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StueyDuck said:
Have you just refused to educate yourself on what actually happened here?

Trump didnt bomb randomly and force regime change, it was a surgical strike with minimal casualties to remove a dictator who negotiated his own removal and was already wanted by "international law" for overthrowing democracy and forcing his opponent (who won) into hiding.

I can only assume you read the title and just assumed the US did mass air raids across Venezuela killing 1000s in the name of love or some nonsense.
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There's a good reason I compared you with liberals, they were using the exact same horseshit excuses and buzzwords when they were defending Obama's wars. "Surgical strikes", "dictators don't count", "democracy"

Funny how the US doesn't have a problem with actual dictators like Saudι Arabia's and are allied with them, probably the most totalitarian, bloodthirsty dictatorship in the world next to North Korea's. Do some of you guys even believe your own bullshit, or are you just a mindless relay of propaganda?
 
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Memes are amazing over this though
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Man, the extreme left is embarrassing. I am checking Twitter and Reddit and I am shocked at how cold and terrible these people can be. They dont give a shit about Venezuelans, they just want to criticize Trump not matter the cost.

Absolute despicable people
 
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My in-laws and wife's family woke up still in shock. There are armed bandits in my in-laws building ensuring that they remain inside. People are elated, this is in the town of Charallave.

In the neighborhood of Los Palos Grandes, people are hitting the streets to call for the surrender of the regime and the military to finally listen to the will of the people.

Today there could be violence.

As for Cuba: I am trying to get an update from Havana, but much of the Island has been without any power for weeks now. Hopefully word is spreading and something might spark. As soon as I hear from my cousin in Havana (who is a secret dissident and student of Austrian economics), I will report back.

VIVA LA LIBERTAD!


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Gonzito said:
Man, the extreme left is embarrassing. I am checking Twitter and rmReddit and I am shocked at how cold and terrible these people can be. They dont given a shit about Venezuelans, they just want to criticize Trump not matter the cost.

Absolute despicable people
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*they always defended communist dictators.
 
Gonzito said:
Man, the extreme left is embarrassing. I am checking Twitter and rmReddit and I am shocked at how cold and terrible these people can be. They dont given a shit about Venezuelans, they just want to criticize Trump not matter the cost.

Absolute despicable people
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True, and what they're proclaming they don't even think through. Yes it's about the oil, and yes that's good for everyone except Putin and Iran. Putin's oil is already down to 35$/barrel, they barely make any profit off it, just imagine with Venezuelas resources the US could easily completely kick Putin out of the international oil market. And Iran as well. So all the anti-democratic assholes are shivering nowy

Thank you Trump, and I say that as European who thinks sometimes he's dumb as fuck (gulf of america lol). But his actions, be it in Iran, Gaza or now Venezuela, definitely speak for him (or his counselors).

Maybe it's not just Maduro who fell, but Putin as well.
 
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LordCBH said:
If the other nations in this planet didn't want the US to become the de facto world police, then they NEVER should have treated the US like the world police.
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While there is an element of truth to this statement, it shifts the burden of responsibility wayyyy too far. Historically, sure, the US was the de facto world police after WW2 by default. It's not like the other nations had a choice back then. When that power hegemony persists for decades, how is that dynamic ever supposed to meaningfully change? Factor in all the monetary incentives for war over the years, the corrupting influence of money in politics, and an increasingly disenfranchised, uneducated, and disillusioned public, and we get a system that siphons away funds from the people in order to enrich the donor class via war, in the name of global security. What do you do when the system creates global destabilization so that it can fix it 10 years later for a hefty price?

 
UltimaKilo said:
My in-laws and wife's family woke up still in shock. There are armed bandits in my in-laws building ensuring that they remain inside. People are elated, this is in the town of Charallave.

In the neighborhood of Los Palos Grandes, people are hitting the streets to call for the surrender of the regime and the military to finally listen to the will of the people.

Today there could be violence.

As for Cuba: I am trying to get an update from Havana, but much of the Island has been without any power for weeks now. Hopefully word is spreading and something might spark. As soon as I hear from my cousin in Havana (who is a secret dissident and student of Austrian economics), I will report back.

VIVA LA LIBERTAD!


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Hope your in-laws stay safe and that better days are ahead for them.
 
An EU paralysed by bureaucracy is the least bad option, short of abolishing it.

Madonis said:
However, it might have been well worth the risk to take out 2 or 3 of those other top guys in the process. You wouldn't need five days for that.
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It's obvious for operational reasons why they wouldn't do what she suggested. Asking this question allowed him to deflect from her real question, which was is the US still confrontational with the remainder of the regime, or is the US now partnered with the remainder of the regime?

The idea that the US is apparently going to govern Venezuela via aircraft carrier diplomacy (rather than via occupation) suggests that Plan A is to partner with the regime rather than to dismantle it.
 
