Dragon Age: The Veilguard lets you choose top surgery scars in character creator

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I have a feeling, one of these choices will fit like a glove to describe the game sales.
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

Stop looking at things as 'woke' and 'non-woke' at every single little tiny angle of games…it's fucking tiring…just judge the games as they are.
 
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And some scars are cool,
Yeah i know but following the original poster's logic i was responding to, someone could find the same issue with other type of scars reminding them of traumatizing accidents not just surgeries.
At the end of the day its just another character customization option in a role playing game, imo its not a big deal but i know most people will disagree with that here.
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

Stop looking at things as 'woke' and 'non-woke' at every single little tiny angle of games…it's fucking tiring…just judge them as the games they are.
Thing is, trans surgery scars are absolutely objectively the perfect use for the term, woke.

Now, is it enough to push me over the edge to buy it or not? No, not really. (as for me the game just looks ugly visually) If you really digging the game then this option being there shouldnt hold you back for buying it.

But lets not be disingenuous and try to claim it isnt "woke" for the devs to put this modern concept of fem to male top surgery scars into the character creator.
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

Stop looking at things as 'woke' and 'non-woke' at every single little tiny angle of games…it's fucking tiring…just judge the games as they are.

mastectomy scars, breasts can only be A cup size, asses can only be flat, terminology to avoid calling a character male and female.
it is clearly the developers pushing an agenda, and not about inclusivity.

you can make a gender-nonspecific character that got its breasts removed, but you literally can't recreate yourself if you look too sexy for their liking.

developers like this shouldn't be supported 🤷‍♂️
 
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Thing is, trans surgery scars are absolutely objectively the perfect use for the term, woke.

Now, is it enough to push me over the edge to buy it or not? No, not really. (as for me the game just looks ugly visually) If you really digging the game then this option being there shouldnt hold you back for buying it.

But lets not be disingenuous and try to claim it isnt "woke" for the devs to put this modern concept of fem to male top surgery scars into the character creator.
There's the myth of Amazon's cutting off their breasts to fire bows properly (fitting a mythological angle), there are people who have cancer and have to have mastectomies...it's an option in a character creator and you are arguing against options because…'woke'….
 
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just judge the games as they are.
Dragons Dogma Character Creator and gameplay is objectively better then Dragon Age Veilguards by a landslide.

All the scars and tattoos in DD2 are badass and can be placed in multiple places and rotated for some great designs to your Arisen and Main Pawn.

And DD2 can have skinny, fat, ugly, sexy, absolutely monstrous creations. The creativity one can have is incredible. So much that you can even recreate Shadowheart and even Lae'zel from BG3. And later on skin colors for just about any hue. So much so paired with Eye Color options you can even create Chiss looking characters from Star Wars. So cool.

And also is devoid of the tiresome IRL nonsense Gamers do not want to see or hear in their games. And if there is any it isn't rammed into your face.

If I had to give any positivity to Veilguards Character Creation it's that the hair physics are really good beyond that though I think in the grand scheme of things I prefer Dragon Age Origins character creation over anything Veilguard has shown off.

Although maybe that's unfair because choosing a Race and Origin Story actually added to and changed your experience in playthroughs through unique Prologues, certain Quests and interactions that encouraged additional playthroughs. Here I see no such thing.

And if we were to talk value between Dogma and Dragon Age which Character Creator would you be more willing to spend $70 for? Dogma easily. No contest.

But I do not need to remind you of such things I think.
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

Stop looking at things as 'woke' and 'non-woke' at every single little tiny angle of games…it's fucking tiring…just judge the games as they are.
The real question is, are you ok with the T&A reduction as well? That is the real travesty.
 
All the scars and tattoos in DD2 are badass and can be placed in multiple places and rotated for some great designs to your Arisen and Main Pawn.

And DD2 can have skinny, fat, ugly, sexy, absolutely monstrous creations. The creativity one can have is incredible. So much that you can even recreate Shadowheart and even Lae'zel from BG3. And later on skin colors for just about any hue. So much so paired with Eye Color options you can even create Chiss looking characters from Star Wars. So cool.

And also is devoid of the tiresome IRL nonsense Gamers do not want to see or hear in their games. And if there is any it isn't rammed into your face.

If I had to give any positivity to Veilguards Character Creation it's that the hair physics are really good beyond that though I think in the grand scheme of things I prefer Dragon Age Origins character creation over anything Veilguard has shown off.

Although maybe that's unfair because choosing a Race and Origin Story actually added to and changed your experience in playthroughs through unique Prologues, certain Quests and interactions that encouraged additional playthroughs. Here I see no such thing.

And if we were to talk value between Dogma and Dragon Age which Character Creator would you be more willing to spend $70 for? Dogma easily. No contest.

But I do not need to remind you of such things I think.
Am I arguing an AI? The game isn't out yet…
 
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The real question is, are you ok with the T&A reduction as well? That is the real travesty.
While I enjoy sexuality in games, is that the goal of my gaming? No.

And secondly the last game was Cassandra, Josephene and Sera as female romance options (and it was the best selling Bioware game of all time according to the other thread)…did they ever really have major T&A? No, not even with Morrigan…
 
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So after years of bitching about unrealistic body exposure in female armor not a single one of these hypocrites should be going into battle their chestsnipls showing.
 
