I can't wait for someone to now go..."Ok..hold my beer"
"Code your own engine and show us how it's done, please"
Randy Pitchford on Borderlands 4 Criticism: ''Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' i
amigastar
Member
Hmm, i would say.... no.
Dalbajobas
Member
It's CP2077. That game actually uses next gen rendering that we'll only see on ps6/nextbox like pathtracing.
BL4 has nothing of the sort... it doesn't even use hardware lumen.. which is still vastly inferior to PT and yet is somehow as demanding.
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Barrier Island Dweller
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Premium game that doesn't even have a FOV slider on console.
In 2025
Like wtf magic man
In 2025
Like wtf magic man
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think Randy is having a bit of a meltdown over twitter right now.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Man is a fraud.
Sega should've broken his kneecaps after what happened to Aliens: Colonial Marines
Sega should've broken his kneecaps after what happened to Aliens: Colonial Marines
Dalbajobas
Member
Doesn't Arc Raiders uses UE5.. nobody complained how the beta ran.. and that game looks fantastic unlike bl4.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Gotta support Randy on this one. Sorry guys.
The reality is that code-wise its 99% the same as the console builds. Engine patch-outs to API's and network back ends aside, its basically going to be identical.
If its running unexceptionally on those machines, then there's fundamentally nothing wrong. And as it seems that these complaints are mainly coming from the PC side... it appears to me standing in a neutral corner (afforded by my disinterest in the product and franchise) the problem appears to be that your hardware in actuality isn't as powerful as you thought it was.
Bottom line: Lower your expectations, and turn those settings down until you get acceptable performance.
The reality is that code-wise its 99% the same as the console builds. Engine patch-outs to API's and network back ends aside, its basically going to be identical.
If its running unexceptionally on those machines, then there's fundamentally nothing wrong. And as it seems that these complaints are mainly coming from the PC side... it appears to me standing in a neutral corner (afforded by my disinterest in the product and franchise) the problem appears to be that your hardware in actuality isn't as powerful as you thought it was.
Bottom line: Lower your expectations, and turn those settings down until you get acceptable performance.
Dalbajobas
Member
Explain to me how BL3 runs at 200 vs 40 BL4 on the same hardware, when games look nearly identical.
My dumb brain thinks it would be better for devs to use same engineas BL3 then, so gamers can enjoy 200fps instead of game looking barely any better and only get 40. It seems that most steam users are on the same isle.
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Miyazaki’s Slave
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He is a billionaire…he gives zero shits.
I believe he thinks he is shielding the company from a bunch of bad press by putting the target on his own back.
I believe he thinks he is shielding the company from a bunch of bad press by putting the target on his own back.
Hero_Select
Member
Okay Randy
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
runs fine on a ps5 and ps5 pro
if you reading randy... stay randy
thanks for promoting console gaming instead of nvidia
(thanks for making my 850 euro gpu fucking useless in 3 years) so i can use it to play indie games
go fuck yourself also
if you reading randy... stay randy
thanks for promoting console gaming instead of nvidia
(thanks for making my 850 euro gpu fucking useless in 3 years) so i can use it to play indie games
go fuck yourself also
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ThisIsMyDog
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If you have 3-year old GPU that cost's you 850euro 3 years ago.. then Borderlands 4 is going to play nice on it. People needs to stop overreacting already..
phant0m
Member
There's a lot of people that forked out big $$ for an RTX 5000 series, refuse to turn on DLSS or Framegen, then cry the game only runs at 45 fps. Or claim that anything <120 fps is unplayable
PCMR YouTubers love this shit, the "TERRIBLE PERFORMANCE! ONLY 45 FPS ON A RTX 5090" thumbnail will get a zillion fucking clicks.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
borderlands 3 didn't run right on it on launch 3 years ago.
(after the patch clown show it did)
Bojji
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Plague Doctor
Member
Man, every time the world seems like a fucked up and dark place, I can count on Randy to be the clown that makes me laugh at the absurdity of it all. Or maybe just the absurdity of him. Mostly him.
