Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

As a leftist myself (you can say that? I'm gonna delete it if you can't) I'm ashamed of them, but more than anything else I'm disappointed by the institutions (in this case the gaming industry and the gaming media) that give them cover.

Of course you can say you are left, there is nothing wrong with being left.

The problem sits with people glorifying murder, and (most) of those people being identified as lefties. That in no way means that people that identify as left automatically belong to that group.
 
You cannot possibly know that. Nor can you single out Nintendo is some kinda of good guy as if they are not a company in this for profits as well. The fact that you try is hilarious.









These news aren't excactly easy to find, as it is usual the common folks revealing stuff like this because the left media doesn't. Also, many of the tweets or social media posts has been deleted and are long gone, making it pretty difficult to actually get the resulsts again.

The only reason I mentioned Nintendo is because they are a japanese company, first and foremost. I haven't seen any hateful message in their games. Nintendo are pure evil when it comes to company greed, and the hunt for emulation, where they ruin people's life, but the reason I said Nintendo probably is the only company not doing this is not to say Nintendo are the good guy, because they do so much damage to the gaming industry thanks to all their insane patents lately.
I was talking purely from a political view, and nothing else.
 
Ghost of Yotei having ERA and GAF canceling preorders because no one knows wtf is going on lmao.

I'm sorry...imagine using your work twitter account to celebrate someone dying. People are losing touch with reality. Imagine telling that to your kids or husband (apparently it was a woman): "I was fired. i just celebrated someone getting shot and killed and now i'm not working" like...wtf did you expect?
Don't know if you have colored blue ass hair behind your monitor, or your avatar just reveals how strong you are in your gaming platform faith.

But there is a big difference in simply not wanting to buy a game as a personal statement, and screaming everyone else should, and claim that this developer should die, or you should bomb their head quarters or insane takes like that.

If you cannot see the difference between these two things, then sorry, but you're a radical.
 
Very unlikely to happen. That being said, I don't quite get why people are boycotting a game over a post of ONE (1) employee that has already been fired?
ERA is now boycotting the game over the firing, and while I find that, in all honesty, stupid, it's somehow less head-scratching compared to what people are trying to do here (as it involves actions done by people at the top).

Bungie, TeamLFG and Valkyrie Entertainment are all very close to SuckerPunch physically.........I wouldnt be shocked if she ends up working for one of those studios.

TeamLFG is also a relatively new studio so having a new senior artist on the team could help.
Valkyrie is a support studio so why not have a very experienced artist help at the studio known for helping SuckerPunch.

We have no confirmation she was fired, we only know she updated her LinkedIn to say she stopped work at SuckerPunch.......what shes doing next no one knows.
Keep you eyes open on those credits, I can all but guarantee she will be within Washington

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All in all I agree, I think people should keep work and life more separate not to trash your company's reputation if you say stupid shit, but I agree cancel culture is bad.

Which is why when people started resorting to mob justice and harassing employers and advertisers, etc… some of us were deeply against it. It normalises a behaviour and tactics. People on the left and centre left are seeing the woke right using tactics the left proved they work in today's society. So round of applause for that I guess:
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Am I a bad person for thinking that cancel culture is bad whatever the direction, and that people should be able to state bad opinions without being fired or executed?

I totally get that there is an amount of catharsis in the left getting what they dealt for years, but I saw how those years made the world more miserable.
 
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Cancel culture at its worst. Everyone has the right to make jokes about different topics, it is not a reason to put people out of work.
Oh come on man ffs. I hate cancel culture as its people usually getting cancelled for ridicuilous things, but openly mocking and celebrating someone getting murdered isnt one of them.

Not everything is black and white, context has to come into play sometimes.
 
Am I a bad person for thinking that cancel culture is bad whatever the direction, and that people should be able to state bad opinions without being fired or executed?

I totally get that there is an amount of catharsis in the left getting what they dealt for years, but I saw how those years made the world more miserable.

it's been said before and I'll say it again. Celebrating a death is not an opinion or a view.
 
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So, Gaf has now become Cancel-culture?
I hope so. A line has been crossed.

No one here wants to cancel people for their random (political) beliefs that they post online. However, someone being fired because they're dancing on someone's grave, someone who has just been publicly executed? Yeah I´m okay with that.
 
