Too early, you aren't even on a second playthrough. Might become GOAT.
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Indiana Jones and The Great Circle | Review Thread
Punished Miku
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Not everyone. Its pretty much exactly what I expected. Most people are morons.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Most people are a lot less engaged than you or I. The average gamer doesn't have as much to form their impression on.
twilo99
Member
Yes.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Sure, that's obvious. I wasn't really talking about that though. Mostly commenting on people here that are surprised. They're surprised from a year of willful ignorance. You had to work hard to follow games news on here and not know what this was going to be. I told people it was an immersive sim from the Riddick devs and would just get laughed at. I told people you're an archeologist first and that the game was likely to be more unique than a typical Uncharted style platformer. People laughed for a year and said it sucks and should be 3rd person. Every time they showed the game it was puzzles first. Everyone knew Todd Howard was involved but instead they spent literally 12 months (dev direct was in January) posting the guy with a gay pride shirt.
People can continue being surprised in the future if they want to listen to idiots.
Fess
Member
I paid $100 to play 3 days early on Steam. Would’ve got it for free on GP. Worth it! GOTY
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Well yes there is also the problem of people who are far TOO engaged with console war or culture war bullshit as well. I sometimes wonder if people like this really like video games.
But while we might see a lot of that here, I don't know how much of the broader audiences is really like that, I think it's more people who just don't pay attention at all.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Gamepass it if $70 too much.
Everyone is different, I buy very few games full priced. If you regularly buy day 1 then this is worth buying too.
The only Xbox focused outlet with an outlier review was Pure Xbox with a 6/10 score that lowers the average.
But…
Deaf people are ‘woke’ now?
Apparently the professor who’s depicted as smart enough to outwit hordes of Nazis and street savvy enough to beat up soldiers with his fists is ‘emasculated’ in this game?
Your shtick here just reads like sour grapes. Move on.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
GymWolf
Member
I think they were born after the incident of chernobyl, a mutation of normal women.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Punished Miku
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Katy Perry invented them in 2008.
GymWolf
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GymWolf
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Nah I gotcha, it was just super random lol
Buggy Loop
Member
To be fair, and this is coming from a hardcore gamer that follows almost all trailers of interest, Microsoft marketing sucks ass. First they have bad footage captures. I've seen this for Avowed too, some youtubers that were given previews had better captures than even Microsoft. WTF is up with that. Not even a single path tracing marketing promotion.
I see it nowhere on TV, not on facebook, not on youtube. Marketing budget seems non existant, is it just me? My search results might skew the ads and I didn't see it, but honestly, seems to be low on marketing compared to some other AAA. Are they going for Hi-Fi rush word of mouth? They saw that worked so now they're wondering why even bother to promote games?
Anyway, just my observations. I feel like I was also caught off guard into how this game plays out, the massive map and immersive sim aspect. I expected Riddick influences a bit from extrapolation of Machine games but this is exceeding all my expectations.
And also to add to your point, which I agree with, some peoples will never argue in good faith anyway. Regurgitating "should have been 3rd person", "lol gay pride t-shirt", "lol modern audience" have some of them that will change their mind with a few counterpoints, some will still be warriors till the end. If they're missing out on this gem for these convictions, their loss.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I realize you are being sarcastic, but I think a lot of people don't realize how widespread this was, it was just spoken about in more polite indirect terms, and not an identity. Like no one really talked about what they did behind closed doors, but it was well known that some women would prefer to take "Boston Wives," instead of marrying men.
We actually had a gay president a century and a half ago (James Buchanan) who wrote openly about being gay in his letters, who had a long term male partner he shared a bed with. And people knew about it, but they just called him "fancy" if they even talked about it at all. It was just considered kind of gauche to talk about sexuality in that way, so it more often went unspoken.
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LordOcidax
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GOTY, there’s no much competition this year.
Thebonehead
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0neAnd0nly
Member
Bro,
I don’t know if you get this. But every post over the years of you complaining about “you guys” here, you are literally the same exact thing in this flip.
Everybody here that isn’t a communist knows you and a few other (notably a hearing impaired individual and someone who lacks importance) will hand wave any and all minor complaints against modernism or progressive politics infesting gaming. You are no better, everything is hyper political to you as well, just as you feel like “you guys” are being too.