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Barakov
Member
OOF. This is definitely see you in six months situation.
phant0m
Member
I mean I've got 11h played already and it's a great time, hasn't impacted my experience at all.
But if you're more into playing frametime graphs then you do you boss
Pop
Member
You know how you read about different games and groups of people will always say something like, "the game runs great. I dont see the big deal."
Ya can't trust some because 30fps feels and looks fine to them with below 1080p res.
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Lunnarre
Member
Except the performance is still bad on the best hardware money can buy.
Bottom line: The game is optimized like shit.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Shit take as always when it comes to PC.
Kadve
Member
Knowing him he probably runs the PR department
Soodanim
Gold Member
Randy knows that the more he talks the more it keeps BL4 in people's minds. He might even make BL4 trend if his rants get enough attention.
PC Gamer post and article and then it gets shared around various platforms and Randy's motto of any publicity being good publicity is proven to be true. Except when it's a USB stick
PC Gamer post and article and then it gets shared around various platforms and Randy's motto of any publicity being good publicity is proven to be true. Except when it's a USB stick
Someone give him id softwares number please
"Code your own engine and show us how it's done, please"
Bojji
Gold Member
phant0m
Member
dude I wish id would license idTech it runs fucking butter compared to UE5
LavitzSlambert
Member
Aside from the premium gamers line which is a snide remark he should be panned for, everything else he said was reasonable and fair. He is an arrogant asshole but none of the rest of that tweet was off base.
OverHeat
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Soooooooooo
Switch 2 ports for a 9W handheld or 20W docked
How will that work in his world?
Switch 2 ports for a 9W handheld or 20W docked
How will that work in his world?
Dalbajobas
Member
Yeah you need around rtx 3060 to have same experience to ps5 in this game which is too much.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
"Code your own engine and show us how it's done, please"
Y'know, aside from the fact that Randy's a dumbass and being sarcastic, he's right about the absurdity of "The people doing it right now don't know what they're doing." Because they clearly do not. Look at the fucking disaster this engine has been for... how many finished products at this point? A lot. It's shocking that such an incompetently built engine made it out the door, that it still hasn't been fixed after years of botched productions, and that it's been a massive step backwards in terms of consistency from the existing tech from 5-10 years ago.
However, Randy is also incompetent, so I believe this was a very good product fit and he should definitely try and get another movie made.
Zacfoldor
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Everyone in the entire world: Why Randy Pitchford!?
Gandalf : Some believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love. Why Randy Pitchford? Perhaps because I am afraid, and he gives me courage.
Gandalf : Some believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love. Why Randy Pitchford? Perhaps because I am afraid, and he gives me courage.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Nah, it seems to me that performance scales poorly upwards for whatever reason. But, that's not an optimization issue.
In fact if the performance holds up relatively well on less powerful hardware, provided you make certain smartly-chosen cut-backs, that's actually evidence of good optimization.
Yes, you can spend big on the best hardware money can buy but that money doesn't buy you a better version of UE5.
And if the version of UE5 being employed doesn't benefit greatly from the additional resources of the expensive hardware... well, lets just say that maybe the bill of goods when you bought the hardware maybe overstated its capabilities.
KenaiPhoenix
Member
Well you guys wanted the "below $100" option, now you have to live with its consequences.
He did warned you (Not me, I was never going to touch this game)
He did warned you (Not me, I was never going to touch this game)
Yes SSD. Upscaling and frame gen sucks imo, great if you want a muddy picture but nothing else. But yes I've tried with it on too. Frame rate is understandable for my specs, it's the UE5 stutters that ruin the game. Even playing on a 5080 using GeForce Now I get it at times.
phant0m
Member
Yeah man, dunno why you'd invest in Nvidia hardware if you refuse to turn on the core tech
I see no appreciable difference in IQ on a 27" monitor with DLSS Quality on or off. And 2x framegen feels great in BL4
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cash_longfellow
Member
BL4 actually looks fantastic though
Donald mac Ronald
Member
I wonder if these games break even, let alone a profit?
Wasnt 3 a flop?
Wasnt 3 a flop?