SyberWolf
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framerate does look rough in several parts of the video, most likely series x footage.
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INDIANA JONES New Egypt Gameplay Demo
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kruis
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It looks more unique, it doesn't look more fun than Uncharted/Tomb Raider.
clarky
Gold Member
This is the problem with doing an Indy game, as it will always draw comparisons to these 2 IP's.
To be fair nobody can do Uncharted like ND so unlikely they would best that if they went that route and I think they would be foolish to try. Tomb Raider on the other hand has had its day. Like I Said earlier in the thread I'm happy its not clone of one of these two, I found even U4 kinda boring tbh.
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RetroGamingUK
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BigLee74
Member
I’m optimistic about this. It looks very atmospheric, and importantly, in keeping with all the films.
As long as the puzzles are good, and it contains some epic set pieces, then I will probably don a Fedora, oil myself up and have fun.
Indy should NOT be a shooter and I really hope the guns are limited. I will admit the combat needs to be solid though - and on that the jury is still out.
As long as the puzzles are good, and it contains some epic set pieces, then I will probably don a Fedora, oil myself up and have fun.
Indy should NOT be a shooter and I really hope the guns are limited. I will admit the combat needs to be solid though - and on that the jury is still out.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Dont care.
I want 1 to 1 control over characters, regardless of the genre.
Overly complex animations always introduce weirdness in controls.
It's still could be a banger... at least on a second playthroughYes I want an amazing Indy game
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Topher
Identifies as young
If the third person perspective works best for the gameplay then that's what they should have done regardless of what came before. Spider-man is continuously compared to Batman due to the fact that Insomniac utilized the same core combat design. But that is part of what makes Spider-man fun to play so for many games trying to reinvent the wheel doesn't make sense. Everything I'm seeing in this game screams "third person action game" to me. I think avoiding the most obvious gameplay perspective for the type of game being created simply to avoid comparisons is a mistake. Doesn't mean I think the game will be a failure. As always, I hope it is a kick ass game.
digdug2
Member
This footage is a major bummer, from a performance standpoint. You see gnarly framerate drops starting about 2 seconds into the gameplay. It'll probably look better in person though with VRR (though those frame dips look like they are getting really low, way lower than the 40fps VRR floor)...
I'm interested in seeing how it will look on the PS5 Pro.
I'm interested in seeing how it will look on the PS5 Pro.
clarky
Gold Member
Aye, maybe. Theif, Dishonoured and Riddick work really well though (to name a few)and this kinda looks like what they are going for so if done right they might pull it off.
Jurys out but fingers crossed. It certainly looks the part.
As always MS marketing is fucking terrible. Why not just show us the full opening level or similar and one or two big set peices?
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Topher
Identifies as young
Hopefully they nail the puzzles. Indy figuring out how to get inside some mysterious vault was always the most fun part of the movies so they gotta get that stuff right.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yes, I do not understand this argument about not making it 3rd person just because of another game.
Imagine if the Tomb Raider devs thought the same and made the latest Tomb Raider trilogy a first-person game so it didn't draw Uncharted comparisons. If Tomb Raider could do a 3rd person game, even after Uncharted's success, Indiana Jones could have as well.
Otherwise, why is Obsidian making Avowed a first-person+third-person medieval fantasy RPG instead of a card-roguelike RPG, as Skyrim already exists?
There will always be multiple games similar to what's someone making. Devs need to be confident in their ability and try to deliver the best possible game in that genre. Shying away from competition is a surefire sign of low confidence in their own product.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Fuuuuck, the same punch sound effects as movies.
Crossing my fingers we get a good Indy game.
Crossing my fingers we get a good Indy game.
clarky
Gold Member
For me personally,like i said earlier, I have played Uncharted and Tomb Raider to death. Unless they could bring anything new to the table then we already have the perfect 3rd person Indy game in Uncharted 2.
I'm happy this is going for something different. Whether it turns out well or not is another story.
I do fully understand where both you and
Topher
are coming from though.
clarky
Gold Member
Shame the Punches don't seem to connect, just like the movies as well lol.
Laptop1991
Member
I'm not seeing these Dishonored comparison's personally, seeing as you can switch to high chaos at will in any part of Dishonored's gameplay and use the Sword, Guns and attacking Void powers anytime you like, it doesn't look like you can do that in this Indiana game, release day should be interesting.
clarky
Gold Member
I think it more that it appears to be going down the immersive sim route, not exactly like Dishonoured. I'm expecting Blade will scratch that specific itch.
Again MS' marketing is terrible, i'm surprised they managed to let everyone know COD is an FPS this year.
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Giallo Corsa
Member
Personally, I like very much what I'm seeing.
- Graphics look great
- music is on point
- voice acting is OK/nice
- there seems to be a good dose of both action, exploration, platforming etc.
The only bad thing I noticed in the 60fps videos are some weird framedrops even in non-taxing instances/scenarios like opening doors/quick camera switches etc etc, maybe they'll fix those, maybe they won't but so far everything seems to be A-OK and I'm not the biggest fan of FP view games either, it's just that this looks like what a "proper" Indy game should.
Besides, compared to the usual MS exclusive tripe they've been feeding us for over 3 years now this looks like a proper, quality game (the upcoming Doom also).
Hope it's varied enough and it's not short
- Graphics look great
- music is on point
- voice acting is OK/nice
- there seems to be a good dose of both action, exploration, platforming etc.
The only bad thing I noticed in the 60fps videos are some weird framedrops even in non-taxing instances/scenarios like opening doors/quick camera switches etc etc, maybe they'll fix those, maybe they won't but so far everything seems to be A-OK and I'm not the biggest fan of FP view games either, it's just that this looks like what a "proper" Indy game should.