It goes way farther to respect that other opinions exist, sometimes potentially valid, than to hand wave every. Single. Complaint. Others have.
The lack of listening since the online social media takeover is incredibly sad to witness. Shouting and not listening, always.
Edit: with all due respect, my GAF brethren. I don’t mean it to be an attack, just want you to know how it comes off.
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Games of Today
Member
No one just comes up with a deaf character for no reason.
That's just another thing to add to the list man. It's just the matter of fact that I can tell who's writing these games.
No one was walking around fascist occupied Egypt in 1937 worrying about being a lesbian. And the insecure male line is such a sad attempt at writing dialogue for a Nazi commander.
Now don't get me wrong. The good parts about this game are unbelievable. The level design, the lighting, the combat, all awesome. It feels like an Indiana Jones movie in first person.
But I can cleary see the retardation and DEI shit seeping through the cracks.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Did we play the same game? She never even outright says it, she's just looking for info on a woman she cares about and it's vaguely implied that they love each other, which is absolutely how it would have been handled in that time period.
No, this complaint is just stupid. He's calling that particular dude an insecure male. If he made a comment about short men, would you take it as an insinuation that men are short? You're just wrong and dumb about this one.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
That's funny. I just assumed it was a relative or something. It's like when my gay aunt introduced me to her "friend."
I just miss these things.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, I'm gonna very strongly disagree with both these takes here.
1. The lesbian thing is an understated, implied, thing. No dialogue, diary entry etc directly calls the girls lovers etc
2. The 'insecure man' line is perfect in context, Voss tells his second in command right after baiting the shit out of the quite literally insecure nazi officer.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Nope. Find me a post where I bitch about politics in a game and ask people to boycott it because "it's offensive" or whatever.
There may be hypersensitive little bitches on the left, but I assure you I have no more patience for them. My position is clearly and consistently that the culture wars and cancel mobs over video games are whiny bitching about nothing. On both sides.
I can have my politics and not be so brainrotted that I'm scouring my games looking for reasons to be offended.
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So deaf characters can't be in games?
0neAnd0nly
Member
I am not going to scour your post history to find examples, but look man - over the years, there are a few names I always know are going to be hard left in their take and pretentiously dismiss any dissenting opinions, and you are absolutely one of them. It is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions, I am simply trying to point out how it comes off to ~ half of the board here. I can assure you I am not the only one. Occasionally I comment on culture / political stuff here, but it isn't something I dwell on or have a hard line for - but I doubt anybody would relate my name with that at all.
It's just an offer on some advice about how you come off sometimes. It's all respect dude, sometimes self reflection is needed. I do it plenty as well, and heck, disagree with myself sometimes later. I just noticed when you say stuff about the right, it's always in the same vein of what so many modern leftist have become annoyingly aggravating with - discrediting the opposing thought and not listening to the opposite concerns at all.
All love. Hope your Christmas and holiday season is wonderful.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Again, while I'm politically left of the majority of NeoGAF (and fwiw, probably right of everyone on Resetera), my real point here is that the going around trying to stretch thin the meaning of random lines of dialog or the importance of a character's haircut is fucking lame, dude. Like really, this DEI witch hunt stuff is sad and weird and pointless. And very often outright delusional or based on incorrect information.
Like we're wasting time talking about a game character that called another game character "insecure" what the actual fuck, just stop.
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People come up with these stories. It’s called having a bloody imagination.
The real question is why a deaf character triggers you so much. What ‘agenda’ do you imagine is being pushed there? The horrific idea that deaf people exist?
You’re pretty much describing paranoia.
0neAnd0nly
Member
I am not arguing any of it, I don't have the game just checking reactions. I was curious how the game was being reviewed mostly by gamers and not critics.
