But you only found that out on what tuesday when the game released there's been many threads on here prior that had nothing to do with review codes.Other than not sending out review copies and cancelling sponsored streams? That's not very common.
And also, implying that all the negative feedback pre-release was bought and paid for.
click search, type in mindseye. There was alot of FUD being spread by msm, by those who didn't get review codes clearly.Hope you have some way to back this up, otherwise people could assume you put the words of a company before the word of your fellow gamers.
Way I see it, consumers have all the right in the world to dunk and shit on a half-baked product. Otherwise this shit could become the norm.
Also, the STALKER 2 devs got a pass because of all the shit they've gone through during development. But even then, to me at least, their game seems way more interesting than whatever this Mindseye shit is.
Yeah it's weird. I didn't even know the game existed until I see the threads here on GAF. Not even on 4chan I've caught a glimpse of it, seems like nobody cares about it.
Oh, you're one of them. Yes, nothing outrageous, just trying to charge full price for a broken, unfinished mess of a game. But hey, "no political or social agenda".... so it deserves to be praised for that??
Its a fucking game, first and foremost, they are asking for you to PAY for this garbage. You think this game got unfair treatment? Blame, yourself and your buddies for putting faith in THE BENZ to deliver.
Honestly, I don't even think the problem is just the technical state of the game. That's bad, sure, but the real issue runs deeperconvince me, i am genuinely wanting to know why mindseye is the outlier vs literally all the other broken messes we get over and over again (Especially on PC).
But why be so emotionally invested in it's demise where the countless other games that are the exact same in many ways we'd just do the nelson laugh and move on.Honestly, I don't even think the problem is just the technical state of the game. That's bad, sure, but the real issue runs deeper
It's one of the most barebones, uninspired third person shooters I've seen in years. There's no hook, no spark, nothing remotely fresh about the gameplay (loop). It's like someone put together a checklist of generic mechanics from 2012 and shipped it with a shiny coat of UE5 gloss
No systems to engage with, no real depth, and nothing to keep you playing beyond curiosity and even that dries up fast.
This isn't just a buggy launch. It's a hollow product.
I hurt myself todayTo
Prove I'm still human
You dont see people complaining about other broken games, because it becomes very obvious early on, (like this one), the market rejects it, nobody cares about it and we move on.But you only found that out on what tuesday when the game released there's been many threads on here prior that had nothing to do with review codes.
so are we saying that review codes is the thing that's really got everyone so riled up and furious about, again, a boring AA dud.
cancelling sponsored streams is the thing i'm meant to be so emotionally invested in the downfall of Mindseye launch
click search, type in mindseye. There was alot of FUD being spread by msm, by those who didn't get review codes clearly.
luckily in this scenario they seems to be vindicated and the game is a dud. I agree the STALKER 2 devs had terrible conditions, but my thought process is more, "why this game in particular" so replace STALKER2 any other game, it was just the first AA style game with big ambitions that I recently remember booting up on my pc and being like Woof this is an absolute hot mess.
The only reason I remember MindsEye being announced is because of everywhere, and even back then i was like huh, so it's a game in the other game but not in the game itself but uses the other game. Mindseye largely went dormant for a decent amount of time after that.
Again unless there was some blowout that i am missing, i am just trying to understand why Mindseye is the one people are so emotionally invested in.
I'm not one of anything, is this the first game you've ever seen release broken? Like where have you been the last 15 years of gaming.
instead of chastitizing, tell me why Mindseye is the game YOU personally draw the line at? Why this is the game that I should be going all nutter butters over, this budget AA mediocre game that wasn't important to anyone until all the negative press started coming out.
convince me, i am genuinely wanting to know why mindseye is the outlier vs literally all the other broken messes we get over and over again (Especially on PC).
EDIT: Honestly the bolded is just so unhinged, like what are you even talking about, you lack the ability to think critically because you are so emotionally compormised.
I've called the game a dud and mediocre and failure over and over, does that sound like someone defending the game![]()
So you personally are emotionally invested and compromised, getting angry online and so on.You dont see people complaining about other broken games, because it becomes very obvious early on, (like this one), the market rejects it, nobody cares about it and we move on.
