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Monitoring the situation in Iran

You also gotta realize just how fucking massive the oil transport operation is. There are an estimated SIX THOUSAND tankers of various types in the world, and I bet they run damn near non-stop. Oil is the worlds blood, "the oil must flow!" isn't just a rip off a sci-fi book. No one has the capability to police all of them and quite frankly, everyone has all the incentives (aka $$$) in the world to NOT look too closely at how the blood shows up, so long as it keeps coming.
 
EviLore said:
Yes. The issue is that there is limited coverage outside of reporting on state propaganda, statements from politicians, or the occasional human rights group. Since the legacy media don't have people on the ground in Iran they tend to ignore the rest.
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BBC has a Live Reporting page on Iran here. Is constantly being updated.

www.bbc.com

More Iran protests erupt as supreme leader accuses crowds of 'trying to please Trump'

The country is under a nationwide internet blackout after almost two weeks of widespread anti-government protests.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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kruis said:
BBC has a Live Reporting page on Iran here. Is constantly being updated.

www.bbc.com

More Iran protests erupt as supreme leader accuses crowds of 'trying to please Trump'

The country is under a nationwide internet blackout after almost two weeks of widespread anti-government protests.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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They started updating yesterday evening after being called out all over social media. They didn't even have it on the front page at all the entire week.

This has been going on for over 10 days. Glad to see them show up though.
 
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All the best to Iranian people. Hope things actually change and it'll be much better going forward. It's crazy when people would post pics and videos what Iran was like in the 60s and 70s. Aside from the ethnic background of the people in those pics, you could had guessed that was a typical western city 50 years ago with nice buildings, cars and shops.

I'm actually surprised the Iranian government didnt use their military might and steamroll the packed streets of protesters marching. It looks like they've laid down due to sheer numbers marching.

But you never know what will happen next. Remember BLM and it was 4-5 days of lawlessness in some cities where cops barely did anything and the military had to organize and fight back to control the streets? Maybe the gov is just planning a big counter push to take back the streets.
 
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What a moron. "Let me trash talk the guy who just captured Maduro in 6 minutes..."
 
DeepEnigma said:
Oh well. Won't work.
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I wish I knew. From what I've learned about Iran over the last couple years, many people there are suspicious enough of western interventionism that they don't see overthrowing the dictator as the clear cut victory people in the west see.

A lot of that suspicion is justified, given the country's history. And this is also part of the reason why the regime still has plenty of supporters.
 
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efyu_lemonardo said:
I wish I knew. From what I've learned about Iran over the last couple years, many people there are suspicious enough of western interventionism that they don't see overthrowing the dictator as the clear cut victory people in the west see it.

A lot of that suspicion is justified, given the country's history. And this is also part of the reason why the regime still has plenty of supporters.
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I meant controlling the internet discourse.
 
Good for the women of Iran. Those religious police are real fucking Nazis. The west cant even begin to fathom the power they have both perceived and real over the people.
 
winjer said:
He feels betrayed by the Iranian people.
And because he is a psychopaths, he does not understand the reasoning for it. He does not understand the plight of the Iranian people.
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Dictators never do because it's none of thier concern until the masses start beating down thier door. Just look at what's going on in Russia. Putin has nearly killed 1 million of his own people, and not a single fuck is given by that man. You can't rule through fear and force forever. Eventually, the people will view that they have nothing left to lose anyway.
 
Big-G said:
Dictators never do because it's none of thier concern until the masses start beating down thier door. Just look at what's going on in Russia. Putin has nearly killed 1 million of his own people, and not a single fuck is given by that man. You can't rule through fear and force forever. Eventually, the people will view that they have nothing left to lose anyway.
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What I find fucking tragic is that Russia has experienced as many as 1.2 million casualties (possibly 500 thousand actual deaths) for so little gain relative to the cost. And yet, last I knew, there was no active uproar against him. Maybe I'm wrong and missed something, but I just can't even fathom that here in the States. That many dead and such a colossal failure of the goal in just a few years? I can't even imagine what that backlash would look like. We've had politicians shot at for way less.
 
Varteras said:
What I find fucking tragic is that Russia has experienced as many as 1.2 million casualties (possibly 500 thousand actual deaths) for so little gain relative to the cost. And yet, last I knew, there was no active uproar against him. Maybe I'm wrong and missed something, but I just can't even fathom that here in the States. That many dead and such a colossal failure of the goal in just a few years? I can't even imagine what that backlash would look like. We've had politicians shot at for way less.
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Probably because of 3 things:

1. The public is too afraid to face Russian cops/military retaliation. It gets to a pint when it comes to protests if the numbers are too great, no cops or military can fight back. It's just too many. There's not enough Russians who want to band together and take over the streets to protest to make a difference

2. The public actually supports taking over Ukraine. Or they just dont care what happens. If it kills some people, they dont care as long as it doesnt affect their own friends and fam

3. A combo of both
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
Probably because of 3 things:

1. The public is too afraid to face Russian cops/military retaliation

2. The public actually supports taking over Ukraine. Or they just dont care what happens. If it kills some people, they dont care as long as it doesnt affect their own friends and fam

3. A combo of both
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There is also a level of apathy due to Russia being very very big.
 
Varteras said:
What I find fucking tragic is that Russia has experienced as many as 1.2 million casualties (possibly 500 thousand actual deaths) for so little gain relative to the cost. And yet, last I knew, there was no active uproar against him. Maybe I'm wrong and missed something, but I just can't even fathom that here in the States. That many dead and such a colossal failure of the goal in just a few years? I can't even imagine what that backlash would look like. We've had politicians shot at for way less.
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Public apathy persists because the burden of the war is disproportionately borne by ethnic minorities, the poor, the uneducated, the elderly, conscripts from remote regions, and other expendable groups such as criminals and general dumbasses. It's not Moscow's middle class being fed into the meat grinder in Ukraine.

Ukraine, for its part, has largely focused on striking legitimate military targets rather than targeting Russian civilians or civilian infrastructure.
 
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