Taking one quote and omitting every other hundreds of shitty and hateful things he's said sure is something. Here's a couple:

"We must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty... We need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment,"

So, you don't really understand what he meant? Is your IQ really that low.
He doesn't want people to die. But he wanted to prevent his and the peoples freedom.

But sure, take away peoples guns. Then they would just stab each other like in Europe.
The cartels and the gangs will of course still have weapons. But now you cannot defend yourself against them as your right.
Btw I am not an american. I live in a country where weapons are banned and always has been. Driving around with a knife longer than 5 cm is considered a murder weapon with a purpose of killing someone.

The problem with guns is that is is such a big part of american culture.
Not much would change. Citizens would having a harder time getting access to firearms. Theres millions and millions of guns in the US, many of them would get hidden at the black market, also the cartel issue is so serious in USA, that guns would be imported as much as drugs from Mexico.

Kirk was asked what he would want his daughter to do if she were 10 years old and pregnant following rape. After calling the scenario graphic, he responds, "The answer is yes. The baby would be delivered."
That is also a personal thing I did not support. I do realise that it is because he was a full blooded christian, which I am not at all. I'm not religious. But I understand why he wanted it.

I have a daughter myself, but I wouldn't want it.

By the way...
I know americans like to chop kids foreskin... Are you pro or against that?
I find it pretty evil to cut in poor kids foreskin without having anything to say against it.
That is pretty evil to me.

"Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot."

I have known about this guy the last six months. I am not a native american, I someday just got his videos where he talks on campusses.

I still don't believe that is an opinion worth being killed over.

A vast majority of black people are racists, klinging to "y'all made me slaves", even though the person has never experienced anything slave behavior except their own way of thinking. They are imprisoning themselves.

But all this is imo another story, so I'll drop it here. Unless you of course want to continue, but I don't think this is the right thread to do so.
"This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative," he said. "Engage in reality more… Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge."

"Thou shall lay with another man, shall be stoned to death. Just saying... The chapter...affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matter."
I ain't defending the man or all his values.

These quotations are from him being hardcore christian.

Then put it that way, for non christian people, he can be considered a loony because of these absurd opinions.

But if you think someone should be killed from these quotations, then this tells more about you than him.
 
There are plenty of companies in the industry who will quietly like and approve of what she did, but most of them will probably not like it enough to take on the negative attention which is now attached to her (at least until the heat dies down).

It's not like there is nowhere she can work though. Some smaller companies really only cater to one side of the political spectrum, and there her 'heroic stand against fascism' and doubling down will be seen as an asset
 
What's also going to be interesting in the next few weeks is how much it continues on.

The SP girl seems to have gotten fired and adjusted her profile to exclude all GoY and employer data. BUT, in a blaze of glory still claimed she'd do it again 100x if she could.

So even though she doesnt even work at the company anymore, she doesnt seem like the type of person to chill, delete her accounts or if Bluesky has a private mode do that. She's the combative type. So the more she eggs it on, the more SP and GoY gets blowback as people following this issue will link up she's the anti-right hating SP employee who liked Kirk getting shot and killed.

And GoY doesnt even launch for 3 more weeks. So plenty of time for more pre-launch antics.
Yeah I noticed that as well.

Many of these people have everything in their mouth because they are keyboard warrior losers in their dungeons, but a statement like this can also been sees as now she is angry over she just lost her jobs, and it is trump's fault, because her (leftist" view is righteous, therefore she needs to take him out to get revenge.
Even though he never will know who this trash person is.
 
Cancel culture at its worst. Everyone has the right to make jokes about different topics, it is not a reason to put people out of work.
My humor may be really dry and bad, so I am very sorry for being a weirdo.

But can you tell me the joke about people laughing and celebrating with music over Kirks death?

My IQ is too low to see the joke.

But I am also a Millenial, so maybe I am just out of touch with how jokes are being handled by kids today.
 
It's great to hear Sucker Punch getting quick action. I don't want to see freaks like this involved in a game I play.

The problem is that they still haven't released an official statement so I am not convinced with this argument that they are being quick. Until this doesn't happen, SP has done basically nothing in my book
 
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I think you can joke about pretty much anything if it is actually just a joke. This was advocacy in a very thin veil of a joke, as she effectively later acknowledges by referring to it as her standing against fascism.
 
