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[Three]

Welp that's a no go for me.

Do you own LA Noire or Phantasy Star Online? If so it's already installed and it's harmless.

 

[Jigsaah]

Do you own LA Noire or Phantasy Star Online? If so it's already installed and it's harmless.

No I do not.

Not that big of a deal. The devs said they'll fix the issue with the anti-cheat. I'll just wait for that.

 

[Neon Xenon]

Yesterday, I  was eyeing a Helldivers 2 key on a discount, but decided not to. Didn't want to possibly get burned on a pre-order.

This or Suicide Squad?

Suicide Squad has highly positive rating if I remember correctly.

My answer would be: No.
No choice between the two, just, No.

 

[Kilau]

Valve should not allow this type of anti cheat, it’s basically malware since it can stick around after uninstall.

 

[tmlDan]

Point of that?

Redfall is in pretty good shape now, 6 months after launch.

Whats done is done.

you need help

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

 

[PropellerEar]

Go easy on them. They've still got Stella Blade, FF7 and Ronin to go while also getting their ass cheeks prepared for next week

Are you still review bombing Starfield, or showing butt clenchers some mercy already?

 

[Sacred]

Certain "people" want Sony to have a Redfall moment real bad.....lol.
OP dropped this turd of a thread and bounced....lol

Fail.

 

[BlackTron]

So they added anticheat to make sure people can't get MTX stuff for free, thereby preventing people from buying the game in the first place. They need to act fast or this game will lose a lot of potential.

 

[BlackTron]

Certain "people" want Sony to have a Redfall moment real bad.....lol.
OP dropped this turd of a thread and bounced....lol

 

[Draugoth]

Every notable game gets a steam review thread, Draugoth made one for this too, but this OP's thread was made earlier.

Drama - Community - Helldivers 2 releasing to mixed reviews on Steam as players are having server issues and issues due to anticheat code.

Helldivers 2 has been a very succeseful launch on Steam, amassing over 100k players on it's release day, whomever the game hasn't been well received due to a myriad of technical issues over networking and always online requirements The Developers have replied, saying they are commited to solve...

www.neogaf.com

Stop the dumbness.





Console version's probably gonna be fine at launch, I'll take a safer bet that that's where most of the pre-release QA went.

The critiscism over the shitty networkling are valid for the game

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Fail.

Pretty sure Sony had their own Redfall moment last year at this time.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

One of the negative reviews:

So the negative review says:

Avoid Because of Kernal Level Anti-Cheat (nProtect Gameguard)

But then it says:

I hope the developers read this and consider using one of the popular anti-cheats like EAC

..do people not know EAC functions in ring 0 as well?

 

[gothmog]

It should have mixed reviews as it's launching with issues. Noise is how you get action unfortunately.

 

[bender]

I had one crash on PS5 last night when trying to change my helmet which kind of reminds me of the issues Returnal launched with, with its' special costumes. I played two missions solo and those went fine.

 

[Three]

..do people not know EAC functions in ring 0 as well?

Exactly, Easy Anti Cheat runs in Kernal Mode too.

The difference is that when uninstalling a game it will not remove Gameguard in case you install other GameGuard games. People try to fearmonger as if it's some lurking malware that tries to hide on your system unless you edit registery files but that's also bullshit. You can just get an uninstaller from the official FAQs

https://gameguardfaq.nprotect.com/eng/con_22.html

 

[ChoosableOne]

Launch day steam reviews for a multiplayer game in a nutshell

That's not always the case. Even an EA game like Palworld got positive reviews at launch.

 

[Roman Empire]

no link to the reviews?

One of the negative reviews:

Well, I'm skipping this on PC for now

 

[Ozriel]

This or Suicide Squad?

Suicide Squad has highly positive rating if I remember correctly.

Everyone I know who is playing Helldivers 2 is having a great time when they can connect.

Matchmaking and server woes won’t last forever so HD2 is certainly a much better purchase than suicide squad.

 

[Solidus_T]

That's what I expected when I saw how high it was on the charts. Was anyone else thinking that the matchmaking would be able to handle the amount of preorders?
Also people can blame cheaters for the amount of kernel-level anti-cheat software that exists.

 

[StereoVsn]

One of the negative reviews:

Avoid Because of Kernal Level Anti-Cheat (nProtect Gameguard)

The truth is, this game's anti-cheat, Nprotect Gameguard, is the cheapest and most unsafe rootkit anti-cheat on the market.

Since it's kernal level the anti-cheat has kernal access to your PC, meaning it can go through all your files and control hardware. Some reported that even after uninstalling their games, people still can't get rid of the anti-cheat as it lurks in your PC.

Here's a list of awful Free 2 Play games that Helldivers 2 has the honor of sharing an anti-cheat with: {LINK REMOVED}

The decision behind using this anti-cheat is because, the developers don't want cheaters to steal microtransactions like they did in the first game. Which is absolutely fair, but they have chosen the wrong anti-cheat.

It doesn't even make sense for a PVE Game to have such a strong rootkit anti-cheat that gives it access to your entire PC.

To protect their profits, the developers have chosen an anti-cheat that put players at risk.

Many people have been turned away from this game, due to their decision.

I hope the developers read this and consider using one of the popular anti-cheats like EAC, at least that anti-cheat has a good reputation unlike nProtect Gameguard.

Oof, that’s not something they will be patching out any time soon. That’s a pretty big deal actually if correct. Potentially an attack vector on anyone using this.

Between this game and Capcom…

 

[Bkdk]

what a dive to hell in reviews, expected though. Seems like rocksteady, dontnod and arrowhead studios will be gone by the end of this year, layoffs in gaming is already rampant and no reasons for any investors to keep holding their heavy bags on these studios.

