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[Pejo]

Not doing anything 1.7 has to offer (story, events etc.) until the very last day. Don't care abount BP, didn't even bought it this time and not planning to. There's literally nothing for me in 1.7 except rewards cuz I liked 1.6 stories far more. 1.7 for me is 90% of the time doing dailes and double mat drops.


We'll see if they'll actually deliver.



miHoYo will be giving away 1 S rank chracter and 1 S rank W-Engine (both from 1.0 so it's the shitty part) in 2.0 + 30 pulls (2 logins + 1600 polys) - for character banners.

As I preddicted, panda is huge and slow af defense character, will never use him.



Ju Fufu looks cool, love her personality and her combat kit reminds me Lumi a bit, except she can't run around and bounce on her... whatever it is and launch a giant version of it at enemies.





We'll be able to costumize how MCs will look, individual parts of their costume, there won't be paid skins for them.

Yixuan is not a Void Hunter, but she has unique title (Grand Master) and will have unique variation of Ether anomaly - Auric Ink.

Wait, we're getting Ju Fufu for free? Where did you see that? Amazing if true. She's not my favorite design but I thought 100% sure they would give us the furry panda and do a bow while reddit clapped. Never thought they'd give us a free S rank female.

Is the S rank selector just for standard banner characters or is Ellen on it too? Yi Xuan not being a VH is weird. First she wasn't, then she was, now she's not again lol. Love that we don't have to use the CN outfits for Proxies, I wasn't a fan of them in the preview.

Where did you read all of this stuff?

 

[Spyxos]

Wait, we're getting Ju Fufu for free? Where did you see that? Amazing if true. She's not my favorite design but I thought 100% sure they would give us the furry panda and do a bow while reddit clapped. Never thought they'd give us a free S rank female.

Is the S rank selector just for standard banner characters or is Ellen on it too? Yi Xuan not being a VH is weird. First she wasn't, then she was, now she's not again lol. Love that we don't have to use the CN outfits for Proxies, I wasn't a fan of them in the preview.

Where did you read all of this stuff?

Jufu is not free. Only Standard S ranks.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I'm not sure where all this leaked info about the anni stuff is coming from, but plans can always change when it comes to rewards, so I don't see the point in getting prematurely excited about something that may or may not happen (Ju Fufu for free). But maybe that's just me...

 

[Pejo]

I'm not sure where all this leaked info about the anni stuff is coming from, but plans can always change when it comes to rewards, so I don't see the point in getting prematurely excited about something that may or may not happen (Ju Fufu for free). But maybe that's just me...

NEVER bet on HoYo being generous for an anniversary. NEVER. I still remember the time that HoYo gave the global version of Honkai Impact an exclusive anniversary video (On YouTube, not even in the game) with the characters in bunny girl costumes. It made CN players so ass-mad that one dude tried to hide in the bushes at HoYo's headquarters and planned to stab Da Wei, but he got arrested. What did HoYo do? They apologized to the CN players, removed the video from their YouTube account, gave the CN PLAYERS a 10x pull worth of currency, and cancelled the Global anniversary.

Anyways, I'm trying to decide, if the standard selector is true, who would I even pick? The only two with a use case are Koleda (Lighter invalidates her) and Rina (PEN isn't a desirable stat in the current version of the game). I might just hold on to the ticket until after they reveal the first round of character buffs to see if that makes a difference for any of them. It'd be nice if Ellen was in that group, at least she's still usable, if sub-optimal.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Hoyo isn't giving shit.

At last I got my Vivian combat ready. It was the right decision, she's a cute beast and I badly needed a second Ether character.

I'm just missing an Electro one.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

The dragon warrior kung-fu panda looks much more interesting than ju fufu, not a chance I'm pulling for her, unless Po is on her banner.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Wait, we're getting Ju Fufu for free? Where did you see that? Amazing if true. She's not my favorite design but I thought 100% sure they would give us the furry panda and do a bow while reddit clapped. Never thought they'd give us a free S rank female.