I just... again, telling people their thoughts don't matter is a large portion of why the recent US election went the way it did. Handwaving all complaints by the opposition of your beliefs isn't a way to constructive conversation. I also think it is true people on the opposite side of the progressive movement are touchier now more than ever, in your example - people not liking the 'insecure male' line. Have you considered the reason for that? Maybe because the game industry has become inundated with progressive politics and they are growing tired of not having anybody on their side, thus making them feel like they are targeted and always looking for where. The industry has largely shut down hiring anybody remotely conservative, this was a growing problem when I was in it ~10 years ago and has now taken it over. Making an ideological monopoly over something with a large reach will ALWAYS cause problems. More apparent now than ever.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. I said what I have said on the issue. Again, I wish you a good day!
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toxiichollow
Member
The funny thing is they explained why he's going deaf, they mention he fought in WW1.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
A war veteran with an injury? What kind of woke tokenism is this shit?
ManaByte
Gold Member
One was even First Lady when this game was set.
Games of Today
Member
I didn't say that. They just made that character deaf for the sake of it because they wanted Indy to give him a record. There was literally no other reason for him to be deaf other than checking an inclusive box.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
He isn't deaf, he's hearing impaired from a war injury. How is this different than if he walked with a cane or had a missing hand or whatever?
PisswasserYellow
Member
I hate forced woke shit as much as the next guy but I think some of you are really reaching when it comes to this game. The deaf guy? If you had to interact with him in fucking sign language or something then maybe I'd get it, but you converse with him like any other character, so who gives a shit? I'm only most of the way through the Vatican so maybe there's more that I just haven't seen yet, but these examples just seem really minor to me.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Must every characteristic of a character, such as their age, appearance, profession or set of skills someone how be important to the plot? Or can a character have characteristics that are incidental, in the sense they don't need to be justified in some way by the story being told?
If a character can have such incidental characteristics, then the question is what is special about deafness such that it can't fall into this category and must always be justified when it appears?
PropellerEar
Member
Biggest news paper in Finland(even Nordic countries)
2/5
"Microsoft's Indiana Jones game is dull, repetitive and even unambitious."
www.hs.fi
2/5
"Microsoft's Indiana Jones game is dull, repetitive and even unambitious."
Peliarvio | Legendaarinen Indiana Jones lerpahtaa odotetussa jättituotannossa
Microsoftin Indiana Jones -peli on vaimea, itseään toistava ja jopa kunnianhimoton.
www.hs.fi
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DenchDeckard
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Unambitious?Biggest news paper in Finland.
2/5
"Microsoft's Indiana Jones game is dull, repetitive and even unambitious."
Peliarvio | Legendaarinen Indiana Jones lerpahtaa odotetussa jättituotannossa
Microsoftin Indiana Jones -peli on vaimea, itseään toistava ja jopa kunnianhimoton.
Lmao.
PropellerEar
Member
That's the Review quote.
And I tend to agree with it, what I've played it, I'm doing fricking no reward basic fetch quests in Vatican.
Title for review:
"Legendary Indiana Jones flops(or "goes flaccid") in the expected giant production."
Josemayuste
Member
Biggest news paper in Finland(even Nordic countries)
2/5
"Microsoft's Indiana Jones game is dull, repetitive and even unambitious."
Peliarvio | Legendaarinen Indiana Jones lerpahtaa odotetussa jättituotannossa
Microsoftin Indiana Jones -peli on vaimea, itseään toistava ja jopa kunnianhimoton.
This site has no clue.. Indiana Jones could easily be among the top three or five best games of 2024
PropellerEar
Member
Josemayuste
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BigLee74
Member
Thanks. Where were you when the 5/5 reviews were being handed out?Biggest news paper in Finland(even Nordic countries)
2/5
"Microsoft's Indiana Jones game is dull, repetitive and even unambitious."
Peliarvio | Legendaarinen Indiana Jones lerpahtaa odotetussa jättituotannossa
Microsoftin Indiana Jones -peli on vaimea, itseään toistava ja jopa kunnianhimoton.
Oh right, it’s you…
Well, easily the best game I’ve played this year. Not without its issues though! Whilst Indy sounds great, the model is just not quite right. And a few of the secondary models are also pretty poor, with stiff animation. More than passable, but not top tier.
My biggest gripe though is the gun. I quite fancy a wee shoot out now and again, but it’s almost impossible to do without attracting the attention of lots of enemies. So very pointless thus far - maybe I’ll get to use it later?
Loving it though. Heavy dishonoured vibes for me.
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