AMD and Intel are in negotiations to make AMD chips at Intel's foudries

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It looks like AMD and Intel might be exploring one of the most unexpected partnerships in years. According to a new report from Semafor, AMD is in early talks with Intel about using Intel Foundry Services to manufacture some of its chips. Normally, AMD relies almost entirely on TSMC for production, so shifting even part of its manufacturing to Intel would be a big move. The last time the two companies worked closely together was the Kaby Lake-G project, where Intel CPUs were paired with AMD graphics. The report doesn't reveal how much of AMD's future production might go to Intel. It could be a small backup arrangement or something larger, depending on how the talks develop. What's clear is that Intel is actively looking for new foundry customers to support its investments in advanced process nodes like 18A. Intel's current CEO, Lip-Bu Tan, has even suggested that the company might scale back or cancel 18A if demand doesn't meet expectations. Having a major customer like AMD onboard could give Intel more confidence to push forward.

The backdrop here is a surge of activity around Intel in recent weeks. The U.S. government has taken a 9.9% ownership stake in Intel, while SoftBank has invested $2 billion, and Nvidia has both partnered with Intel on new x86 chips and purchased $5 billion worth of Intel shares. Reports also indicate Intel has spoken with Apple about possible collaborations. All of this points to Intel trying to position itself not just as a chip designer, but as a go-to manufacturing partner for the wider industry.

For AMD, working with Intel could make sense from a supply chain perspective. The U.S. government has been pushing for 50% of chips sold in America to be produced domestically, and relying solely on TSMC leaves AMD exposed to both geopolitical and logistical risks. Earlier in 2025, AMD also faced U.S. export restrictions on some of its GPUs bound for China, adding another reason to consider diversifying its production strategy.

The challenge is that Intel's foundry technology still lags behind TSMC at the leading edge, so AMD would likely treat Intel as a secondary manufacturing option rather than a full replacement. Still, having Intel as a backup could provide insurance if AMD ever faced supply constraints or political hurdles. At the same time, it would validate Intel's ambition to manufacture chips for its competitors, a vision first outlined by former CEO Pat Gelsinger.

Neither company has commented on the report, so the talks could remain exploratory for now. But if AMD and Intel do reach a deal, it would be one of the most surprising twists in the semiconductor industry, showing how much government policy, global competition, and supply chain security are reshaping old rivalries.
 
That reddit dudes grandma is really looking out for him.

Hope he held.

Are these deals being forced on firms like Nvidia and AMD? Is it government pressure to keep intel alive?

Yes. That was evident from the moment the US government started buying up Intel shares.
 
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How is that gonna work when Zen 6 is gonna be 3nm? Intel can't even make current Zen 5 chips with their outdated processes.

In the long run, this will create more jobs in USA and better quality.

Jobs maybe, but quality, that is TBD. TMSC have not always had the kindest words for their US employees at their Arizona fab. Also if Intel uses DEI to hire people, the results might not be as good as they could have been.
 
How is that gonna work when Zen 6 is gonna be 3nm? Intel can't even make current Zen 5 chips with their outdated processes.



Jobs maybe, but quality, that is TBD. TMSC have not always had the kindest words for their US employees at their Arizona fab. Also if Intel uses DEI to hire people, the results might not be as good as they could have been.

I doubt AMD would use Intel's A18 for their CPUs, considering the rumors of bad yields.
But they might use an older node for the IO chip.
 
Does this means that Intel is going to step up their fabrication process and give some competition to TSMC in some of the older nodes? That'd so awesome for the prices of absolutely everything...
 
How is that gonna work when Zen 6 is gonna be 3nm? Intel can't even make current Zen 5 chips with their outdated processes.



Jobs maybe, but quality, that is TBD. TMSC have not always had the kindest words for their US employees at their Arizona fab. Also if Intel uses DEI to hire people, the results might not be as good as they could have been.
It will be years until something actually will be produced, until then things could change. Most likely it will be something beyond the Zen 6 generation. Even the negotiations could slow down or completely fail.
 
Are these deals being forced on firms like Nvidia and AMD? Is it government pressure to keep intel alive?
Honestly, even without the bullshit from the US government, as soon as Intel started shooting itself in the back of the head it made sense to do this. TSMC has limited capacity at its fabs as it is.
 
Also if Intel uses DEI to hire people, the results might not be as good as they could have been.


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I think the political landscape in the west has made people forget.....or maybe they never knew what DEI actually means especially for the tech industry.
 
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How is that gonna work when Zen 6 is gonna be 3nm? Intel can't even make current Zen 5 chips with their outdated processes.



Jobs maybe, but quality, that is TBD. TMSC have not always had the kindest words for their US employees at their Arizona fab. Also if Intel uses DEI to hire people, the results might not be as good as they could have been.
Base from my own experience and my families experience, from past to present, made in USA has always been high quality. Price in the long run will, stabilize with proper negotiations, tax cuts and incentives especially once more factories are build in USA and hire more Americans. About DEI, it's a different climate this days under Pres Trump, and common sense is back and there are already allot of good executive orders to stop allot of woke and dei crap especially in companies. What is sad is this companies when they invest and outsource to other countries especially in Asia and South America, that is where they infect there twisted woke and dei crap to the work place policiea. I know some companies who outsource in Asia and South America, that are already forcing and pushing for woke and dei crap like for example misuse of pronouns and biological men are allowed to use womens comfort room, bathroom, and even snooze boxes.
 