Is the S rank selector just for standard banner characters or is Ellen on it too? Yi Xuan not being a VH is weird. First she wasn't, then she was, now she's not again lol. Love that we don't have to use the CN outfits for Proxies, I wasn't a fan of them in the preview.

Where did you read all of this stuff?

It's all on reddit in ZZZ leaks. And yeah, Ju Fufu is not free, I edited my post after I posted it. There'll be 1.0 selector Character + W-Engine. As for Yixuan, it looks like we misunderstood what they said. Strangely enough, there's no leaked gameplay of her yet, but I'm sure it'll leak soon.

I'm not sure where all this leaked info about the anni stuff is coming from, but plans can always change when it comes to rewards, so I don't see the point in getting prematurely excited about something that may or may not happen (Ju Fufu for free). But maybe that's just me...

True, but reliable leaks always turned out to be true so I tend to trust them.

NEVER bet on HoYo being generous for an anniversary. NEVER. I still remember the time that HoYo gave the global version of Honkai Impact an exclusive anniversary video (On YouTube, not even in the game) with the characters in bunny girl costumes. It made CN players so ass-mad that one dude tried to hide in the bushes at HoYo's headquarters and planned to stab Da Wei, but he got arrested. What did HoYo do? They apologized to the CN players, removed the video from their YouTube account, gave the CN PLAYERS a 10x pull worth of currency, and cancelled the Global anniversary.

Anyways, I'm trying to decide, if the standard selector is true, who would I even pick? The only two with a use case are Koleda (Lighter invalidates her) and Rina (PEN isn't a desirable stat in the current version of the game). I might just hold on to the ticket until after they reveal the first round of character buffs to see if that makes a difference for any of them. It'd be nice if Ellen was in that group, at least she's still usable, if sub-optimal.

Are you sure that selector will be available for months? It'll take a while before they'll do anything as they said already. If I were to pick I'd choose Lycaon and his W-Engine (you can give it to any other stunner since it's not locked behind Lycaon's kit)- he's a beast stunner still and will only get better if they'll decide to buff him later.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Pejo and I might joke about how CN players are psychotic, but also, not really joking.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

CN is always the wildcard for all these CN based gachas, lol.

Sucks for the devs having to deal with such a manchild of a fanbase that gets upset at the most inconsequential shit.

 

[SSfox]

I was saving to buy S11 engine for Vivian, but i may not need so in the end

 

[Aenima]

Easy skip on the chinese reskin of Ben Bigger and Koleda. All my tapes are saved for the hot mystic with another fucking chinese name i cant remember or spell correctly without googling. (Its fucking Wuthering Waves all over again)

Jufu is not free. Only Standard S ranks.

Hoyo keep being Hoyo, meanwhile ShiftUp celebrating an half anniversary right now... (Free brand new SSR char + 3 dupes, more than 160 pulls + other materials and shit) Do Hoyo even celebrate half anniversarys?

 

[Pejo]

It's all on reddit in ZZZ leaks. And yeah, Ju Fufu is not free, I edited my post after I posted it. There'll be 1.0 selector Character + W-Engine. As for Yixuan, it looks like we misunderstood what they said. Strangely enough, there's no leaked gameplay of her yet, but I'm sure it'll leak soon.

Are you sure that selector will be available for months? It'll take a while before they'll do anything as they said already. If I were to pick I'd choose Lycaon and his W-Engine (you can give it to any other stunner since it's not locked behind Lycaon's kit)- he's a beast stunner still and will only get better if they'll decide to buff him later.

It depends if it's a redeemable item that you use from your inventory or if it's a redeem event from the event screen, I guess. Hopefully it's the former. If I am forced to pick based on what we know right now, I'd probably get another Rina mindscape. Her M6 is really good for Electric teams, so it's a step towards that.

CN is always the wildcard for all these CN based gachas, lol.

Sucks for the devs having to deal with such a manchild of a fanbase that gets upset at the most inconsequential shit.