So, this wasn't the entire point of the no kings protests then? Was that just a ruse? Did they really want kings for some reason?
 
Sonik said:
Funny how the US doesn't have a problem with actual dictators like Saudι Arabia's and are allied with them, probably the most totalitarian, bloodthirsty dictatorship in the world next to North Korea's. Do some of you guys even believe your own bullshit, or are you just a mindless relay of propaganda?
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So these crooks in the US's sphere should be allowed to do what they want because they're allied with Saudi? Is that your argument?
 
Sonik said:
There's a good reason I compared you with liberals, they were using the exact same horseshit excuses and buzzwords when they were defending Obama's wars. "Surgical strikes", "dictators don't count", "democracy"

Funny how the US doesn't have a problem with actual dictators like Saudι Arabia's and are allied with them, probably the most totalitarian, bloodthirsty dictatorship in the world next to North Korea's. Do some of you guys even believe your own bullshit, or are you just a mindless relay of propaganda?
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We won't have to bend a knee to the middle east for continuing oil supply in coming years as Venezuelan infrastructure is built up. Then we can start taking out murdering pieces of shit like MBS of Saudi Arabia.
 
Gonzito said:
Man, the extreme left is embarrassing. I am checking Twitter and Reddit and I am shocked at how cold and terrible these people can be. They dont give a shit about Venezuelans, they just want to criticize Trump not matter the cost.

Absolute despicable people
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Iphone communists are like that, where I live they're starting to say "well, now you have you country back, why don't you go asap and leave my place!" all the supposed empathy from the LATAM brotherhood went down the drain the minute Maduro was taken by the US Government, lmao
 
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Ass of Can Whooping said:
So these crooks in the US's sphere should be allowed to do what they want because they're allied with Saudi? Is that your argument?
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The obvious point is that this has nothing to do with dictators. If the US cared about democracy they wouldn't be allied with one of the worst dictatorships in the world, or pay billions to other ones, and if they cared about cartels they would attack Mexico, not Venezuela

I am honestly starting to wonder if some of you guys actually process the information you're getting on the internet or you're just repeating it without thought because it's your team
 
calico said:
It's obvious for operational reasons why they wouldn't do what she suggested. Asking this question allowed him to deflect from her real question, which was is the US still confrontational with the remainder of the regime, or is the US now partnered with the remainder of the regime?

The idea that the US is apparently going to govern Venezuela via aircraft carrier diplomacy (rather than via occupation) suggests that Plan A is to partner with the regime rather than to dismantle it.
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You know...if there were indeed some secret talks with one or more top military guys to sell out Maduro, that would also explain this state of affairs.

You wouldn't necessarily want to bomb the hell out of someone else who is cooperating with you, even if their motives are unholy.

The underlying risk is said guys know Trump's policy isn't sustainable nor guaranteed to continue. They can cooperate for a little while and then stop.

Plan A is certainly a low cost approach, despite the fact it will disappoint a lot of Venezuelans, but let's hope this loose end won't come back to bite folks.

ChuckeRearmed said:
One way or another cartels have to be dealt with because it is pretty clear Mexico does not want to do that (corruption + threats).
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You can decapitate the cartels but they're like a hydra. The snake will grow another head, infinitely, because the profits are insane.

In that particular area, I think there is no real military solution. The "war on drugs" is terrible policy and won't work any better now than before.
 
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Sonik said:
The obvious point is that this has nothing to do with dictators. If the US cared about democracy they wouldn't be allied with one of the worst dictatorships in the world, or pay billions to other ones, and if they cared about cartels they would attack Mexico, not Venezuela

I am honestly starting to wonder if some of you guys actually process the information you're getting on the internet or you're just repeating it without thought because it's your team
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Doesn't matter if the reason is because he's a dictator, for oil, or just because Trump was bored. The guy needed to go, and you're just giving playground argument why the US shouldn't have removed him
 
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EviLore said:
Hope your in-laws stay safe and that better days are ahead for them.
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Thanks. My mother-in-law is a longtime dissident (as was her father before her), so they have had a target on their heads from time-to-time. If it gets very hot, we may get them over to Bogota for a while, where we have an apartment.

We just spoke to them on WhatsApp. They have internet. My wife's grandmother is in Petare and owns a pharmacy which had long lines this morning until they were forced to shut down 30 minutes ago because the water was shut off.

There is hope (based off a rumor) that Elon Musk will provide Starlink, but I can't find anything on the subject.
 
Topher said:
Damn….time to bring charges against those who killed Bin Laden, I guess.

Someone call Barrack and tell him the bad news

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They resort to calling it "kidnapping" now when criminals are arrested here. The foreign influence (and domestic provocateurs) playbook and narratives are fatigued and transparent.
 
