PS5 Pro devkits arrive at third-party studios, Sony expects Pro specs to leak

winjer said:
So what?
It doesn't change the fact that AMD is doing ray testing in the Texture Units, for RNDA 2 and 3.
Here is their patent for RT using the TMUs.

TEXTURE PROCESSOR BASED RAY TRACING ACCELERATION METHOD AND SYSTEM

Complete Patent Searching Database and Patent Data Analytics Services.
www.freepatentsonline.com www.freepatentsonline.com
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The same for PS5.
 
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rnlval said:
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The same for PS5.
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Yes, they all have Ray Accelerators done in the TMUs.
The question is what is going to happen with the PS5 Pro. If it will use the RT system of RNDA3, or if it will use some features from RDNA4 and have dedicated units for RT.
 
winjer said:
1. Yes, they all have Ray Accelerators done in the TMUs.
The question is what is going to happen with the PS5 Pro. If it will use the RT system of RNDA3, or if it will use some features from RDNA4 and have dedicated units for RT.
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1. Disprove this.

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I firmly believe Pro is coming (in fact I sold my PS5 last year in the hopes of picking up a Pro later this year); but can you imagine us making it to November and not hearing a thing...the time just comes and goes.

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Audiophile said:
I firmly believe Pro is coming (in fact I sold my PS5 last year in the hopes of picking up a Pro later this year); but can you imagine us making it to November and not hearing a thing...the time just comes and goes.
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While I would say there is a nonzero chance it gets cancelled... it's not very high.
 
Danjin44 said:
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Was barely playing it anyway and was bored with the drawn out crossgen period. Made sense to take a gaming break and pick one up again later this year, -- hopefully a Pro -- when there are more exciting experiences on the horizon. Waiting til a Pro is announced just meant I'd likely get less for my base PS5.
 
You guys need to chill with the price. They will never make expensive console again. They just ditched oled tvs for this year to go for cheaper option.
 
rnlval said:
From https://i0.wp.com/chipsandcheese.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/rdna2.drawio-1.png?ssl=1

This is from clam chowder

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Notice both clam chowder's Ampere and RDNA 2 have "TMU / RT" box.
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winjer said:
AMD shows the Ray-Accelerator inside the TMU.

And here is AMD's patent for using RT in the Texture Units:

US20190197761A1 - Texture processor based ray tracing acceleration method and system - Google Patents

A texture processor based ray tracing accelerator method and system are described. The system includes a shader, texture processor (TP) and cache, which are interconnected. The TP includes a texture address unit (TA), a texture cache processor (TCP), a filter pipeline unit and a ray intersection...
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Fellas, take this to the Beyond3D forums.


HeisenbergFX4 said:
When actual specs get leaked if no one else does I am making a new thread because I rarely look in here for a meaningful bump
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GIVE US LEAKS NAO!!!
 
Well if Microsoft isn't releasing a Pro varient this year maybe Sony says let's pause. We already have the upper hand and consumer confidence. Why push out something we dont have to yet. Maybe they refine it a little more with another year wait and launch when the newer xbox is to release. Would be a smart move on Sony's side unless they already have mass produced units.
 
Dorfdad said:
Well if Microsoft isn't releasing a Pro varient this year maybe Sony says let's pause. We already have the upper hand and consumer confidence. Why push out something we dont have to yet. Maybe they refine it a little more with another year wait and launch when the newer xbox is to release. Would be a smart move on Sony's side unless they already have mass produced units.
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Contracts and purchase of materials would have already have happen
 
Is the pro really coming? I am holding off on buying a second PS5 to see if this is really arriving later this year. Need those leaks!!!
 
jzosa said:
Is the pro really coming? I am holding off on buying a second PS5 to see if this is really arriving later this year. Need those leaks!!!
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I'm debating on if I should hold off on buying my first PS5 or wait on this thing. But I kind of would like something now since I just got a new tv.
 
Dorfdad said:
Well if Microsoft isn't releasing a Pro varient this year maybe Sony says let's pause. We already have the upper hand and consumer confidence. Why push out something we dont have to yet. Maybe they refine it a little more with another year wait and launch when the newer xbox is to release. Would be a smart move on Sony's side unless they already have mass produced units.
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Sony competes vs pc market too, especially in europe that is sony stronghold, they want to give their consumer base a highend option, by holiday 2024 base ps5 is at best midrange pc equivalent in terms of cpu/gpu, and remember 4 more years left till ps6, in 2025 base ps5 will be only low end pc equivalent, performance wise.

So imagine perfectly plausible scenario- gamers wanna play sony exclusives, but in 2025 they notice how fricken weak base ps5 is, so they say- fk it, i will get into pc for 2-3x more performance(u could get 2x with 3090/3080ti already, which now is 600$ 4070super, hell 500$ 7800xt has 60-70% more performance too and better rt vs base ps5, those arent topend gpus but midrange and very affordable ones).
 
I imagine we wont actually get any real hard facts about specs until summer. I just hope it's a big enough jump to make me want to buy it. I like to buy the new thing.
 
That is hint for 8700XT (64CU) So we can see info about RDNA4 RT. Based on some info seems 2 or 4 position
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saintjules said:
What do you guys think? Strong, job terminating NDAs or what that has kept us from hearing of anything?
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There might not be much to leak. The only thing might be the GPU clock speed, and since it's variable that doesn't tell you much. The other thing would be the price and developers aren't going to know that.
 
rnlval said:
Who's fact? Clam Chowder?

Using RT cores in Blender 3D is an extreme RT use case example and it doesn't budget for real-time RT considerations.
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I actually just started learning blender do you know how to use/add ray tracing to your projects on it? I wanted to add rt shadows and lighting to a shadow model
 
playsaves3 said:
I mean if the year difference guarantees a cpu upgrade and full rdna 4 I think they should do it
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The problem with them making the Pro a huge upgrade is that it will lessen the jump when they release the PS6, personally I'd rather them focus on getting it out sooner with a good perf increase but not so much it makes next gen look disappointing.
 
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