 

[tmlDan]

That's not always the case. Even an EA game like Palworld got positive reviews at launch.

because its EA, it also crashed on me a TON, it also ran like absolute shit till they patched it. Felt like a memory leak issue

what a dive to hell in reviews, expected though. Seems like rocksteady, dontnod and arrowhead studios will be gone by the end of this year, layoffs in gaming is already rampant and no reasons for any investors to keep holding their heavy bags on these studios.

What the hell is wrong with you, comparing those games is nonsense - they are all different scenarios

 

[StereoVsn]

Exactly, Easy Anti Cheat runs in Kernal Mode too.

The difference is that when uninstalling a game it will not remove Gameguard in case you install other GameGuard games. People try to fearmonger as if it's some lurking malware that tries to hide on your system unless you edit registery files but that's also bullshit. You can just get an uninstaller from the official FAQs

https://gameguardfaq.nprotect.com/eng/con_22.html

This shouldn’t be necessary. When you are uninstalling software the expectation is that it will be uninstalled.

To leave potential spyware on the device just in case some other game may use it in the future is complete BS.

A customer shouldn’t have to jump through hoops and download other dubious software to clean this shit up. It’s ridiculous to defend this.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

I was amazed at how bad the graphics were while in the ”hub” on ps5.

What pc hw is required for it to look better than the ps5 version?

 

[MikeM]

Here's a screen shot from my cousin.

So if your wondering why it's mixed, this is why.

PC strikes again lol

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Not sure why you seem to care so much.

I mean, you sure do seem to care about me caring.
Rules for thee but not for me, am i right Fox ?

Same about all the others..."interacting" with my previous post, it's pretty funny actually, those that live in glasses houses shouldn't throw stones and yet, here we are

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

no link to the reviews?

Are there any reviews even? I think neither this nor Foamstars have reviews.

 

[Three]

This shouldn’t be necessary. When you are uninstalling software the expectation is that it will be uninstalled.

To leave potential spyware on the device just in case some other game may use it in the future is complete BS.

A customer shouldn’t have to jump through hoops and download other dubious software to clean this shit up. It’s ridiculous to defend this.

It's not spyware and I'm not really defending the separate uninstall. just saying that this isn't a "rootkit" any more than other anti cheats like EAC which are also kernel level. You also don't need to edit registry files to get rid of it if you wanted to. You can uninstall it easily.

 

[dreamstation]

Played last night on PS5 and had a blast. Matchmaking issues are a problem but no other dramas on there.

Steam reviews are always a shit show on day one. I wouldn't take any notice of them.

 

[FeastYoEyes]

This game needs dlss. FSR looks blurry even in quality mode.

 

[Garibaldi]

Played it for 90 mins over lunch. Solid as a rock 100fps, maxed 3840x1600. No crashes or hitches.

I keep all of my dodgy files on a NAS so a rootkit on my easily cleaned PC is but a minor concern to me

 

[Little Chicken]

I look hot

 

[FoxMcChief]

I mean, you sure do seem to care about me caring.
Rules for thee but not for me, am i right Fox ?

Same about all the others..."interacting" with my previous post, it's pretty funny actually, those that live in glasses houses shouldn't throw stones and yet, here we are

I’m looking forward to playing it at some point. You just came off as a fanboy is all. I haven’t said a single negative word about the game.

 

[BlackTron]

I look hot

 

[T-800]

Do you own LA Noire or Phantasy Star Online? If so it's already installed and it's harmless.

Source for LA Noire using gameguard, except that one mmo forum?

 

[tmlDan]

 

[FoxMcChief]

That chic is thick.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

wow. Steam first, PS5 second

 

[Tomi]

Game is a blast
Didnt had so much fun a long time

 

[Mr Moose]

Source for LA Noire using gameguard, except that one mmo forum?

It uses GameShield.

 

[FoxMcChief]

wow. Steam first, PS5 second

That’s normal. PC always gets the fixes/patches first.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Anyone on PC having the game crash every time you press O to open social?

Is there a fix?

Just trying to redo files on steam, hopefully that helps

 

[Ozriel]

wow. Steam first, PS5 second

You fix the worst hit community first.
Also, the Steam reviews are the most public reviews out there, so it’s to their benefit to turn that around quickly so it doesn’t impact sales

 

[Three]

Source for LA Noire using gameguard, except that one mmo forum?

I'm not sure what the origin of the source is but it's mentioned in a few mod sites, maybe the original source is that MMO forum? I personally don't have LA Noire to check, it was just an example of a game that used gameguard somebody might have already installed. You can replace it with other games that installed it like PUBG if it makes a difference.

 

[Complistic]

Refunded this until the malware is replaced.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Palworld scenario once again. Consoles are second class to PC now thanks to the speed they can roll out updates.

 

[Mr Moose]

I'm not sure what the origin of the source is but it's mentioned in a few mod sites, maybe the original source is that MMO forum? I personally don't have LA Noire to check, it was just an example of a game that used gameguard somebody might have already installed. You can replace it with other games that installed it like PUBG if it makes a difference.

L.A. Noire uses GameShield not Gameguard. I don't know what the difference is between them though.

 

[T-800]

I'm not sure what the origin of the source is but it's mentioned in a few mod sites, maybe the original source is that MMO forum? I personally don't have LA Noire to check, it was just an example of a game that used gameguard somebody might have already installed. You can replace it with other games that installed it like PUBG if it makes a difference.

Nothing on steam forums comes up and the listed drm is game shield. I have it installed still for some reason but dunno how to check, its not in the "programs and features".

 

[ResilientBanana]

Are there any reviews even? I think neither this nor Foamstars have reviews.

Yes. I posted the link to them.