Mindseye debuts on Steam with only 3k CCU and Mixed reviews (40% positive)
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StueyDuck
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But you only found that out on what tuesday when the game released there's been many threads on here prior that had nothing to do with review codes.
so are we saying that review codes is the thing that's really got everyone so riled up and furious about, again, a boring AA dud.
cancelling sponsored streams is the thing i'm meant to be so emotionally invested in the downfall of Mindseye launch
click search, type in mindseye. There was alot of FUD being spread by msm, by those who didn't get review codes clearly.
luckily in this scenario they seems to be vindicated and the game is a dud. I agree the STALKER 2 devs had terrible conditions, but my thought process is more, "why this game in particular" so replace STALKER2 any other game, it was just the first AA style game with big ambitions that I recently remember booting up on my pc and being like Woof this is an absolute hot mess.
The only reason I remember MindsEye being announced is because of everywhere, and even back then i was like huh, so it's a game in the other game but not in the game itself but uses the other game. Mindseye largely went dormant for a decent amount of time after that.
Again unless there was some blowout that i am missing, i am just trying to understand why Mindseye is the one people are so emotionally invested in.
I'm not one of anything, is this the first game you've ever seen release broken? Like where have you been the last 15 years of gaming.
instead of chastitizing, tell me why Mindseye is the game YOU personally draw the line at? Why this is the game that I should be going all nutter butters over, this budget AA mediocre game that wasn't important to anyone until all the negative press started coming out.
convince me, i am genuinely wanting to know why mindseye is the outlier vs literally all the other broken messes we get over and over again (Especially on PC).
EDIT: Honestly the bolded is just so unhinged, like what are you even talking about, you lack the ability to think critically because you are so emotionally compormised.
I've called the game a dud and mediocre and failure over and over, does that sound like someone defending the game
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HRK69
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Honestly, I don't even think the problem is just the technical state of the game. That's bad, sure, but the real issue runs deeper
It's one of the most barebones, uninspired third person shooters I've seen in years. There's no hook, no spark, nothing remotely fresh about the gameplay (loop). It's like someone put together a checklist of generic mechanics from 2012 and shipped it with a shiny coat of UE5 gloss
No systems to engage with, no real depth, and nothing to keep you playing beyond curiosity and even that dries up fast.
This isn't just a buggy launch. It's a hollow product.
StueyDuck
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But why be so emotionally invested in it's demise where the countless other games that are the exact same in many ways we'd just do the nelson laugh and move on.
There's apparently so much more here that i should be getting all worked up about and I just can't see why and no one has properly explained to me why this is the one.
unless something like Dustborn where there was absolutely a clear reason to want it to die and fail miserably, it was government funded, agenda driven slop created by people who hate games and gamers.
I can get behind singling out dustborn for that. A generic low budget AA game not being good and runs like shit, i dunno
just another day on steam for me.
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TerribleAtThisGame
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I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the Day 1 patch
The only thing that's real
The other GAFers tear a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything
Pasta la Vista
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You dont see people complaining about other broken games, because it becomes very obvious early on, (like this one), the market rejects it, nobody cares about it and we move on.But you only found that out on what tuesday when the game released there's been many threads on here prior that had nothing to do with review codes.
so are we saying that review codes is the thing that's really got everyone so riled up and furious about, again, a boring AA dud.
cancelling sponsored streams is the thing i'm meant to be so emotionally invested in the downfall of Mindseye launch
click search, type in mindseye. There was alot of FUD being spread by msm, by those who didn't get review codes clearly.
luckily in this scenario they seems to be vindicated and the game is a dud. I agree the STALKER 2 devs had terrible conditions, but my thought process is more, "why this game in particular" so replace STALKER2 any other game, it was just the first AA style game with big ambitions that I recently remember booting up on my pc and being like Woof this is an absolute hot mess.
The only reason I remember MindsEye being announced is because of everywhere, and even back then i was like huh, so it's a game in the other game but not in the game itself but uses the other game. Mindseye largely went dormant for a decent amount of time after that.
Again unless there was some blowout that i am missing, i am just trying to understand why Mindseye is the one people are so emotionally invested in.