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JackHanma said:
Malcolm X was right about white liberals. All over social media these brain dead traitors are making Maduro out to be the equivalent of Mother Teresa. I am so glad over educated and over socialized white women know what is best for Venezuelans, than Venezuelans themselves.

Everybody trying to falsely compare this to Iraq and Afghanistan is huffing their own farts. Venezuela was a beautiful and largely prosperous country before Chavez and Maduro. Furthermore, I am just laughing at the imbeciles that both support Ukraine and Maduro... Umm hello, Maduro was a Russian ally.
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They're also blocking videos of people celebrating on reddit in many subs, and only allowing narratives that people are upset with it. A few French people burning an American flag getting tens of thousands of upvotes or a few protestors somewhere else.
 
Madonis said:
You know...if there were indeed some secret talks with one or more top military guys to sell out Maduro, that would also explain this state of affairs.

The underlying risk is said guys know Trump's policy isn't sustainable nor guaranteed to continue. They can cooperate for a little while and then stop.

Plan A is certainly a low cost approach, despite the fact it will disappoint a lot of Venezuelans, but let's hope this loose end won't come back to bite folks.



You can decapitate the cartels but they're like a hydra. The snake will grow another head, infinitely, because the profits are insane.
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I think that cooperation with someone in the regime preceding the attack is almost a given.

The snake growing another head analogy is an apt one for the remainder of the regime I think. The operation demonstrated how trivial a thing it is for the US to remove the head. The head which behaves itself and plays ball with the US will stay; the head which does not will be removed. These aren't Islamic fanatics, so I'm sure the lesson will be learned soon enough.
 
Teslerum said:
Obama said that Maduro is a dictator.
Biden said that Maduro is a dictator.
Harris has said that Maduro is a dictator.

Yet, I'm now seeing american leftists across social media calling Maduro a legit president and how he should be freed.

Politics in this world is beyond fucked in the head. I'm not american either.
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Logic doesn't matter for those people.

LordCBH said:
If the other nations in this planet didn't want the US to become the de facto world police, then they NEVER should have treated the US like the world police.
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America became world police when its leaders were far more predictable and in alliance with the "west". Trump represents none of those things.

LordCBH said:
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This is, for the 250th year in a row, accurate.
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America became super strong in XX century.
 
Sonik said:
There's a good reason I compared you with liberals, they were using the exact same horseshit excuses and buzzwords when they were defending Obama's wars. "Surgical strikes", "dictators don't count", "democracy"

Funny how the US doesn't have a problem with actual dictators like Saudι Arabia's and are allied with them, probably the most totalitarian, bloodthirsty dictatorship in the world next to North Korea's. Do some of you guys even believe your own bullshit, or are you just a mindless relay of propaganda?
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I mean you call others "liberals" but you basically have the talking points of a first year polysci student whose got a lot of material for us to read 🤣

But again you completely ignored the series of events that happened which proves to me you are just arguing in bad faith because "america bad".

Im sure there's a drum circle somewhere you can go join
 
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Just FYI

After Maduro's disputed third inauguration in January 2025, the Biden administration raised an existing U.S. bounty on him from about $15 million to around $25 million.
 
Romulus said:
Just FYI

After Maduro's disputed third inauguration in January 2025, the Biden administration raised an existing U.S. bounty on him from about $15 million to around $25 million.
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Me and the boys were waiting for it to reach $100m before we oiled up the kit and received cortisol injections to our knees 🤣
 
Teslerum said:
Obama said that Maduro is a dictator.
Biden said that Maduro is a dictator.
Harris has said that Maduro is a dictator.

Yet, I'm now seeing american leftists across social media calling Maduro a legit president and how he should be freed.

Politics in this world is beyond fucked in the head. I'm not american either.
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You're talking about people who'd argue Obama, Biden and Harris were actually all right-wing though.

They're tankies and other commie folks who are way, way to the left of your average (D) senator or representative.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
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this has been in the communist playbook forever now. Saul Alinsky wrote about it in 1971 "Rules for Radicals." These are paid protesters with a few deranged stragglers.

A lot of these people don't know what they're even advocating for. They clamor for socialism while sipping a latte, wearing Lululemon and posting on Reddit on their MacBook Pros or smartphones.

The leftist philosophy is (mostly) based on our worst human traits by appealing to our better angels.
 
Ass of Can Whooping said:
These are the people who are pro CCP, North Korea etc basically
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Sadly those in their same party use them as useful idiots and not denounce them. So what does that say about those who use them to gain power then?

Lambogenie said:
Where there is oil, there is America. That's all I know!
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The entire world is reliant on it. The very same hypocrites denouncing everything Russia, are buying from Russia 🤷‍♀️
 
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This is a good read for people who are interested in the geopolitics

Monroe Doctrine is alive and well because it prevents adversaries from establishing forward bases in our backyard
 
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