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Base from my own experience and my families experience, from past to present, made in USA has always been high quality. Price in the long run will, stabilize with proper negotiations, tax cuts and incentives especially once more factories are build in USA and hire more Americans. About DEI, it's a different climate this days under Pres Trump, and common sense is back and there are already allot of good executive orders to stop allot of woke and dei crap especially in companies. What is sad is this companies when they invest and outsource to other countries especially in Asia and South America, that is where they infect there twisted woke and dei crap to the work place policiea. I know some companies who outsource in Asia and South America, that are already forcing and pushing for woke and dei crap like for example misuse of pronouns and biological men are allowed to use womens comfort room, bathroom, and even snooze boxes.

DEI initiatives are never going away in the tech industry because there is no way you are gonna fill all the jobs you want/need without them, at some point you are gonna have to attract talent from outside the proverbial box.
Thats why you see these tech companies attending job fairs and expos around the world.....talent is everywhere.

Future consoles using this combo incoming?

AMD chips built at Intel fabs?
Considering next next gen is like what 15 years away.....anything is possible.
 
DEI initiatives are never going away in the tech industry because there is no way you are gonna fill all the jobs you want/need without them, at some point you are gonna have to attract talent from outside the proverbial box.
Thats why you see these tech companies attending job fairs and expos around the world.....talent is everywhere.



AMD chips built at Intel fabs?
Considering next next gen is like what 15 years away.....anything is possible.
I agree. DEI was just poisoned by woke leftist and pride agenda especially from previous political climate. The true meaning of DEI as you shown before from those screen shot, was good and its all about innovation, opportunity and creativity. And diversity of thoughts when it comes to innovation and creativity. Not about pushing and forcing politics and woke agendas.
 
I agree. DEI was just poisoned by woke leftist and pride agenda especially from previous political climate. The true meaning of DEI as you shown before from those screen shot, was good and its all about innovation, opportunity and creativity. And diversity of thoughts when it comes to innovation and creativity. Not about pushing and forcing politics and woke agendas.

You know who really poisoned the whole meaning of DEI by linking it to being woke, a word that they also poisoned??
 
Base from my own experience and my families experience, from past to present, made in USA has always been high quality. Price in the long run will, stabilize with proper negotiations, tax cuts and incentives especially once more factories are build in USA and hire more Americans. About DEI, it's a different climate this days under Pres Trump, and common sense is back and there are already allot of good executive orders to stop allot of woke and dei crap especially in companies. What is sad is this companies when they invest and outsource to other countries especially in Asia and South America, that is where they infect there twisted woke and dei crap to the work place policiea. I know some companies who outsource in Asia and South America, that are already forcing and pushing for woke and dei crap like for example misuse of pronouns and biological men are allowed to use womens comfort room, bathroom, and even snooze boxes.
I agree with your story but i laugh about the high quality US products remark.
Nobody want's made in USA products, the quality is just poor, rather have german products those are build to last.
 
The 100% tariffs on chips, might have an effect.
But TSMC also has Fabs in the USA.

The thing is, Intel still has the second best Fabs in the world.
US Gov also manufactures a lot of specialized components on Intel exclusively due to security concerns.

Intel won't be allowed to collapse completely, IMO, which current events show.
 
Which leads to more expensive hardware as the cost of living and wages are certainly more expensive. Not to mention any tariffs on the materials to make these chips
It is what it is. If Xi invades or blockades Taiwan, it's going to be much better to have maybe more expensive Intel production but hav it actually available.
 
I agree with your story but i laugh about the high quality US products remark.
Nobody want's made in USA products, the quality is just poor, rather have german products those are build to last.
We'll see how long that mindset can hold with the massive number of immigrant kids entering the workforce.

Personally I find "made in USA" products to be quite good on average, compared to A. obviously rock bottom wal-mart/amazon level chinese goods and B. higher quality/QC chinese products that have an equivalent price tag to US made stuff. Clothing in particular, but lots of non-electronic things in general.

VERY hard to find consumer level electronics without it being, at best, a bunch of chinese parts just assembled in the US, but at least then you hope it gets good QC on the back end. While there are some issues with quality of plastic used or long term durability of hinges or whatnot in chinese made stuff, the real issue is ZERO QC for obvious problems in the product that they figure the "it's so cheap its easier to just buy it again" mindset can solve versus spending the time on QC.

It's reliability and customer service that can make or break a US company, especially in a critical component to your job.
 
Finally out of the red with my Intel stock.

About damn time. Unfortunately in that time most the other stocks I could have invested in doubled if not nearly tripled. 😭
 
It is what it is. If Xi invades or blockades Taiwan, it's going to be much better to have maybe more expensive Intel production but hav it actually available.
This. Chipsets are the new oil. EVERYTHING uses them. There is NO WAY IN HELL the world would let just one place pump all the oil. Same with chips, even more so in the AI race. We need far more fabs out there because we are getting real close to a single event/location catastrophe that could devastate the modern world.
 
You know who really poisoned the whole meaning of DEI by linking it to being woke, a word that they also poisoned??
Woke and DEI are two separate ideas. Woke agenda are extreme ideologies and politics being force and push to our throats. It's just that influential and extreme leftist included woke ideology to the DEI initiative making DEI twisted, and with the support of previous administrations.
 
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