I'm not one of anything, is this the first game you've ever seen release broken? Like where have you been the last 15 years of gaming.
instead of chastitizing, tell me why Mindseye is the game YOU personally draw the line at? Why this is the game that I should be going all nutter butters over, this budget AA mediocre game that wasn't important to anyone until all the negative press started coming out.
convince me, i am genuinely wanting to know why mindseye is the outlier vs literally all the other broken messes we get over and over again (Especially on PC).
EDIT: Honestly the bolded is just so unhinged, like what are you even talking about, you lack the ability to think critically because you are so emotionally compormised.
I've called the game a dud and mediocre and failure over and over, does that sound like someone defending the game
The difference here is the tools that tried to defend this piece of shit and the THE BENZ, being tied to the project with his history with GTA.
Is it really that hard to understand? I worked in QA for nearly 10 years at 3 different companies, I fucking know when something is coming in hot.
StreetsofBeige
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Only three reviews on Opencritic so far. Push Square gave a 3/10, some site never heard of gave it 48/100, Gaming Bolt 5/10. On Metacritic, user score 3.0 after 200.
Geez. My low ball 60-65 estimate is going to be way lower than thought. Game is so bad it might not even avg out to a 5 or 6/10 which even the crappiest games get in modern day game review scales.
www.metacritic.com
Geez. My low ball 60-65 estimate is going to be way lower than thought. Game is so bad it might not even avg out to a 5 or 6/10 which even the crappiest games get in modern day game review scales.
MindsEye Reviews
MindsEye is a story-driven, action-adventure thriller, set in a fictional near future Americana. Featuring best-in-class cinematics, high octane driving, and explosive combat from legendary game director, Leslie Benzies. Play as Jacob Diaz, a former soldier with a mysterious neural implant who...
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StueyDuck
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So you personally are emotionally invested and compromised, getting angry online and so on.
Because some people on Gaf wanted the game to be good, and it didn't end up being good?
to be clear that's why i should be extra mad and Mindseye?
So this is all just to get back at that
MMaRsu
guy?
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Criticizing a poorly made game doesn't have anything to do with being "emotionally invested and compromised" nor "getting angry online and so on".So you personally are emotionally invested and compromised, getting angry online and so on.
Because some people on Gaf wanted the game to be good, and it didn't end up being good?
to be clear that's why i should be extra mad and Mindseye?
SO this is all just to get back at that
If anything, the only person emotionally invested in this was that dude who got banned over it.
StreetsofBeige
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A month ago, any streamer invited to watch their canned preview said it was looking like shit too. All of them were basically like.... "Game looks like a mess and only a month to go till launch". Major red flag right there.
StueyDuck
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Well
Is pretty emotionally invested and is getting angry online. Especially the bolded.
Have i once declared the game a huge success and everyone is being unfair to criticize it?
All i am asking for is a reason why Mindseye is the straw that broke the camels back.
I am just not seeing why this isn't just another AA wank from an ex developer that went wrong and we just laugh and move on?
again i will ask to know why this one in particular did the media pick up on, why this one in particular is the one people are waiting for the final nail in the coffin...
If you want me to salivate along with you all i ask is to know why cause i just don't see a real reason.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Is he? I don't see it. But feel free to keep playing dumb while trying to undermine any criticism, don't think anybody is buying it.
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Kacho
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True. But to be fair, that guy is unhinged about everything. He'll go out of his way to let you know if he dislikes something, like Lords of the Fallen for example — and if you disagree he will tell you you're wrong. But then he goes on a crusade to defend this game and accuse people of having agendas. It's so weird.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
It's such a weird phenomenon. AFAIK
- lots of negative rumors started to leak out
- people who never even heard about this game now started talking about the negative rumors
- other people who never even heard about this game now started to white knight for it and complain about how horrible it is that some gamers want a game to fail
- both sides dug in
- CEO said there was some organized hate campaign against his game and implied people were getting paid to trash it
- this just drew more focus to the negative press/rumors
IDK on the one hand it seems like things just spiraled out of control. On the other hand, I feel like nobody would even know about this game if not for the negative publicity. It probably helped them more than it hurt.
