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Air Strikes in Caracas
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ChorizoPicozo
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Nydius
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Reading through this thread has me wanting to fire up Tropico 6 again for some morbid reason. 
It's impossible to overstate how badly Chavez and then Maduro ran the country into the ground for their own wealth and power. Venezuela went from one of the richest, most free Latin American countries to one of the most poverty stricken and authoritarian.
That's because millions of Venezuelans have fled all over the world during the Maduro regime. Many would love nothing more than to go back but they couldn't while Maduro was still running things.
It's impossible to overstate how badly Chavez and then Maduro ran the country into the ground for their own wealth and power. Venezuela went from one of the richest, most free Latin American countries to one of the most poverty stricken and authoritarian.
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Bernardougf
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Being from south america and knowing what the people of venezuela are going trough for years... I dont think they mind at all loosing some of the oil to the US if it means living in a democratic country with a prosperous open industry.
I can only wish he did the same thing in my country with one of Maduros best friends and his accolades.
Some regimes unfortunately cant depend on a false democracy for a change.
I can only wish he did the same thing in my country with one of Maduros best friends and his accolades.
Some regimes unfortunately cant depend on a false democracy for a change.
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Jinzo Prime
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Why send him to New York? He should be standing trial in Miami.
MayauMiao
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"Well done, Trump. I give your stealth capture 2 Thumbs up!"
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
TBR this is a hilarious picture to come right after his "come and get me!" clip.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
What's all the drama about excactly? A movie like villain of a dictator got removed to the celebration of it's citizens and the US gets some favorable deals on their oil. Seems like a clear cut win-win in my book.
Ahh, now it makes sense. Can't wait to see the media coverage of Venezuelans traveling back to their home.
Ahh, now it makes sense. Can't wait to see the media coverage of Venezuelans traveling back to their home.
"And here, dear viewers, we see Venezuelans willingly enter the airplane back to their motherland. But don't let the majority of smiles fool you, we have reliable reports that they are crying on the inside. Will they get to their destination, or be dumped at sea? We aren't afraid to ask the difficult questions. But no one can deny that this is probably horrible stuff!"
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't care for the tribalistic liberal vs conservative angle, but frankly I just find it strange that there is so much huffing about whether Trump covered all the legal bases far above expressing excitement that a known dictator was removed from power with minimal loss of life. If I had to guess I'd say any weariness Venezuelans have about an unknown future is trumped (no pun) in knowing their 25+ year oppressive regime is no longer in power. The positives by far outweigh any negatives here and it isn't even close.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
Well its par for the course... leftists and dem are crying wolf while people in Venezuela are happy they now can hope to dream of eating like a proper human being... fucking trump
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Past countries have experienced that same relief only for a fascist to be immediately installed who proceeded to slaughter tens of thousands and plunge the rest right back into terrible conditions. I'm certain the sense of fresh air is great but the concerns for what happens now are very real. Just ask Syria right now, oh, except of course all the people who were slaughtered throughout the last year by the Salafi psychopaths we put in power. We don't typically give a single flying fuck about what happens to the people of these places as long as we are getting what we want. I really do hope Venezuela gets control of their own destiny and share in the wealth of their oil but as I already said, I'll believe it when I see it. It would be counter to a century of how we relate to South America.
JackHanma
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Malcolm X was right about white liberals. All over social media these brain dead traitors are making Maduro out to be the equivalent of Mother Teresa. I am so glad over educated and over socialized white women know what is best for Venezuelans, more than Venezuelans themselves.
Everybody trying to falsely compare this to Iraq and Afghanistan is huffing their own farts. Venezuela was a beautiful and largely prosperous country before Chavez and Maduro. Furthermore, I am just laughing at the imbeciles that both support Ukraine and Maduro... Umm hello, Maduro was a Russian ally.
Everybody trying to falsely compare this to Iraq and Afghanistan is huffing their own farts. Venezuela was a beautiful and largely prosperous country before Chavez and Maduro. Furthermore, I am just laughing at the imbeciles that both support Ukraine and Maduro... Umm hello, Maduro was a Russian ally.
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ReBurn
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Homocidal empathy
JackHanma
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Trump just keeps winning and all the Libtards are fucking seething. It is beautiful to see. Hopefully we see the IRGC fall next so that all the funding for these domestic terrorists calling for the death of the West on our streets fade away into oblivion.
JackHanma
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No surprise. These pigs form the greatest threat to western power - The Liberal White Hag demographic.
Bernardougf
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Its hard to explain in a forum but "Cleaning" a deeply religious country (with a more radical religion) is much harder, because theres a mindset installed in the whole population not only some leaders. You can go in there and take out the radical leader but you cant convince the whole population to change their ways and live like westerners.
Venezula its not a muslim country.. the population wants liberty and freedom and western commerce and values .... they just dont have the opportunity.
Maybe now they can have this opportunity. It dosent mean they will make good choices... but at least they can have the chance to fuck up thenselfs or improve their country trough free elections
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Unknown?
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Liberals I know are saying Chavez brought Venezuela's poverty down and it's just US sanctions that ruined things, not socialism.Reading through this thread has me wanting to fire up Tropico 6 again for some morbid reason.
That's because millions of Venezuelans have fled all over the world during the Maduro regime. Many would love nothing more than to go back but they couldn't while Maduro was still running things.