Besides, compared to the usual MS exclusive tripe they've been feeding us for over 3 years now this looks like a proper, quality game (the upcoming Doom also).
Hope it's varied enough and it's not short
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What a weird conclusion to come to.
Just because they're not making it similar to other games, you're inclined to assume that Machine Games aren't confident in their ability to make the best possible game they can?
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Laptop1991
Member
i'm not sure what to make of it now after those vids, i'm more interested now to find out what type of game it is rarther than playing it, i saw Indy knock out a German who dropped an MP40 and i thought instantly in 1st person view, pick it up and use it lol,
Agree about MS!.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Level design, layouts, pacing etc seems from there.
Yet to see if its im sim or pure stealth game. Will have to play to know that. It does seem to have a variety of options to tackle enemies. But most of them seem to be different weapons, which points towards it being stealth title. Still, could have full featured systems, you never know.
Loboxxx
Member
The worst thing I see is just that, the first-person camera gives the feeling of driving a toy doll with his fists up...
In my opinion, for example Dying light on PS4 is far, far superior in this regard, the first person camera for melee combat works perfect and does not give a " puppet " feeling.
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Laptop1991
Member
Well it just reminded me of Wolfenstein seeing those levels and design which isn't surprising seeing as Machine Games made it, so we are seeing different things but yeah it seems a stealth. game with puzzles etc, from the combat and hidden areas, that we see the same.
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pasterpl
Member
But if the place is crawling with nazis if he would use that MP40 he would be found very quickly and probably shot on sight. He might kill couple of them but that’s it.
Laptop1991
Member
That applies to his melee and whip as well, and he would last longer with a machine gun! and it's in relation to the game being 1st person and looks like a shooter without being a shooter, that's what you do in FPS games in 1st person!, i think it should of been a 3rd person game now if it's going for stealth and exploration with hardly any combat except melee and whip.
If your going for realism then he wouldn't have survived any of the film's
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The Cockatrice
Banned
That looks rough af. Even as a huge Indie fan you'd have to be fucking blind to say this looks amazing when theres some jarring issues aside from the low fps. Who the fuck moves their hands like that when crawling lmao? The melee combat is atrocious. Everything looks safe. Taking pictures as Indie because why? Nice visuals/locations and thats about it. Even Troy Baker who I'm a massive fan sounds bored af voicing him.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
This review might help. It is specifically about what kind of game it is (at least from the writer's POV)
After 3 hours with Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, I don't think it's the grand adventure MachineGames is pitching—it's just a fairly basic stealth game
It's visually impressive and made with a clear love for the movies, but its action feels surprisingly limited.
Laptop1991
Member
The headline isn't good is it, i'll give it a read, cheers.This review might help. It is specifically about what kind of game it is (at least from the writer's POV)
After 3 hours with Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, I don't think it's the grand adventure MachineGames is pitching—it's just a fairly basic stealth game
It's visually impressive and made with a clear love for the movies, but its action feels surprisingly limited.www.pcgamer.com
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Indiana jones is exciting, I imagine they learned something from the N64 game.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Every time I see a demigod react I actually feel great. I think...what a pathetic human...at least I'm not that much of a sad plonker
Topher
Identifies as young
Laptop1991
Member
So basically what a lot of us have been saying the environments look good but it's basic stealth gameplay and no real excitement, so players might get bored after a while,This review might help. It is specifically about what kind of game it is (at least from the writer's POV)
After 3 hours with Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, I don't think it's the grand adventure MachineGames is pitching—it's just a fairly basic stealth game
It's visually impressive and made with a clear love for the movies, but its action feels surprisingly limited.
End quote
"There's a lot about The Great Circle that's impressive, especially its lush visuals, and though its sneaking is uneven, its little moments of chaos give it a distinct and charming personality. But the feeling I can't shake is that I'd rather be playing that adventure-action game MachineGames pitched than the stealth game compromise it's actually making"
clarky
Gold Member
Nobody is that much of a sad plonker except the man himself.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Firestartah
Banned
My main question with this game is if that woman will be preachy and annoying since that would ruin the game for me.
Topher
Identifies as young
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
clarky
Gold Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Poor framerate, poor AF, poor IQ (under also YT compression), controller prompts, lots of shadows pop-ins... This stinks Series X footage.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Nobody has shown up to say the combat here is brilliant. I can point you to some excellent online resources if you need help with your comprehension.
It’s just ludicrous that you expect combat from Indiana Jones - supposedly a professor - to be anywhere similar to that in Batman or Spiderman.
FFS, even Uncharted plays it smart with combat with clever use of cover and traversal to pick off enemies…and not jumping into crowds like Batman.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
You wouldn’t have quoted me if your green feathers weren’t ruffled…Hehe, I'm not going to worry about what a ps fanboy thinks
C’mon Denchy, that was meant to be cheeky anyway! Fix that Kumbaya disc so I can continue to like you!
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ultrazilla
Gold Member
I'm on a total media blackout with this game. Seriously, it *sounds* from initial previews that the game will end up being something special so I'm not going to spoil any of the game. Perhaps
it'll wash the bad taste out of my mouth with that last "movie".
it'll wash the bad taste out of my mouth with that last "movie".
Looks like a first person action adventure to me. Anyone who wants a third person action shooter in this setting will probably be happier with Uncharted. However, the game will probably stand or fall on how good the story is and how entertaining the puzzles and explorations are. In any case, if you expect Indiana Jones to be an testosterone action shooter, you're probably also watching the Yakuza or Rings of Power series on Amazon. That's the kind of projects where they shit on the source material and call it "creative interpretation".
It's funny how people conclude that the frame rate is bad when sequences are recorded/cut in 30 fps. In terms of performance, the ID Engine has always been very strong.
Let's see how it ends up. Microsoft Gaming has a special talent for getting mediocre projects out of good studios.