CN Genshin fans got mad that Wanderer (one of their most hated characters) stole the limelight in a particular patch, so one "fan" recorded a video of himself killing a bunch of kittens due to some loose symbolism between the character and cats. Completely unhinged.

I was saving to buy S11 engine for Vivian, but i may not need so in the end

S11 is Attacker, Vivian is Anomaly, so the W-Engine passives won't activate for her. Grace's engine would work for Vivian, but it's not a great option. The craftable "Weeping Gemini" is supposedly her best F2P option.

Easy skip on the chinese reskin of Ben Bigger and Koleda. All my tapes are saved for the hot mystic with another fucking chinese name i cant remember or spell correctly without googling. (Its fucking Wuthering Waves all over again)


Hoyo keep being Hoyo, meanwhile ShiftUp celebrating an half anniversary right now... (Free brand new SSR char + 3 dupes, more than 160 pulls + other materials and shit) Do Hoyo even celebrate half anniversarys?

Agree that Nikke is more "generous" but you're comparing hundreds of animations on a 3D model with rigging/modeling/shading involved vs. an animated .png with 3 poses. Nikke's whole anniversary events probably cost as much as a single ZZZ 4* to make in production.

 

[Aenima]

Agree that Nikke is more "generous" but you're comparing hundreds of animations on a 3D model with rigging/modeling/shading involved vs. an animated .png with 3 poses. Nikke's whole anniversary events probably cost as much as a single ZZZ 4* to make in production.

Live2D is not an animated PNG, is also rigging alot of individual 2D body parts and animate them in a skeleton. Its alot of hand craft work and Nikke has to do 3 diferent LD2 for each character, unlike most games that ony has to do 1, a chibi 3D model with various animations, and an animated cutscene for the Burst skills.

How can you say that Nikke anniversary events costs the same as a 4star 3d model when in each anniversary they add a minigame that could be a standalone game sold separatly. Just the metroidvania minigame they released for the 2nd anniversary is better than all minigames combined ZZZ had put together so far.

They are just freaking stingy just like all other chinese gachas cuz china is filled with walles that support they P2W BS.

 

[Pejo]

Live2D is not an animated PNG, is also rigging alot of individual 2D body parts and animate them in a skeleton. Its alot of hand craft work and Nikke has to do 3 diferent LD2 for each character, unlike most games that ony has to do 1, a chibi 3D model with various animations, and an animated cutscene for the Burst skills.

How can you say that Nikke anniversary events costs the same as a 4star 3d model when in each anniversary they add a minigame that could be a standalone game sold separatly. Just the metroidvania minigame they released for the 2nd anniversary is better than all minigames combined ZZZ had put together so far.

They are just freaking stingy just like all other chinese gachas cuz china is filled with walles that support they P2W BS.

I'll concede that the minigames are crazy good for a mobile game, but the L2D stuff can be done by an amateur in an afternoon with L2D Engine from a static image. Plus there's been suspicion than ShiftUp uses AI generated art, then does touch-up work on it, so I'm a bit hesitant to give them the benefit of the doubt on asset creation.

Regardless, the difference in cost of development between the two is likely very large. Nikke runs a smaller team and does smaller scope stuff, it's not a problem, just the way it is. But you also can't compare apples to apples with the two games because it's an apples to oranges comparison from the start.

That said, I agree completely that HoYo is stingy and Nikke at least makes celebrations feel like celebrations.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

live2d can look very nice, but the workload of creating kung-fu panda in 3d and then dozens of animations for him doesn't compare.

 

[Aenima]

That said, I agree completely that HoYo is stingy and Nikke at least makes celebrations feel like celebrations.

And thats what really matters if you gonna make an anniversary events. They shower the players with free pulls and new stuff every 6 months. Both Nikke and Brown Dust 2 do crazy celebrations every 6 months as they also celebrate half anniversarys. BD2 barelly makes any money compared to other gachas and they still shower the players with free pulls and free new characters, and the best Hoyo can do while being in the top of the revenue charts for years, is give away a selector for an old and already powercrep character and 30 pulls? Come on... BD2 gave away more than 500 free pulls last anniversary.

