Dragon Age: The Veilguard lets you choose top surgery scars in character creator
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nial
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Lol nah, modern Twitter is 4chan-lite at this point. They're getting destroyed right now for sure.
Fess
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Okay now it all makes sense. And now I doubt that western big media previews and reviews can be trusted. PC Gamer is already doing their thing raving about it like Concord and SW Outlaws, haven't checked IGN but I suspect high praise there, and Kotaku of course.They assembled a team
Who're unbiased on these things?
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Dr Cowley
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After seeing more videos I've realised the charecter creator is actually trans phobic. You can only make 'visibly trans' characters, ones that dont pass. The developers seem to ignore a large portion on the trans community who put in effort to transitioning instead of putting on a wig and adopting a cunty disposition.
There is a youtuber named Blair white who's videos I saw a while back, no chance of making a charecter who looks like her in this game.
There is a youtuber named Blair white who's videos I saw a while back, no chance of making a charecter who looks like her in this game.
PeteBull
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Definitely not ones getting free copies aka previewers/day1 reviewers, there are few trully independed youtubers that are not politically correct but from big outlets- 0 or almost 0.
GymWolf
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Curvy women don't need representation is the new "you can't be racist to whites".
Just retardation all around.
This is what happens when you hire devs not based on their skills, but for the sake if dIvErSiTy.They assembled a team
Good quality, dark fantasy franchise becomes violet neon mobile game focusing on all the wrong things.
Please cance next Mass Effect...do not destroy another franchise.
Fess
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If someone has put in effort to transition to a woman, as you say, and want to make themselves in a character editor, then they could just choose to make a woman. No?
Dr Cowley
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Yes they could choose to make a woman but the creator limits the breast and ass sizes meaning you can only make a certain type of woman
Fess
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That is very true but that's just the usual curvy woman shaming western devs has been doing for a decade or so. I use mods to correct that whenever possible.
laynelane
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Does BioWare take any of these criticisms to heart or do they stick to their vision? Turning off big head mode makes a huge difference.
And unless we're mistaken they really need to buff the T&A sliders. It's ridiculous being limited to an A cup.
I cannot even imagine the reasoning behind making the characters have big heads like that. Maybe a stylistic choice, but even that makes no sense. After seeing the change to normal sized heads, it made me realize why they looked so uncanny before.
Considering how Bioware has been ignoring all criticism up until now, I wouldn't be surprised if they just carry on doing so. And in that case, I hope the sales of the game reflect that.
Begleiter
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It's going to be very funny when the usage reports come in and everyone just made a white warrior dude again.
I also think people are being a bit unfair. BioWare knows that a part of their audience is made up of Tumblr losers who fetishise things like vitiligo, trans surgery scars and being horribly overweight. These are real people who do spend real money on BioWare games. Some of them even made it into the company to work on the game! It's not unreasonable to give them weird shit like this in the character editor. Where the error is being made is forgetting that they're not the majority of the game buying public and you should always want it to be possible to make a broad range of characters, even if 90% are just going to make warrior dude.
I also think people are being a bit unfair. BioWare knows that a part of their audience is made up of Tumblr losers who fetishise things like vitiligo, trans surgery scars and being horribly overweight. These are real people who do spend real money on BioWare games. Some of them even made it into the company to work on the game! It's not unreasonable to give them weird shit like this in the character editor. Where the error is being made is forgetting that they're not the majority of the game buying public and you should always want it to be possible to make a broad range of characters, even if 90% are just going to make warrior dude.
elbourreau
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I will enjoy when it will bomb.
Note tjat I am not using IF it will bomb. Because it will.
Note tjat I am not using IF it will bomb. Because it will.
MrTroubleMaker
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Shake Your Rump
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I hesitate to posting a direct reply off-topic but…
Please take a long vacation from social media. Maybe the internet completely. You are so far down the rabbit hole. You may not even realize it. It isn't too late to climb back out.
Click ignore thread. Log out. Put your phone on silent and place it in another room. Then go play some video games.
Chuck Berry
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struggler_guts
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RCX
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Bombolone
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Check the ban page. When they had the new member rush a month or so ago, it went as expected.
Some bots, trolls, astroturfers and yes people from Discords with marching orders.
At least here they are 'forced' to engage in conversations where ideas/stances/opinions are challenged. You can definitely see/feel the change in discourse around the internet. Nobody is getting cancelled the next day for an opinion. People feel more comfortable having difficult discussions. You can tell some have never had to move past the "you bigot!" in a conversation.
Because of that you get the predictable "Reeeeee" energy.
The Infectious Paradox
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Can I add scars from the glass jar that collapsed in my ass?
Don't ignore our people!
Don't ignore our people!
Bombolone
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You don't want to know. I didn't want to know.
It is grotesque IMO. Butchering of the body.
How do we even know its her left hand?...
