It depends on the way it's implemented but my guess is they are hoping a large portion will be casual users who don't give a shit about that kind of stuff and will just stick to the Xbox store. Similar to how Android works. Sure you can install other stores but not many people are doing that.
Casual users aren't going to buy a $1200 "console"
Fair enough. At this point we have no idea if they will "decide" what stores go on it all though lol
HeisenbergFX4
have said about this being a console. Obviously you are correct that it isn't up to Microsoft if it is truly an open Windows 11. Everyone can do what they have always done in PC land.
...but how will they sell gamepass en masse with only 10m boxes in homes?
They won't, those subs will slowly bleed out from the Series S/X/One owners as they migrate away from Xbox.
I will add maybe things have changed within castle green and this thing could come out as a full bore windows 11 PC but as of a few months ago being a fly on the wall hearing the very top dogs still at Xbox/MS talk about these machines I heard them talk about Xbox console and Xbox PC as being separate entitiesI think we agree. I was trying to reply to the question of this in the context of a console with multiple stores. We have some competing theories going around here from what Jez is describing as a "full bore Windows" PC and what K KeplerL2 and
Yeah things can change that's fair.
Right. But then those would be apps that could install apps/games. Thus why "apps can only come from Microsoft store" isn't compatible with it.
I think It's like what Epic got google to agree to for android. Make it easy to install multiple official stores, But greatly disallow installing from outside of them.
That will not make up for mass bleeding of the loss of MTX and sub revenue, at all.
DeepEnigma
suspects they have a plan to sue Nintendo and Sony to allow third party stores so maybe that's the plan. I've seen Jeff Grubb predict the same but who knows.
It won't but Phil is not the best leader. lol
While something as extreme as $300 may likely never happen, I wouldn't count out over $50 if they need to meet an affordable price point. Sony today is a completely different beast to Sony in 2006 in terms of the money they make. I don't think a PS3 type loss would even result on operating loss for them nowadays.
The HW required for BC is now part of standard Radeon gfx IP going forward. BC will likely remain exclusive to 1st-party Xbox devices for legal reasons.
I guess it depends on what the extra horsepower is worth to people since they both will run Steam
Samsung is a hardware company. and they don't just sell phones they sell the components in the phones to other companies.
How many of Steam hardware survey do you think runs Steam OS? More or less than 10%? I'll give you a minute.
It's roughly 2x CPU perf and 4x GPU perf (raster), not including massively improved RT and AI performance, new features, etc.
People who want Xbox to survive is desperately trying to find sources of revenue that doesn't involve making Magnus cost more than Alienware pcs. The Math isnt mathing.
I mean unless these "Xbox" OEMs are aggressively priced I don't see a reason Why I would pick it. Because it can play 360 and OG Xbox games? Yea you can do that now already on PC. I dont care about performance if its "good enough" and priced right. Thats why I said we'll see.
Lack of launcher popularity doesn't make it a different type of device. It's still the same thing, just booting into a different launcher with a different OS underneath.
Thanks for the Info.
Agreed, affordability is important but the difference in architecture is big. 2x price difference would limit it a fair bit despite it being a better deal.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was renamed to Peasant Station 6 once all specs are revealed for both.
It's adorable watching you slip into full PC-elitist roleplay after your precious Xbox has been getting obliterated for 20 straight years.