And looking at WuWa anni rewards, now im 100% sure all these chinese studios have a deal in place where they have to follow the same monetization model and cant "Powercreep" the competition in generosity. 30 free pulls is not bad in a game like Nikke that has banners with 4% drop rates, but in a game like ZZZ with 0.6% drop rates, 30 pulls is just barelly better than nothing.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Aenima I don't think you can say that about the GF2 team. I already got 165 pulls there by mostly doing side stuff not related to the story and I was 3 chapters deep before I stopped playing after launch cuz of WuWa. I already got two dupes of Qiongjiu (closing in on the third one already), Tololo and 3 5 star weapons (there's two sets of them even).... In terms of rewards, pulls you can earn per day (both standard and none standard), generous gacha and pitty systems and the way that they're marketing the game without forcing anyone to pull, releasing and rerunning not so good characters (in terms of meta etc.) knowing full well that people will skip them to pull Springfield or 416... Mats farming is automated and you don't have to worry about that and waste your time, but there's an option to get even more if you so wish. Ah, it's such a stark contrast in comparison to ZZZ and WuWa which are all about taking as much of your money as they possibly can...

Tell you what, I don't even care if I lose 50/50 cuz I know that I get the pulls needed relatively quickly (without buying packs with pulls) and will get the character I need, not to mention that they rerun characters faster, there's not a lot of them yet so you'll get a chance to get the one you need and won't be forced to choose between new character and the old one like in WuWa and ZZZ. Nikke is a whole other beast with so much generosity of course, but GF2 devs are nothing like miHoYo and Kuro.

 

[Aenima]

Aenima I don't think you can say that about the GF2 team. I already got 165 pulls there by mostly doing side stuff not related to the story and I was 3 chapters deep before I stopped playing after launch cuz of WuWa. I already got two dupes of Qiongjiu (closing in on the third one already), Tololo and 3 5 star weapons (there's two sets of them even).... In terms of rewards, pulls you can earn per day (both standard and none standard), generous gacha and pitty systems and the way that they're marketing the game without forcing anyone to pull, releasing and rerunning not so good characters (in terms of meta etc.) knowing full well that people will skip them to pull Springfield or 416... Mats farming is automated and you don't have to worry about that and waste your time, but there's an option to get even more if you so wish. Ah, it's such a stark contrast in comparison to ZZZ and WuWa which are all about taking as much of your money as they possibly can...

Tell you what, I don't even care if I lose 50/50 cuz I know that I get the pulls needed relatively quickly (without buying packs with pulls) and will get the character I need, not to mention that they rerun characters faster, there's not a lot of them yet so you'll get a chance to get the one you need and won't be forced to choose between new character and the old one like in WuWa and ZZZ. Nikke is a whole other beast with so much generosity of course, but GF2 devs are nothing like miHoYo and Kuro.

I finished the story mode of GF2 and the event at launch. The event rewards were good and they also give other ways to get characters outside the gacha so yes, its a bit better but they still use 0.8% drop rates which is same as WuWa. I felt it was just a matter of time untill i had to start choosing what characters i pull and what i skip. I actually got pretty lucky with my GF2 pulls and got all the top tier characters from the start. But the reason i stop playing was cuz the gameplay loop was not doing nothing for me by the time i finished the story, the dailies was kinda tedious to do and all the fanservice in the dorms was paywalled. Unless u like feet, that game has ridiculous detailed feet.

And Nikke is not even the most generous gacha game i play, its the one with higher drop rates, but in terms of generosity, the Brown Dust 2 team is twice more generous than the Nikke team, its crazy to the point i started playing the game 7 months later and still managed to catch up and get all characters, all this without using the premium currency that i have been hording since i started playing the game. All the characters i got was using the gacha tickets + other ways the game allows u to get characters without using the gacha. If i convert the premium currency + tickets i own now, i have enough to do more than 2000 pulls.