The difference here is the tools that tried to defend this piece of shit and the THE BENZ, being tied to the project with his history with GTA.
Is it really that hard to understand? I worked in QA for nearly 10 years at 3 different companies, I fucking know when something is coming in hot.
Criticizing a poorly made game doesn't have anything to do with being "emotionally invested and compromised" nor "getting angry online and so on".So you personally are emotionally invested and compromised, getting angry online and so on.
Because some people on Gaf wanted the game to be good, and it didn't end up being good?
to be clear that's why i should be extra mad and Mindseye?
SO this is all just to get back at thatMMaRsu guy?
A month ago, any streamer invited to watch their canned preview said it was looking like shit too. All of them were basically like.... "Game looks like a mess and only a month to go till launch". Major red flag right there.You dont see people complaining about other broken games, because it becomes very obvious early on, (like this one), the market rejects it, nobody cares about it and we move on.
The difference here is the tools that tried to defend this piece of shit and the THE BENZ, being tied to the project with his history with GTA.
Is it really that hard to understand? I worked in QA for nearly 10 years at 3 different companies, I fucking know when something is coming in hot.
Criticizing a poorly made game doesn't have anything to do with being "emotionally invested and compromised" nor "getting angry online and so on".
If anything, the only person emotionally invested in this was that dude who got banned over it.
Oh, you're one of them. Yes, nothing outrageous, just trying to charge full price for a broken, unfinished mess of a game. But hey, "no political or social agenda".... so it deserves to be praised for that??
Its a fucking game, first and foremost, they are asking for you to PAY for this garbage. You think this game got unfair treatment? Blame, yourself and your buddies for putting faith in THE BENZ to deliver.
Is he? I don't see it. But feel free to keep playing dumb while trying to undermine any criticism, don't think anybody is buying it.Is pretty emoitonally invested and is getting angry online. Especially the bolded.
True. But to be fair, that guy is unhinged about everything. He'll go out of his way to let you know if he dislikes something, like Lords of the Fallen for example — and if you disagree he will tell you you're wrong. But then he goes on a crusade to defend this game and accuse people of having agendas. It's so weird.If anything, the only person emotionally invested in this was that dude who got banned over it.
It's such a weird phenomenon. AFAIKOf all games, why does this one have a defense force?
what critcism am i underminingIs he? I don't see it. But feel free to keep playing dumb while trying to undermine any criticism, don't think anybody is buying it.
I'd like to ask him what's up, but he wasted no time in announcing that he'd put me on his ignore list. Now I'll never know.True. But to be fair, that guy is unhinged about everything. He'll go out of his way to let you know if he dislikes something, like Lords of the Fallen for example — and if you disagree he will tell you you're wrong. But then he goes on a crusade to defend this game and accuse people of having agendas. It's so weird.
what critcism am i undermining![]()
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There was however an orchestrated movement by a large group of people to hate this game
Forgive if I'm wrong but that's the impression I got from your previous posts. When you claim that all criticism is either agenda driven or emotion driven then you make it look as non-valid criticism. As if people weren't able to see the game is obviously fucked up and all of this is some sort of smear campaign.So you personally are emotionally invested and compromised, getting angry online and so on.
He announced when he put me on ignore too, but he still likes some of my posts so maybe I'm unignored now? Who knows.I'd like to ask him what's up, but he wasted no time in announcing that he'd put me on his ignore list. Now I'll never know.![]()
You are indeed wrong,Forgive if I'm wrong but that's the impression I got from your previous posts. When you claim that all criticism is either agenda driven or emotion driven then you make it look as non-valid criticism. As if people weren't able to see the game is obviously fucked up and all of this is some sort of smear campaign.
Holy shit seriously? Sounds like this is a lot more than just some no name AA gameSupposedly the ex-Rockstar guy got $150M worth of investors money to put this studio together.
What a waste of money. Wave any project in an investing company's face with "lead by a former XXXXXX studio employee" and money goes ape shit wild like it's the dot.com craze of 1999 where everyone thinks if they invest $1,000 they'll turn it into $1,000,000.
That's tech for ya. Always endless buckets of cash.