StueyDuck
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what critcism am i undermining
I literally called the game wank in the very response you seem to be unable read or understand?
and i'm sorry, if you don't see the ludicrous statement that poster is making of "me and my buddies" as anything but emotionally compromised i don't know what to tell you.
it's like some sort of 4chan posting, like who are these buddies? what do we do? apparently i love Leslie Benzies?
multiple times on gaf i've said the game is built on everywhere's tech and that Everywhere plays like jank and i hope it's not a dud and to wait and see.
turned out it was a dud, so i'm confused who or where my buddies are and what criticism im denying
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I'd like to ask him what's up, but he wasted no time in announcing that he'd put me on his ignore list. Now I'll never know.
what critcism am i undermining
Forgive if I'm wrong but that's the impression I got from your previous posts. When you claim that all criticism is either agenda driven or emotion driven then you make it look as non-valid criticism. As if people weren't able to see the game is obviously fucked up and all of this is some sort of smear campaign.
pudel
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Sony seems to be giving now refunds for this game and "investigate the situation".
www.videogamer.com
Ex-GTA lead’s MindsEye is such a technical disaster that PlayStation is giving out refunds
Ex-GTA lead's MindsEye is such a technical disaster that even Sony are willing to offer refunds through the PlayStation store.
www.videogamer.com
Kacho
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He announced when he put me on ignore too, but he still likes some of my posts so maybe I'm unignored now? Who knows.I'd like to ask him what's up, but he wasted no time in announcing that he'd put me on his ignore list. Now I'll never know.
I'm unable to tell if he's trolling or dead serious. It's almost like he's doing a bit.
StueyDuck
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You are indeed wrong,
Criticism and hate are not the same, and you shouldn't view them as the same. One is driven by facts, the other by emotion.
I am very obviously and succinctly talking about people's emotional attachment to this game, whether positive or negative, seems highly manufactured and nonsensical and rather over the top.
If the game had been released and was a mediocre success, I would have the same opinion but for those climbing hills to scream from the mountain tops over how amazing the game is.
The fact is that this is just another shit game in a long line of shit games overpromising and underdelivering but yet this one has an active war going on and i am personally not understanding why this is the one we are going to fight over.
there is clearly a movement behind the game and i'm just trying to understand.
The only explanation i've had so far was "a guy on gaf wanted it to be good, so he went overboard defending it".
I just can't get worked up over that personally, i don't know about you.
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StreetsofBeige
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Supposedly the ex-Rockstar guy got $150M worth of investors money to put this studio together.
What a waste of money. Wave any project in an investing company's face with "lead by a former XXXXXX studio employee" and money goes ape shit wild like it's the dot.com craze of 1999 where everyone thinks if they invest $1,000 they'll turn it into $1,000,000.
That's tech for ya. Always endless buckets of cash.
What a waste of money. Wave any project in an investing company's face with "lead by a former XXXXXX studio employee" and money goes ape shit wild like it's the dot.com craze of 1999 where everyone thinks if they invest $1,000 they'll turn it into $1,000,000.
That's tech for ya. Always endless buckets of cash.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Holy shit seriously? Sounds like this is a lot more than just some no name AA game
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Sorry man but I don't see it. You keep saying the game is being hated on way more than other titles, but is it? I don't do social-media, only browse NeoGAF and 4chan when it comes to videogames... on 4chan I've seen 1 thread and it's about the devs shutting down some streamers, and here on GAF I've seen 3 threads, the OT, the CCU one, and another one prior to release stating the poor state the game was going to release on.
I don't see this being any different than when people were were shitting on Unknown 9 (took me a few moments to remember the name lol), just some poorly produced game.
Maybe things are different on social media?
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Kacho
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It's this generations Daikatana
Giallo Corsa
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Sony seems to be giving now refunds for this game and "investigate the situation".
Ex-GTA lead’s MindsEye is such a technical disaster that PlayStation is giving out refunds
Ex-GTA lead's MindsEye is such a technical disaster that even Sony are willing to offer refunds through the PlayStation store.