Each pull using gems is 200 gems, so if i ever run out of tickets:

 

[Agent_4Seven]

But the reason i stop playing was cuz the gameplay loop was not doing nothing for me by the time i finished the story, the dailies was kinda tedious to do and all the fanservice in the doorms was paywalled.

I already let them know via survey that they need to get rid of repetitive combat only missions in the story campaign, they're all exactly the same exept enemies and map designs. They have exploration combat mode with stealth elements in the recent update and I think this is what they should be doing going forward for the main campaign but on a bigger scale, with better designed maps, better enemie placement and not stupid and unrealistic in terms of stealth.

Thanks to U Unknown Soldier , we know that they're not firing all cylinders in GF2 yet and everything up until now was just them trying to do at least something, while the main writer was finishing GF1 story and since it's already done, they can finally work on GF2 with full force now. I don't expect big changes right away, but I don't think we'll have to wait long.

 

[Felessan]

"Free" comes at cost
There is HUGE difference in production values between Aphelion ending (a big event in GFL2) and YiXuan introduction.
The more freebies we got and less money we pay - the less money dev will have and will spend on the game. Nothing is free.

 

[Aenima]

The more freebies we got and less money we pay

ZZZ and Nikke make around the same montly revenew. How these 2 games are making the same amount of money one being super generous with the players while the others super stingy? Hoyo chose to make it hard to get characters, that is the most important thing in a gacha, while Nikke chose to make it easy, and to make money they chose the skins route, they release new skins for characters and tie them to the "season passes". I prefer a game that uses cosmetics for the monetization than a game that uses the main gameplay tools, that are the characters.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

ZZZ and Nikke make around the same montly revenew. How these 2 games are making the same amount of money one being super generous with the players while the others super stingy? Hoyo chose to make it hard to get characters, that is the most important thing in a gacha, while Nikke chose to make it easy, and to make money they chose the skins route, they release new skins for characters and tie them to the "season passes". I prefer a game that uses cosmetics for the monetization than a game that uses the main gameplay tools, that are the characters.

Keep in mind that the monthly gacha revenue only accounts for mobile spending. ZZZ playerbase is more focused on PC and console, while Nikke is primarily played on mobile.

Just look at the current best-sellers on the JP PSN, ever since Vivian's banner dropped ZZZ has held the number one spot. This means that the revenue difference between the two games is not actually as close as what those monthly mobile charts suggest since a big portion of ZZZ revenue is from console and PC.

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[Agent_4Seven]

ZZZ and Nikke make around the same montly revenew. How these 2 games are making the same amount of money one being super generous with the players while the others super stingy? Hoyo chose to make it hard to get characters, that is the most important thing in a gacha, while Nikke chose to make it easy, and to make money they chose the skins route, they release new skins for characters and tie them to the "season passes". I prefer a game that uses cosmetics for the monetization than a game that uses the main gameplay tools, that are the characters.

Absolutely agree on the skins making money instead of the characters. They could sell dozens of skins for all I care, as long as it is relatively easy and less frustrating to get the characters.

 

[Mr.ODST]

How does this run on Series X? I know probably not a lot of Xbox Players but they made a big thing about the launch?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

How does this run on Series X? I know probably not a lot of Xbox Players but they made a big thing about the launch?

The Xbox Series version comes in June with the 2.0 update.

If the Xbox Genshin port is any indication, then it should run as well as the current PS5 version of ZZZ, which is already performing very well.

 

[Spyxos]

How does this run on Series X? I know probably not a lot of Xbox Players but they made a big thing about the launch?

It is not out yet.

 

[SSfox]

It depends if it's a redeemable item that you use from your inventory or if it's a redeem event from the event screen, I guess. Hopefully it's the former. If I am forced to pick based on what we know right now, I'd probably get another Rina mindscape. Her M6 is really good for Electric teams, so it's a step towards that.