The company is also what the employees are

I hope Ghost of Yotei flops harder than Concord with massive campaign against the studio, and Sony abolishes from the root all those woke guys
 
[Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired

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In SP defence I think it was untenable and, with Sony already bleeding money on abandoned projects, these people need to fall in line. The social media witch hunts were started long ago and these types of people think they are immune. Money talks.

She seems like a absolute terrible person though.
Exactly.

Free speech doesn't equate to free of consequences.

It would have done a while back as people were too scared to speak up as their employers were complicit with the ideology. A year ago there probably would have been no consequences for her. Glad things are changing both sides of the Atlantic
 
Exactly.

Free speech doesn't equate to free of consequences.

It would have done a while back as people were too scared to speak up as their employers were complicit with the ideology. A year ago there probably would have been no consequences for her. Glad things are changing both sides of the Atlantic

It is really ironic.

The left has always hated free speech. They didn't want it because it means you can critize what they dont like.

Now they want free speech because the can mock the death of a person :unsure:

Just shows what kind of people they are.
 
The matter of fact is that whether you agree with Charlie or not, celebrating the death of a person who was peacefully discussing politics, wished his debators well when they finished, stood up for what he believed in, who was a son and a father is a shameful thing to do and if you do it on your main social media, you are putting yourself in the firing line. As multiple people have said, free speech is fine but it doesn't mean no consequences.

These left wing woke lunatics have cancelled people for far less than this so I think it's more than fair that they taste a little bit of their own medicine. They said it's unacceptable to hold certain views, we think so too. At the end of the day, not agreeing with transgender politics is one thing but celebrating the death of a human being is fucking awful and I was raised not to speak badly of the dead, even if you didn't agree with them.

Reeeeeeee are obviously giving it the big one, saying "Oh the far right love cancel culture when it suits them." Far be it from us to use their own weapons against them, when they've destroyed people's careers, lives and families over a political view. An eye for an eye mother fuckers.

People need to understand that their words have consequences, not by going to prison like our stupid fucking country is doing, but by people doing the right thing to call them out on their bullshit. I've seen the video, the moment his neck bursts and you see the blood gushing out is burned into my mind. The fact that his wife and children were there makes it all the more sickening.

You can hate Charlie all you want but in no universe did he deserve what happened. I sincerely hope he rests in peace, he lost a lifetime that he had ahead of him. His families lives are ruined. I'm not a religious person but I know Charlie was and I hope that he's been warmly embraced in the loving arms of god and receives the comfort that nobody can give him.
 
Thinking about all of this a little more, I'm a bit surprised about my initial gut reaction prefering the almost comical real life incarnation of the "evil corp" Nintendo with all the bs they're pulling over a company like MS or Sony which knowingly enable people to behave like this without any consequences. I'd rather give my money to some greedy, hostile, anti-consumer platform that rigorously makes sure no politics is in any of their products than corps who literally run on extremist culture.
 
Thing is, where do we cross the line here celebrating the assassination of someone?

So some of these people are okay with it. What's next in their mind? More assassinations of people that people don't like? Kill everyone like it's nothing?

What if there was a place full of "disliked people" in a mass shooting, is that okay now? Mass shootings should be celebrated? Hurray for guns?

Celebrating death of someone who technically did nothing should be a crime, even if we dislike the person.

We should stick to celebrating actual horrible people like Hitler etc.
 
This is true and the his assassination was awful. But we have to be honest that Charlie Kirk was part of the handle at times. We can condemn his murder without whitewashing who he was. Here's a handful of some things he said:

- Gun violence was "unfortunate" but necessary to protect 2A
- Women must be raped for the survival of the species
- Children should be forced to watch public executions
- He was disappointed that Nancy Pelosi's husband survived the attack
- We cannot allow victims of mass shootings to emotionally hijack the narrative
- Trans people should be lynched
- Called for gay people to be stoned to death

These disparaging, incorrect, characterizations of Charlie are what led to his assassination. This is the playbook for those not paying attention yet: demonize by lying about the person --> get low IQ people to believe what you are saying without verification --> convince low IQ people that "words are violence" --> the violence is justified.