Refunds ? Holy shit...
It's a smear campaign by Sony i tell ya, now, where's Mmarsu ?
Kacho
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Dazraell
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nowhat
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StueyDuck
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Unknown 9 had a reason, though. there was a movement against Sweet baby inc and DEI in games. I could see the argument being made, while I did agree in that particular case, there was at least an argument being made that i could understand why someone could want the game to fail above other games that are just plain bad that people forget after a week.
look I am not going to go and google all the articles written by the usual journos and find you all the threads and highlight messages and so on and so forth, I purely just don't care enough about this game to go and do that. if you don't believe me, then that's good for you, more power to you.
you don't have to agree with me, that's fine, but don't say i'm shutting down criticism and try to gaslight me instead of engaging me. You know that was dishonest because i have yet to say the game is anything but a dud, wank, rubbish, lowsy, a mess (i can go on if you would like)
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.
StueyDuck
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OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.
Hawk The Slayer
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Never heard of this game until now, seem a quick youtube video on it. And it looks alright and the story about taking down the threat to humanity aka A.I seems alright. But there's better things to spend my mulas on. Just got Stellar Blade and still saving the rest for upcoming indie games like Ground Zero, Phase Zero, Deepest Fear, Tormented Souls 2 etc etc.
TerribleAtThisGame
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Sony seems to be giving now refunds for this game and "investigate the situation".
Ex-GTA lead’s MindsEye is such a technical disaster that PlayStation is giving out refunds
Ex-GTA lead's MindsEye is such a technical disaster that even Sony are willing to offer refunds through the PlayStation store.
Mystery solved. It's been Sony all along!!!
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.
Aww. It's not often you see an internet argument end this way. Very mature of you two. I just have to say, what's wrong with you guys? Come on, keep fighting! Don't give up so easily!
TerribleAtThisGame
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Refunds ? Holy shit...
It's a smear campaign by Sony i tell ya, now, where's Mmarsu ?
Him, Chucky and that Brad Pitt muhfucka are currently in their fortress of doom plotting a terrorist attack on this thread.
Killer8
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Behold, the no social or political agenda:
"Vega is a populist politician with no real unity to her policies other than that they are all somehow designed to profit her personally."
Antagonist is a populist politician, supporters wear red hats, uses four letter slogans ending in A... I really wonder who that is meant to be a stand-in for?
"Vega is a populist politician with no real unity to her policies other than that they are all somehow designed to profit her personally."
Antagonist is a populist politician, supporters wear red hats, uses four letter slogans ending in A... I really wonder who that is meant to be a stand-in for?
nowhat
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OK man, I'll admit that was a bit uncalled for so. It's just that I found your claim of the "over-hating" to be a bit weird but I guess you have your reasons for that and I'm just not able to see them.
Let's not argue about this shitty game anymore, and here's hoping our next interaction will be a happier one.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
PleazureDome
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This game is Stillborn...I look forward to playing it when its added to the free PS+ collection in the next 3 months.
StueyDuck
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Embearded
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Damn...
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
StreetsofBeige
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LOL. Relax Alan.
There's endless millions of people in the world who also make products for companies you can hold in your hand. Big difference is many of them work on great products at successful companies, where nobody else but a video game worker gloats about making a lousy buggy product.
StreetsofBeige
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More reviews slowing coming out on Metacritic. Getting nailed. IGN and Guardian gave it 4/10. On Open critic some no name site was added called Beta Network giving 4/10 too.
Unless this game gets some scores propping it up, it's going to be a 40-45 score game. lol
This game might not even get tons of reviews as there were no review copies and it's so bad some sites might not even bother. If that happens, all it takes is a couple 7s or 8s and that overall score will jump up 5 or 10 pts alone.
www.metacritic.com
Unless this game gets some scores propping it up, it's going to be a 40-45 score game. lol
This game might not even get tons of reviews as there were no review copies and it's so bad some sites might not even bother. If that happens, all it takes is a couple 7s or 8s and that overall score will jump up 5 or 10 pts alone.
MindsEye critic reviews
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