CN Genshin fans got mad that Wanderer (one of their most hated characters) stole the limelight in a particular patch, so one "fan" recorded a video of himself killing a bunch of kittens due to some loose symbolism between the character and cats. Completely unhinged.

S11 is Attacker, Vivian is Anomaly, so the W-Engine passives won't activate for her. Grace's engine would work for Vivian, but it's not a great option. The craftable "Weeping Gemini" is supposedly her best F2P option.

Agree that Nikke is more "generous" but you're comparing hundreds of animations on a 3D model with rigging/modeling/shading involved vs. an animated .png with 3 poses. Nikke's whole anniversary events probably cost as much as a single ZZZ 4* to make in production.

My bad it was too late, I meant for Evelyn of course, I didn't even pull Vivian haha

 

[Elitro]

As a f2p player, should i try to pull Jane or pair Vivian with Piper and save for next patch?

 

[Felessan]

ZZZ and Nikke make around the same montly revenew. How these 2 games are making the same amount of money one being super generous with the players while the others super stingy? Hoyo chose to make it hard to get characters, that is the most important thing in a gacha, while Nikke chose to make it easy, and to make money they chose the skins route, they release new skins for characters and tie them to the "season passes". I prefer a game that uses cosmetics for the monetization than a game that uses the main gameplay tools, that are the characters.

Seriously doubt it. Don't trust those "mobile revenue" charts.
Shift Up made 100 mil on Nikke in 2024 and though I don't have ZZZ numbers both Genshin and HSR making 2.5 bil per year

And as I said before, an ability to have every char doesn't mean anything, whole power structure of the game should be considered. And usually the easier characters to get, the more doubles prefered.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

As a f2p player, should i try to pull Jane or pair Vivian with Piper and save for next patch?

Vivian, clearly.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Vivian, clearly.

I also suggest to max out Nicole, she's a beast for Ether team and especially in double support (Nicole + Astra) + Miyabi (or Zhu for mono Ether).

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

I also suggest to max out Nicole, she's a beast for Ether team and especially in double support (Nicole + Astra) + Miyabi (or Zhu for mono Ether).

I missed Astra because it was her or Evelyn. Being F2P in ZZZ is about tough choices. Vivian is more versatile, IMO. I already have full Nicole and C6 Piper.

My most powerful team now is Vivian - Soukaku - Miyabi.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

As a f2p player, should i try to pull Jane or pair Vivian with Piper and save for next patch?

Jane and vivian work well together, but if you are f2p and don't have lighter yet, then he's a much better pull than jane in general.

 

[Spyxos]

As a f2p player, should i try to pull Jane or pair Vivian with Piper and save for next patch?

I would wait until 2.0. According to rumors, Miyabi will get rerun in 2.0. With a bit of luck, you could get 2 Void hunters at once.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

As a f2p player, should i try to pull Jane or pair Vivian with Piper and save for next patch?

She pairs very well with Piper if you don't have Jane or prefer not to pull for her and instead save for the anni patch. You can use Lucy or Nicole for the 3rd slot in your Vivian team.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

With a bit of luck, you could get 2 Void hunters at once.

According to the leaks, Yixuan is not a void hunter, but she has a special version of Ether just like Miyabi has her Frostfire. No gameplay leaked yet.

 

[Spyxos]

According to the leaks, Yixuan is not a void hunter, but she has a special version of Ether just like Miyabi has her Frostfire. No gameplay leaked yet.

Comparable to a void hunter from power level.

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[Aenima]

Guys, get really to see Jane Doe sexy voice being replaced soon. Thers a new hangout event where you can invite your characters to hangout in the flowershop, i did the hangout with all my characters and Jane Doe was the only one without voice lines. If shes one of those VAs on strike, most likelly gonna be replaced.

And as I said before, an ability to have every char doesn't mean anything, whole power structure of the game should be considered. And usually the easier characters to get, the more doubles prefered.