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I live in a world where I read the meetings minutes from local school board meetings where multiple parents of different backgrounds bring these books that are in the school libraries of the local school district to the school board and read excerpts from the books and ask the school board how they can justify these being in middle schools. Those excerpts from the books include vivid descriptions of lewd sexual acts. Try again.
You live in a world where parents go to middle school libraries and scout through all the books looking for descriptions of sexual acts. Yeah, that is completely normal behavior for grown adults.

Fact is middle school libraries don't carry any books any different than when I was in middle school. I live in a state where they banned such sexually depraved books (their words not mine) from school curriculums like "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Romeo & Juliet", "1984", "Outsiders", and "Stephen King's It", and about 400 books in total. I didn't see the most violent and sexually depraved book of all-time on that list though, "The Holy Bible".

But good luck on your advocacy for book bannings. I am sure it will lead to great things.
 
I live in a world where I read the meetings minutes from local school board meetings where multiple parents of different backgrounds bring these books that are in the school libraries of the local school district to the school board and read excerpts from the books and ask the school board how they can justify these being in middle schools. Those excerpts from the books include vivid de
Spare me the histrionics, kids are exposed to much worse things on their cell phones and their computers at home.
 
I feel that the category of women with big tits and ass is not represented in the character creation. Thats diacrimination. I think there are more percentage wise than the ones with "top surgery"
 
There's the myth of Amazon's cutting off their breasts to fire bows properly (fitting a mythological angle), there are people who have cancer and have to have mastectomies...it's an option in a character creator and you are arguing against options because…'woke'….
You are absolutely INSANE if you DONT think that the inclusion for top scars in this game are specifically targeting fem to male trans.

Like, dude just stop it. Stop.
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

The mastectomy scars are included as a way of promoting and celebrating irreversible surgery performed on healthy girls and women suffering from a mental health condition that requires proper counselling, support and a lack of ideologically driven agenda. They are being let down by a system and a culture that pushed them into scarring themselves both physically and mentally for life.

That sets this specific thing apart from all the other tedious bullshit.
 
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vitiligo is another weird one that more games are putting in. what an absurd thing to put in a game. should we put a psoriasis slider too?
 
vitiligo is another weird one that more games are putting in. what an absurd thing to put in a game. should we put a psoriasis slider too?
Okay this legit made me lol. Stretch marks are a thing too in this creator too ya? Or maybe thinking of sims xD
 
Why would you want the scars though? Those scars aren't s badge of honor they are a reminder, like a dead name. What's with this new trend of wanting to be trans instead of being the opposite gender. Surely just make the charecter look like you aspire to be not whatever state they're in now
 
They allow a huge amount of customization in character creation in Dragon's Dogma 2, and that gets praised for it's customization and allows childlike characters… This game sticks mastectomy scars in (before we even have the character creator) and it's suddenly a line to far? Fuck right off..

Stop looking at things as 'woke' and 'non-woke' at every single little tiny angle of games…it's fucking tiring…just judge the games as they are.
I have to agree, this hyperbole and "wishing for something to fail" because it's a tad left field or outlandish in it's "woke agenda" isn't constructive or helpful to anyone.

I get the "outrage" but at the same time, I've been seeing incredibly positive previews from various outlets.

Having said that, I don't like how the characters "assets" are so torn down to the point where you're thinking of the opposite of "attractive". This agenda to self-censor and abolish titillation is really tiring to me.

Either way, maybe I'm also being hyperbole and manipulated by nonsense I'm seeing here and there.

I hope this game ends up being stupid good and wins. The gaming sphere needs more positivity and success stories. No matter how you align yourself.
 
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but do something constructive about it - not playing this is not that.
Yes it is lol

And while that's likely trans coded, quite an appreciable number of women undergo mastectomy to fight breast cancer. A friend had one some years ago…sadly still passed away when the cancer came back.

Ah, well
What a horrible way to make this about yourself.

You yourself are stating that breast cancer is horribly common, yet no character creator has decided to do something about it, ever. But now that top surgery is the so called hot new trend among trans people (and even kids), they plop that shit in.

If you don't see how thats incredibly disingenious and practically a middle finger to actual breast cancer survivors, then I don't know that to tell you.
 
Unfortunately, yes.
No wonder boob slider can max to actual 100%, he can't achieve it in real life.
When looking at videos it's genuinely frustrating to see how limited the creation tool is, yet previewers are raving about it.
Modders have work to do here as always with western games. Some days it feels like the world is healing but I guess these big projects starting before the healing process started needs to be flushed out first.
 
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Bro really compared the game of the generation, a Harry Potter IP, a Spider-Man IP and the biggest Sony IP of the last decade to fuckin Dragon Age.

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So your problem isn't that it's 'woke', you just go with performative outrage when you're convinced the stakes are low?

Not completely unexpected.

Yes it is lol


What a horrible way to make this about yourself.

You yourself are stating that breast cancer is horribly common, yet no character creator has decided to do something about it, ever. But now that top surgery is the so called hot new trend among trans people (and even kids), they plop that shit in.

If you don't see how thats incredibly disingenious and practically a middle finger to actual breast cancer survivors, then I don't know that to tell you.

'Top surgery' just became a thing in 2024?

News to me.

This shit is optional, in an M rated game. They're not corrupting your kids, and nobody I know in the real world is going to turn on top surgery scars.

I don't see how adding that as an option translates as a 'middle finger' to breast cancer survivors, many of which have come round to embracing their scars. But we can agree to disagree.
 
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