Sorry man but I don't see it. You keep saying the game is being hated on way more than other titles, but is it? I don't do social-media, only browse NeoGAF and 4chan when it comes to videogames... on 4chan I've seen 1 thread and it's about the devs shutting down some streamers, and here on GAF I've seen 3 threads, the OT, the CCU one, and another one prior to release stating the poor state the game was going to release on.The fact is that this is just another shit game in a long line of shit games overpromising and underdelivering but yet this one has an active war going on and i am personally not understanding why this is the one we are going to fight over.
there is clearly a movement behind the game and i'm just trying to understand.
It's this generations DaikatanaSupposedly the ex-Rockstar guy got $150M worth of investors money to put this studio together.
Sony seems to be giving now refunds for this game and "investigate the situation".
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Ex-GTA lead’s MindsEye is such a technical disaster that PlayStation is giving out refunds
Ex-GTA lead's MindsEye is such a technical disaster that even Sony are willing to offer refunds through the PlayStation store.www.videogamer.com
where's Mmarsu ?
where's Mmarsu ?
It's a smear campaign by Sony i tell ya, now, where's Mmarsu ?
Unknown 9 had a reason, though. there was a movement against Sweet baby inc and DEI in games. I could see the argument being made, while I did agree in that particular case, there was at least an argument being made that i could understand why someone could want the game to fail above other games that are just plain bad that people forget after a week.Sorry man but I don't see it. You keep saying the game is being hated on way more than other titles, but is it? I don't do social-media, only browse NeoGAF and 4chan when it comes to videogames... on 4chan I've seen 1 thread and it's about the devs shutting down some streamers, and here on GAF I've seen 3 threads, the OT, the CCU one, and another one prior to release stating the poor state the game was going to release on.
I don't see this being any different than when people were were shitting on Unknown 9 (took me a few moments to remember the name lol), just some poorly produced game.
Maybe things are different on social media?
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.Unknown 9 had a reason, though. there was a movement against Sweet baby inc and DEI in games. I could see the argument being made, while I did agree in that particular case, there was at least an argument being made that i could understand why someone could want the game to fail above other games that are just plain bad that people forget after a week.
look I am not going to go and google all the articles written by the usual journos and find you all the threads and highlight messages and so on and so forth, I purely just don't care enough about this game to go and do that. if you don't believe me, then that's good for you, more power to you.
you don't have to agree with me, that's fine, but don't say i'm shutting down criticism and try to gaslight me instead of engaging me. You know that was dishonest because i have yet to say the game is anything but a dud, wank, rubbish, lowsy, a mess (i can go on if you would like)
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.![]()
Sony seems to be giving now refunds for this game and "investigate the situation".
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Ex-GTA lead’s MindsEye is such a technical disaster that PlayStation is giving out refunds
Ex-GTA lead's MindsEye is such a technical disaster that even Sony are willing to offer refunds through the PlayStation store.www.videogamer.com
Mystery solved. It's been Sony all along!!!You are indeed wrong,
Criticism and hate are not the same, and you shouldn't view them as the same. One is driven by facts, the other by emotion.
I am very obviously and succinctly talking about people's emotional attachment to this game, whether positive or negative, seems highly manufactured and nonsensical and rather over the top.
If the game had been released and was a mediocre success, I would have the same opinion but for those climbing hills to scream from the mountain tops over how amazing the game is.
The fact is that this is just another shit game in a long line of shit games overpromising and underdelivering but yet this one has an active war going on and i am personally not understanding why this is the one we are going to fight over.
there is clearly a movement behind the game and i'm just trying to understand.
The only explanation i've had so far was "a guy on gaf wanted it to be good, so he went overboard defending it".
I just can't get worked up over that personally, i don't know about you.
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.![]()
Aww. It's not often you see an internet argument end this way. Very mature of you two. I just have to say, what's wrong with you guys? Come on, keep fighting! Don't give up so easily!
Refunds ? Holy shit...
It's a smear campaign by Sony i tell ya, now, where's Mmarsu ?
Him, Chucky and that Brad Pitt muhfucka are currently in their fortress of doom plotting a terrorist attack on this thread.
Him, Chucky and that Brad Pitt muhfucka are currently in their fortress of doom plotting a terrorist attack on this thread.
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.![]()
you never knowMystery solved. It's been Sony all along!!!
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