Nikke dupes are more irrelevant than the dupes in Hoyo games. Nikke also dont have weapon banners. They also dont power creep they characters every update. Game is 2.5 years old and thers still launch units that are meta characters. But the point i wanted to make is that being generous dosent affact your ability to make money. And im gonna use a better example just using Nikke revenue stats.

The months Nikke is the most generous are the Anniversary and Half Anniversary months, and these are also the months Nikke gets a boost in revenue. Stats dont lie, so stop pretending Hoyo needs to be stingy. They are stingy cuz they have a massive fanbase that dosent know better cuz most of them just play Hoyo games.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

If shes one of those VAs on strike

she is

 

[Aenima]

she is

Well... RIP Jane Doe Sucks cuz Jane Doe is my favorite ZZZ character and her voice was perfect. Lets see what happens.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Well... RIP Jane Doe Sucks cuz Jane Doe is my favorite ZZZ character and her voice was perfect. Lets see what happens.

people have been dreading this change for a while, she hasn't had any major speaking roles so she's probably still safe for a bit also because she's an undercover agent so no need to bring her in unless really necessary.
if they do replace her, they better find someone who puts in the effort like lycaon's new VA

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Looks like Anis from Nikke is dropping in version 2.0 as a rando NPC you can find in the new region.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

harumasa/vivian/astra is pretty fun, surprisingly strong too, same with zhu yuan/vivian/astra.

 

[Pejo]

harumasa/vivian/astra is pretty fun, surprisingly strong too, same with zhu yuan/vivian/astra.

How is Viv's ability to maintain her stacks with quickswap stuff? Or do you just ignore the prompts and built stacks with her like normal?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

How is Viv's ability to maintain her stacks with quickswap stuff? Or do you just ignore the prompts and built stacks with her like normal?

No I just swap, she pretty much always has ~3 stacks because she builds energy like crazy.

Edit:
Recorded jane/vivian quick swap on shiyu 7

 

[Felessan]

The months Nikke is the most generous are the Anniversary and Half Anniversary months, and these are also the months Nikke gets a boost in revenue. Stats dont lie, so stop pretending Hoyo needs to be stingy. They are stingy cuz they have a massive fanbase that dosent know better cuz most of them just play Hoyo games.

Stats do lie, especially if pulled out of thin air.
Shift Up total revenue for 2024 is 150 mil USD, 100 mil came from Nikke. It's their official financial report and not some fantasies.

And production values are incomparable between the two, Mihoyo games have budgets in order of magnitude or two bigger than Nikke has. Actually ShiftUP has higher profit margin than Mihoyo, meaning that their financial model return less to players.

 

[Cao Cao]

You have 4 weeks to save up, daily polychromes, shiyu resets soon, the flower event, the signal shop exchange, the daily tape login.

There's still a bunch of currency there

There is nothing. I used 82 Tapes on Zhu Yuan. Now I used 50 Tapes on Jane Doe but still did not get her.
Need 48 Tapes more to get the 100% Chance. I can only do Shinryu Defense to Level 4, Rest I can't beat in Time without Signature Weapons.
Dunno if I will get enough until she is gone. Next character I will not get either then GG

 

[Pejo]

There is nothing. I used 82 Tapes on Zhu Yuan. Now I used 50 Tapes on Jane Doe but still did not get her.
Need 48 Tapes more to get the 100% Chance. I can only do Shinryu Defense to Level 4, Rest I can't beat in Time without Signature Weapons.
Dunno if I will get enough until she is gone. Next character I will not get either then GG

Soft pity is around mid 70s, where the % of getting an S rank goes up exponentially, so with a little luck you should only need about 25~ tapes to get her. We get 5 from the monthly shop that updates in a few days, on top of the event/patch stuff. I think you should be able to make it before her banner is gone. Have you finished farming Lost Void? That's another good source of polychromes if you aren't level 120 yet.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

What's going on, lol?

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Fuckin' hell. not even Lycaon or Rina

But I got my 100% now for Yixuan, nothing else matters.