Billbill-kun: Horizon Lego is day 1 on PC and PS5

xHunter said:
Steam isnt microsofts platform.
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AV said:
Way too much arguing over petty details.

It's not nothing but it's also not a complete reversal on what Hulst said. It's (yet another) small needle move, a very good one they can take a look at.
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Yeah.....definitely a step in the right direction.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
So if this is true, it basically means Herman & Hideki lied.

I can't wait to see the Cult of Herman-Hideki come out to defend this move. You know, the same ones who were adamant non-GAAS for big titles would never come to PC, then changed that to Never Day 1, and will undoubtedly change that again if this rumor becomes true.

I sure as hell won't be one of those defending blatant hypocrisy. Didn't do that with Microsoft, why would I do that with SIE/Sony?



At this point I'm just waiting for the "no PC version until January 2025" fine print for Astro Bot.

Doesn't even matter if "the rest" isn't Day 1; the windows between versions could get shrunk and that would still be a blatant hypocrisy vs. what was said at the business update (that is what I'm calling it) on May 30th.

Starting to look like we lost a real one in favor of two Phil Spencers at SIE 😢



Yep. This is how it starts. I mean it's only a new game in the Horizon series, the series that's already sold like 30 million copies between two installments. Just a small rinky-dink IP nobody knows about (/s).

Also my question is, if Lego Horizon is Day 1 on PC, why not make Astro Bot Day 1 on PC too? Why keep that exclusive to PS5 at this point? Now we're gonna have to sit through insufferable media asking that question for the next 3-4 months leading up to Astro's release.
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Knee jerk much?

Sony can only have full control over what their internal studios do, so it's highly likely Hulst was talking about Playstation Studios games when talking about first party and PC. And that's the only concern in my opinion, if/when an internal first party game (other than MLB but we know why that is) is released on PC day one then we can talk about the need to even have a console.

This is an unusual one though, it's a Sony IP, published by Sony (it seems), but licensed and developed (and very likely funded, which is key here) by a third party.
 
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Represent. said:
do not care about this kiddy trash. announce a real game.

Astro.. concord.. lego.. target audience for all 3 combined is about 10.

come on herman.
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Even kids wouldn't care about this IP.

It's not a popular mature movie receiving a kids cartoon or toy line kind of deal like Robocop or Terminator.
 
AmuroChan said:
Makes sense. It's not a PS Studios game. It's a LEGO game licensing a Sony IP.
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IMO that's semantics. It's a non-GAAS game based on one of SIE's biggest IPs by far, and it's at least of a similar scope to Astro Bot.

So now the question's gonna be, why isn't Astro Bot Day 1 on PC too? You KNOW everyone's going to be asking that if this rumor is true. And it's not like SIE don't capitulate immediately to frothing, demanding PCMR Steam fanboys. We saw that clearly with the Helldivers 2 stuff.

Fact is, Herman said only a week ago, that non-GAAS titles would NOT by Day 1 on PC. He might've said "tentpole", sure, but we know they meant non-GAAS in general because SIE only really make tentpole traditional titles as-is. And so what if this is made by a 3P? It's still a SIE IP and one of their tentpole IP at that.

Now I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop with Astro Bot, and hear a PC version coming 3-6 months after console. Probably for cheaper, too. The whole optics in their PC strategy is increasingly detrimental to the console.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
Boiling frog….no that is Xbox's strategy

Sorry, anyone with a brain knows that a Lego licensed game comes with lots of caveats surrounding it
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I have a pretty decent brain and we can just agree to disagree because most see this for what it is, a baby step in said certain direction


analog_future said:
  • "No first party Playstation property will ever come to PC"
  • "No first party Playstation property will ever come day-and-date to PC"
  • "No first party Playstation property will ever come day-and-date to PC unless it's multiplayer"
  • "No first party Playstation property will ever come day-and-date to PC unless it's multiplayer or a horror remake"
  • "No first party Playstation property will ever come day-and-date to PC unless it's multiplayer, a horror remake, or a family game" <- YOU ARE HERE
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
I have a pretty decent brain and we can just agree to disagree because most see this for what it is, a baby step in said certain direction
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It's not ANY STEP in any direction until a Sony first party studio tent pole game releases day and date on PC

Unless you are expecting Sony to start making crossover IPs such as a Ghost of Tsushima Nerf games it's nothing more than a unique circumstance
 
midnightAI said:
Knee jerk much?

