernardougf]

oooh, neo member over here already trying to start platform wars, speedrunning that ban hammer lol

Hes not wrong though... fool me once .. fool me 300 times .. you know what you are getting when you buy an xbox ...

 

[GHG]

Because devs are so horny for 4K resolution.

If it's a CPU bottleneck then the resolution matters very little until they fix the underlying problem.

 

[NickFire]

Typical hyperbole from the usual suspects.

What hyperbole are you actually seeing?

 

[Gobjuduck]

I’ll probably play on PC like all the other Arkane games. Funny to see certain people pretend to care in this discussion.

 

[systemr123]

Starfield is going to be 30 FPS isnt it?

I think it’ll be 24 FPS. Gotta go for that maximum movie effect.

 

[kyoji]

Typical hyperbole from the usual suspects.

Definition of coping ^ , but ill give you a pass since you missed all the next gen discussions and such. you just joined last year.

 

[dem]

This is what you get when you get rid of crunch..
Development just keeps going and going....


Developers need to be... motivated.

 

[systemr123]

Hes not wrong though... fool me once .. fool me 300 times .. you know what you are getting when you buy an xbox ...

You get fooled 360 times?

 

[Lone Wolf]

Horsecrap.

You’ll have to elaborate

 

[GHG]

I’ll probably play on PC like all the other Arkane games. Funny to see certain people pretend to care in this discussion.

This is an interesting development.

All my fellow green rats, welcome to PC.

 

[SolidQ]

PS3.5 level graphic with 30fps not bad

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Lol now redfall is everyone’s most anticipated game because the 60 FPS mode on console not being there at launch is the the deal breaker huh? Hopefully arkane gets that patch out for consoles soon. Man people love their negative Xbox news.

C'mon man, this whole "people love their negative Xbox news" has gotten to the point of being literally a persecution complex.

People are calling a spade a spade, did you see anyone complaining about the Forza series which looks sublime ? Or Ryse son of Rome ? Or Ori ? or Quantum break ? Or Sunset overdrive ? or Gears 5 ? or Psychonauts ? or flight simulator ?

 

[RiccochetJ]

That's too bad. I was looking forward to playing it on launch but I may wait until the 60fps patch comes.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Beta Tested on Game Pass™

 

[Umbasaborne]

Because devs are so horny for 4K resolution.

I really don't get it, i think the sweet spot for consoles is 1440p, maybe using tech like fsr to upscale the image to 4k. That way the games still look clean but aren't sacrificing a ton of performance

 

[Nydius]

There is zero excuse for 30 FPS only in 2023. Not in this, not in Gotham Knights, not in EA PGA Tour.

Between this and coop play having host-only progression, Redfall clearly isn’t ready for prime time and needed another delay. Microsoft’s first party output continues to be a dumpster fire and they better hope Starfield and Forza launch without a hitch.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Why do these consoles seem
So underpowered already?

i think in this example is on the dev's side.

 

[jroc74]

its not like the artstyle or graphics for redball are gorgeous, so i better not see anyone defending this ESPECIALLY after all the discourse around 60fps and deltas before these next gen consoles launched! no goal post moving mofo's.

Pretty much.

Pre launch was a wild time. So wild I had low expectations for the PS5. And have been pleasantly surprised again n again.

 

[Gudji]

Later date aka "if this shit doesn't sink in the first few months".

 

[Gobjuduck]

This is an interesting development.

All my fellow green rats, welcome to PC.

I play most shooters on PC, like they are meant to be.

 

[Rush2112]

For some reason, these shitty games are always woke too.

 

[BootsLoader]

Nah it’s just nostalgia. Go play it, it’s awful, and not even close to 30fps.

I know that it’s not close to 30 FPS but it was fine when I played it back then. At least it delivered some nice looking graphics, awesome gameplay, those gun reloads were something else. Lastly it had a good scenario. It packed a great multiplayer experience and more.

 

[STARSBarry]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ARCANE........

It feels pretty close to this...

 

[Bo_Hazem]

For some reason, these shitty games are always woke too.

Because woke as well tend to hate working hard and always have too much "feelings".

 

[It's all in the wrist]

Thats right. Arkane is here to properly usher in the next generation.

 

[NeonGhost]

The melodrama over 60 fps vs 30 fps is always juicy. It's become basically an issue of religion.

Don't like 30? It's not like there isn't anything to play until they implement 60. This is such a nontroversy.

I’m gonna guess you are one of the people who say they can’t see the difference

 

[Fbh]

Reason 574 not to buy/play games at launch.

looks to be 60 fps in this older video




weird move by arkane

I don't see any note specifying it was "captured on a Series X" so it's probably just the PC version.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Thats right. Arkane is here to properly usher in the next generation.

I will assume this is a reference to some green influencer's statements....do these people have some sense of dignity....

 

[Spitfire098]

2 Trillion dollar company btw

 

[Interfectum]

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Not here to shit post by any means and while I too would have preferred the 60fps version over the 30fps 4k version, I (and none of us here) have ANY idea what those meetings looked like and what expectations were placed on the dev team.

Co-op game play in a large shared environment is difficult to do performantly. Games are not easy to make and a very V E R Y select few developers have unlimited time, talent, and budget.

Play it or don't play it totally up to you...just please stop shitting on the developer because you THINK you know what the fuck goes into making a game today.

 

[saintjules]

Any game with the word "fall" in it fails it seems.

Godfall
Babylon's Fall
Redfall

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Any game with the word "fall" in it fails it seems.

Godfall
Babylon's Fall
Redfall

ShadowFall

 

[Topher]

Not here to shit post by any means and while I too would have preferred the 60fps version over the 30fps 4k version, I (and none of us here) have ANY idea what those meetings looked like and what expectations were placed on the dev team.

Co-op game play in a large shared environment is difficult to do performantly. Games are not easy to make and a very V E R Y select few developers have unlimited time, talent, and budget.

Play it or don't play it totally up to you...just please stop shitting on the developer because you THINK you know what the fuck goes into making a game today.

From what I'm seeing, no one is shitting on the developer, just shitting on the decision to allow the game to be released in this state. Needs to be delayed.

 

[proandrad]

Wouldn't be better launching the 4K mode later? Pretty sure people would prefer 60fps, even more for a shooter.

No, because 4K screenshots are better in 4K for marketing and we all know marketing is the priority for most AAA games.