All these game developers, and others, celebrating his assassination are at "the violence is justified" stage. They truly believe that murdering people who they disagree with is justified.
 
Publicly cheering as assassination should be something that is shamed. That should be something everyone can get behind. Somewhere along the way these degenerates started getting away with anything. The world is a better place when there are consequences for being a vile human being.
It is too bad Charlie Kirk wasn't shamed for it when he mocked the assassination attempt of Nancy Pelosi's husband
 
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If I refused to buy products or consume media from people I disagree with I'd probably have way less games and books than I do.
Probably none. In these large Teams, there is always one you don't agree with. Heck I got friends having different oppinions about some things I do....
 
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The problem is that they still haven't released an official statement so I am not convinced with this argument that they are being quick. Until this doesn't happen, SP has done basically nothing in my book
What more should they do? Do you expect every company on the planet to release some praising statement for charlie because he got killed.

Their garbage employee got quickly fired, they reacted quite fast. Just hope more of these clowns get fired.
 
These disparaging, incorrect, characterizations of Charlie are what led to his assassination. This is the playbook for those not paying attention yet: demonize by lying about the person --> get low IQ people to believe what you are saying without verification --> convince low IQ people that "words are violence" --> the violence is justified.

All these game developers, and others, celebrating his assassination are at "the violence is justified" stage. They truly believe that murdering people who they disagree with is justified.

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What more should they do? Do you expect every company on the planet to release some praising statement for charlie because he got killed.

Their garbage employee got quickly fired, they reacted quite fast. Just hope more of these clowns get fired.

But we don't know if she got fired or she left by herself because she saw what could be coming. The company not clarifying this situation leds to confusion. I don't think it's good at all that they stay quiet about it
 
Just so I understand the psyche of this thread correctly...

One batshit crazy leftist at Suckerpunch celebrating the death of a political public figure = never buy a SP game again/no Yotei

Right-wing, supremacist anti-LGBTs inciting violence on protected groups = it's a bit silly to boycott a game they had little involvement on

Which is it?

Anyway, I hope they catch the guy that did it + fire all those who've been celebrating this.

Nobody wins here.
Yeah

Not buying the game made by 200 different people, specially now that they've fired her is pretty stupid. But people are stupid.

Funny thing, people on Era are also mad at SP and dont want to buy the game anymore lol. So SP fucked up with both sides. A situation they cant win.

Im glad that SP acted fast and rightfuly
 
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The attack Charlie Kirk explicitly condemned at the time? Where is that in evidence in this example? She advocated for the violence, and later doubled down on it saying she would do it again 100x stronger next time.
 
That I agree with. The right wing went completely looney on that one. Same with Jeffrey Epstein.
It is just the frustration of calling this developer a piece of shit when Charlie Kirk is guilty of the exact same thing. But somehow I don't believe the majority of this sub thinks Kirk is a shitty person. Anybody who celebrates political violence shows their inhumanity. People here are cherry picking their outrage
 
You should demand that Sucker Punch give a statement that they don't condone violence on political opponents. Yes, it's one person and not the company, but the United States is a powder keg and any it needs to be viewed as serious as possible.

People of this nature should be treated as nazis and other extremists and companies should avoid hiring them.
 
At this point there is literally no difference anymore to what Nazis did.....they are becoming what they fear the most.

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What's ironic and sad is they don't seem to understand what fascism is. The word they like to throw around the most is the one they live up to the most.
 
This is a false equivalence. It sucks that you are guilty of 'the exact same thing' as the shooter. (That was another one)
How is it a false equivalence? Mocking and celebrating a political assassin is ok as long as the person doesn't die? Is that where you draw the line?

Edit- I do gotta say, the other site is filled with nut jobs, holy shit. People boycotting the game because Sucker Punch fired(correctly) the developer. That is another level of insanity
 
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Yeah

Not buying the game made by 200 different people, specially now that they've fired her is pretty stupid. But people are stupid.

Funny thing, people on Era are also mad at SP and dont want to buy the game anymore lol. So SP fucked up with both sides. A situation they cant win.

Im glad that SP acted fast and rightfuly

Someome ITT hasn't played their copy of Ghost 1 yet, so they're gonna sell it.

...lol
 
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