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Chuck Berry
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Imru’ al-Qays
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Hope this game crashes and burns
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Not surprising in the least. They talk a big game about "diversity", "representation", "inclusion" etc.
But more that, they want to take the "privileged classes" (aka straight white men and attractive feminine women) down a few pegs. They are bitter, resentful, spiteful people. They always show their true colors sooner or later.
It's for their target audience
ChorizoPicozo
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the characters are Concord levels of hideous. remind me of the show Lazy Town
hopefully is a flop of that magnitude, even better if the game is actually great. it would send a stronger and clear message.
hopefully is a flop of that magnitude, even better if the game is actually great. it would send a stronger and clear message.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
As if making it mandatory to add fucking pronouns didn't put me off, then adding a slider for breast size that goes all the way up to fuck-all-cup, then adding a pandering toggle for tit scars cause yeah that makes sense in a medieval fantasy world but hey you've now covered those 6people in the world that'll play your game and pissed off the thousands who now won't buy it...
I just watched some gameplay... Jesus H Noodle Monster, what in the Mobile Game Looking Fortnite shit is this??? This game looks truly awful, I was actually gonna look past the "modern" character creator for a decent western RPG but c'mon, this game looks beyond terrible and it's not the "modern" shoehorned in panderstuff that's gonna kill it, it's the fact that it looks so bad for a AAA 2024 game... Christ Bioware, y'all are fucked.
I just watched some gameplay... Jesus H Noodle Monster, what in the Mobile Game Looking Fortnite shit is this??? This game looks truly awful, I was actually gonna look past the "modern" character creator for a decent western RPG but c'mon, this game looks beyond terrible and it's not the "modern" shoehorned in panderstuff that's gonna kill it, it's the fact that it looks so bad for a AAA 2024 game... Christ Bioware, y'all are fucked.
Kacho
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recursive
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No. By pretending to be morally superior you are part of the problem. This shit has been ignored for too long which has let the loonies take over. This nonsense needs to be called out and ridiculed publicly. What you subscribe to is the slippery slope which we have been sliding on for too long.
Angry_Megalodon
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Because the ones calling the shots are literally deranged. They live in a clown world, they are unable to see. As for the others, they are cowards who won't speak up even if their jobs are on the line.
Bombolone
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Timeline:
Woke in bios —> cancel all critical thinkers (isms, shaming, bullying, mob rule) —> use media outlets to gaslight and spin —> oh you are just as bad as the other side —> what is even woke guys? lol c'mon —> oh guys, all you see is woke just don't buy the game, game isn't for you (games flop) —> !!! —> economic terrorism —> its just a feature don't have to use it, ignore it…
They are on a sinking ship, grabbing and clawing anything as a life preserver.
Aguero9320
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I'm not pretending to be morally superior…
I literally do not give one shit. Your insecurity is showing. This is a character creator - they aren't forcing you to play as a character. Make a character however you want. No need to exclude anyone. The more options the better, surely? Ethnicities, fantasy races, haircuts, disabilities, scars, whatever. Who gives a fuck? It increases the "role playing" options and remains 100% that - an option.
If pixel scars are offensive to you, or make you nervous they will somehow convert you into another gender in real life, just leave the switch set to off. Or don't play it at all if the temptation is too strong. Transgender people exist, and shock horror, they might like games too, and maybe want to create a character that is like them? Is that so horrible?
No need to get the pitchforks out, or hope for people to lose their jobs and have their lives ruined.
Laptop1991
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I'd just like a big game to come out without any of this stuff in and just be a really good game, that would be nice for a change, you never know it might sell more unlike most of the modern new AAA games have recently.
Dazraell
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I feel a lot of execs are nervously squirming after Acolyte's cancellation and Concord's failure
I do wonder what EA's sales expectations are. Inquisition was apparently BioWare's highest selling game ever. There is no chance Veilguard will be even remotely close to its numbers
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peek
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Mister Wolf
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That's the plan.
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Angry_Megalodon
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- There's a need to exclude if that breaks the lore/immersion. In an RPG options must be consistent with the worldbuilding they have created. If "everything's good" it means the worldbuilding sucks. Leaving ideologies out of the room, those real-life scars as a result of a sex operation are moronic in a game that doesn't happen in our world. This is hardly arguable.
- Another point is that some real-life women have proved that they can't make a character with their own bodies, which demonstrates that the inclusion is limited to the creator's fetishes. Why don't you extend your argument to all types of women, too?
This is the problem of having egomaniacs leading a project. For contrast, think of The Matrix saga. It was made by two trans, and you can see their aesthetic influence in the movies (a lot of leather, underground clubs, etc) but that never takes the center of the stage. Unfortunately, it's not the case here.
- As for people losing their jobs, others were pushed out to favor these ones. I have more sympathy for those who couldn't play the identity card to get that position.