Sony can only have full control over what their internal studios do
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WHAT!? No they don't! 🤣 This is SONY'S IP, so THEY dictate the terms, including what platforms the game is for! You can't sit here and tell me they couldn't force the dev to make this a PS5 exclusive, when they were able to convince Square-Enix to make Rebirth a PS5 exclusive and SIE have way less ownership over that IP or dev than they do this. Same for Stellar Blade, and Rise of the Ronin.

midnightAI said:
, so it's highly likely Hulst was talking about Playstation Studios games when talking about first party and PC. And that's the only concern in my opinion, if/when an internal first party game (other than MLB but we know why that is) is released on PC day one then we can talk about the need to even have a console.
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No, we need to have that conversation now. Not when it's too late, because with stuff like this the slippery slope is already picking up downhill momentum.

Like I said, this is how it starts. Next time, it'll be Horizon 3. If you lay down and just go along with what the greedy shareholders & investors at Sony/SIE want, then by the time you'll finally want to point it out, you won't have any leverage or room to criticize anymore. You'd have waited too long.

midnightAI said:
This is an unusual one though, it's a Sony IP, published by Sony (it seems), but licensed and developed (and very likely funded, which is key here) by a third party.
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Exactly. Which is why I was surprised with what you first said. Because SIE have all the leverage in this dynamic, just like they did with Helldivers 2.

iHaunter said:
Anything it takes to get up in the morning eh?
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Where do we draw the line then? What do we use to finally say, "yeah, that's just like Xbox"?

James Sawyer Ford said:
So why isn't Astro bot day one on PC if this is some seismic shift in strategy?
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. Did they really just mean 1P internally-developed non-GAAS when they said no Day 1 on PC? Because that is an awfully limited range to cap things at. SIE doesn't have enough studios to produce a sufficient number of PlayStation exclusives releasing annually. So they'd have to turn to 3P co-development and 3P timed exclusives to fill out the release pipeline.

But, if every 3P co-developed game based on their IP, whether GAAS or not, is Day 1 PC, how does that solve the issue of release pipeline on the console when it comes to exclusives? Especially if 3P timed exclusives aren't as much going forward as they've been in the past (which is already a lot less than they had in the PS4 gen)?

Once again, this PC strategy of Sony's is just screwing so many things up console-wise. Almost unbelievable how anyone high-up decided this was a preferred initiative.
 
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adamsapple said:
SIE published game, based on one of their big IPs is not a Sony game now.


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I know you're trolling or have a low IQ, but this is a Lego game, not a horizon game. In the sense that Lego is the overarching brand and they make things related to a lot of IP's, like Fortnite.

It's like when Kratos' Fortnite skin was available on Switch, that must mean they're now day and date on switch (PS games)
 
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tmlDan said:
I know you're trolling or have low a IQ, but this is a Lego game, not a horizon game. In the sense that Lego is the overarching brand and they make things related to a lot of IP's, like Fortnite.

It's like when Kratos' Fortnite skin was available on Switch, that must mean they're now day and date on switch (PS games)
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You're comparing a full game release to a skin. Right.
 
So this is a live service game?

"Bilbill-kun also adds in his report that the game will be available on day one on both PlayStation 5 and PC, which is in line with PlayStation's latest comments on releasing live-service games together on both platforms. "

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LEGO Horizon Adventures to be Announced at Summer Game Fest

A new report has detailed that LEGO Horizon Adventures will be revealed during Summer Game Fest.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
WHAT!? No they don't! 🤣 This is SONY'S IP, so THEY dictate the terms, including what platforms the game is for! You can't sit here and tell me they couldn't force the dev to make this a PS5 exclusive, when they were able to convince Square-Enix to make Rebirth a PS5 exclusive and SIE have way less ownership over that IP or dev than they do this. Same for Stellar Blade, and Rise of the Ronin.

No, we need to have that conversation now. Not when it's too late, because with stuff like this the slippery slope is already picking up downhill momentum.

Like I said, this is how it starts. Next time, it'll be Horizon 3. If you lay down and just go along with what the greedy shareholders & investors at Sony/SIE want, then by the time you'll finally want to point it out, you won't have any leverage or room to criticize anymore. You'd have waited too long.

Exactly. Which is why I was surprised with what you first said. Because SIE have all the leverage in this dynamic, just like they did with Helldivers 2.
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The difference is.....
Lego most likely paid Sony to use Sony's IP, not Sony paying a developer for the rights to publish their game, that's a big difference.
Rise of Ronin and Stellar Blade were funded (either fully or partially) by Sony, that's what makes those games first party games, if it was merely publishing only they wouldn't be first party they would be third party published by Sony. Even Rebirth is paid for exclusivity. Even those games could have come to PC day and date, it depends on the agreement.

Either way, there is a huge difference between a third party developed game (whether first party published or not) and a first party internally developed Sony game coming day and date and that was my point, we can have this conversation again when that happens.
 
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