It's impossible to overstate how badly Chavez and then Maduro ran the country into the ground for their own wealth and power. Venezuela went from one of the richest, most free Latin American countries to one of the most poverty stricken and authoritarian.
LordCBH
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Yup. And, if I'm not wrong, they've had that before, right? Which makes the desire to get it back that much greater.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Topher
Identifies as young
I'll agree there and push all the political rhetoric to the side.
Well said. I think the hope should be that democracy is reestablished and faith in the system is renewed. They have had 25+ years of Marxist dictatorship. They are going to have to figure out how to not put extremists in power.
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Dr Bass
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Love seeing the initial reactions when no one knew what was really happening to how reality turned out. People are so entrenched in their camps that they can't control their mouths and wait for a complete picture to come out before opining (or maybe better yet, just don't opine at all). Looks like the Venezuelans are over the moon though, which tells you everything you need to know.
I saw no complaints from certain folk when Obama killed Americans via drones, supplied cartels with military weapons, or flew us into Pakistan and killed Osama bin Laden then dumped his body at sea. On that last one I think he was called a hero actually. Not saying I disagree on that one either, just comparing the response.
I saw no complaints from certain folk when Obama killed Americans via drones, supplied cartels with military weapons, or flew us into Pakistan and killed Osama bin Laden then dumped his body at sea. On that last one I think he was called a hero actually. Not saying I disagree on that one either, just comparing the response.
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Mortisfacio
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Reading through this thread has me wanting to fire up Tropico 6 again for some morbid reason.
That's because millions of Venezuelans have fled all over the world during the Maduro regime. Many would love nothing more than to go back but they couldn't while Maduro was still running things.
It's impossible to overstate how badly Chavez and then Maduro ran the country into the ground for their own wealth and power. Venezuela went from one of the richest, most free Latin American countries to one of the most poverty stricken and authoritarian.
Yah, I get the history behind that. Was more just curious if there was some lockdown by military or something as when I searched livestreams of Venezuelans celebrating, I found streams all over the world. None in Venezuela. Hence the question initially if there were any, because it wasn't popping up in live results. I'd only seen a few circulating on Twitter and Insta, but they all ended up being old videos recirculating.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
IF we allow them to determine that for themselves. How much do you know about the history of other "not Muslim" South American countries and our desire for their goods? Their moments of "liberation" and the things that followed as we rigged them to go in a specific direction that only had our good in mind? It's not a good history. I will have a celebratory attitude more progressively as I see us not fuck them over, IF that happens.
Bernardougf
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Exactly.. unfortunately south america is riddled with left extremism (much different from the US left) ... so even with the freedom they can well fuck up in their choices, but at least they have the chance to make this choices.. I can only hope that having lived trough a communist dictatorship they learned to not mettle with the south america left anymore.
DeepEnigma
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Bernardougf
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Of course Trump and his adm has its goal... but everything has a price... the enemy of my enemy is my friend... and if most of the world didnt give a fuck about Maduros ruthless regime, now its all eyes on deck for Trumps/Us stay in the area, Venezuelans were suffering for years, and suddenly everyone cares about what will happen to them under evil US/Trump... its a joke really.
Not having what to eat, no humans right, no toilet paper, no freedom at all , having to flee to shit countrys to be a begar being the better option than staying at your more shittier home.. well it cant get worse than this.
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kevboard
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S0ULZB0URNE
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So a improvement.
Still shit though.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
We don't have the complete picture lol. Nobody knows how this is going to play out from here.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
An insanely dangerous country with narco-terrorists running the government and you are gonna send in civilians from oil companies without any support?
HAYA8U5A
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Toons
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Its more like just saying that openly is egregious stupid.
And Trump has repeatedly proving that he's not above doing things that are so dumb you'd think they are jokes.
Like the fact you're arguing that we arent supposed to take the president's own words seriously (until he actually does that thing he was talking about and then we are) is.... kinda one of the issues at hand aint it?
Don't worry. Years down the line were gonna hear that "everyone" thought it was a bad idea and "U.S. shouldn't be the world police" anymore because it "doesn't help Americans"
I've heard that one plenty of times even here, so its interesting to see the script flip overnight.
StereoVsn
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Yep, the military, cartels and the gangs are still there. Celebrating would be like painting a target on yourself.
Gp1
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Bernardougf
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Theres no freepress in venezuela to show this kind of things... so a lot of things need to change for the real "freedom" to be achieved
Unknown Soldier
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Topher
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"To those who say that the United States is only interested in oil, I ask those people: What do you think the Russians and the Chinese wanted? The recipe for arepas?"
Bernardougf
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"To those who say that the United States is only interested in oil, I ask those people: What do you think the Russians and the Chinese wanted? The recipe for arepas?"
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P:axMagellanic
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I've noticed this international law shit only ever comes up to defend the absolute worst people, or policies that the people are desperate to overturn.
Can't deport that muj motherfucker?international law! Some NGO taking the absolute piss out of your country? International law! Cake or death? Well so very sorry, but choosing cake is very much against international law, sir.
Angry_Megalodon
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Those organizations are mostly occupied by western traitors or citizens from enemy countries. The same applies to most NGOs funded by Russia or China and the Pro-Arab funded by Hamas and Iran. These pieces of shit will never talk about climate change or oppresion in those fucked up countries, only in liberal democracies. They should all fuck off. Or better, get disbanded or "freed" in the American way.
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