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[Critical Hit]

Just... Why was this their project?

Oh, you really don't know? It was their choice! (according to yurinka ) https://www.neogaf.com/threads/gaming-will-become-more-expensive-again.1690279/post-271009718

 

[Disciple of MSSP]

Un fucking believable. They deserved so much better. And to think they already had the bones for a Bloodborne remake. Sony baffles me.

 

[Topher]

I didn't think my confidence in Sony as a video game company could get any lower. This really sucks.

 

[J Required]

Nooo, not Bluepoint!!!

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Ps5 is selling bangers yet Sony is having their Xbox one moment, how is this possible

Bot.

 

[adamsapple]

Gonna pop in either the SoTC remake of the MGS HD collection to celebrate Bluepoint's great work.

Sony really shat the bed.

 

[Kacho]

Fuck Sony
Fuck them right in the ass with a cactus
Hope they choke on a barrel of rotten dicks
Fuck them in every which way till they are a bloodied stomp that's getting beaten by their own testicles until they look like bloody apple sauce

 

[Magic Carpet]

Nixxes is for ports. Bluepoint is remakes

Close down Bluepoint and move the staff over to Nixxes. Best of both worlds for PC gamers.
Ramakes and/or ports to PC.

 

[Gaiff]

Totally false and a pure lie. You've just stated MS wasn't even half competent over the last 15 years. Do you realize how long 15 years is? It's okay to credit Sony with Playstation overall, while also hating this STUPID move.

They weren't. Xbox went full retard back in 2010-2011, when they went off to chase Nintendo's customers and kept the same mentality with the Kinect bundled with the X1. The Xbox division has been incompetent for 15 years and counting.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I didn't think my confidence in Sony as a video game company could get any lower. This really sucks.

Just wait until they close Bend and Media Molecule, censor the hell out of the God of War trilogy remaster, and announce a $1000 PS6!

 

[near]

Record profits:

Meanwhile at Sony HQ:

 

[m14]

Hermen sending a direct message to the lobby demanding a Bloodborne remaster. That door has now shut, comrades.

 

[rkofan87]

Wat.

Here it is from our boy Hulst:

 

[YCoCg]

Actual retardation from Sony.

 

[Wass0o7]

Bot.

Sorry it's a tough pill to swallow

 

[Brock2621]

So let me get this straight, Sony wastes YEARS of the studio's time and talent forcing them to make some stupid multiplayer God of War game, then loses 400 million dollars on Concord, gets cold feet and cancels the God of War project, and then punishes the entire studio for doing exactly as they were told by just shutting it all down.

Absolutely brilliant.

 

[Fabieter]

I get this, but again we don't have access to the financials. It's likely that EA producer from earlier this year was right..."A 100 million dollar game needs to sell 6 million copies to break even".

BluePoint wasn't a 10 person studio. They were probably going to be making a 100 million dollar game. What obvious formula was laying on the table that was going to produce 10+ million in sales?

Break even is not the goal.

They should have just pitched another generic extraction shooter and they would still live no matter how garbage it was haha.

 

[Harlock]

Media Molecule still open just because white male guilty?

 

[Windom Earle]

Guerilla is next after their garbage live service horizon flops

Since the world is not fair, no.

 

[CowboyLou]

Who dont value art.

Whoa whoa whoa buddy, I know passions are hot right now, but do we really want to spark an "are games art?" thing right now??

 

[bitbydeath]

Close down Bluepoint and move the staff over to Nixxes. Best of both worlds for PC gamers.
Ramakes and/or ports to PC.

Nixxies moved to becoming a support studio recently, they might be next.

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

The cost of Concord, The Last of Us Online, GoW live service, Fairgames, Horizon Hunter's Gathering..

Guess the dreams of Bluepoint working on a Bloodborne Remaster or hell.. even the new GoW Remakes are dead

Thanks Herman

 

[Wass0o7]

Close down Bluepoint and move the staff over to Nixxes. Best of both worlds for PC gamers.
Ramakes and/or ports to PC.

Helmen literally has said slow growth, so yep expect a lot more PC ports maybe even switch ports soon

 

[Gaiff]

Guerilla is next after their garbage live service horizon flops

Hermen would sooner burn Sony and the world to the ground before letting anything happen to Aloy.

 

[phant0m]

Herman building himself an EXCELLENT legacy to leave behind

 

[Crunchbox]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sony acquire them not long ago? Makes no sense at all if their purpose was to make ports

Dont need to make ports anymore. Only games that will sell needs ports and most of the studios can make them theirselves using all these new tech and things they have now. Also ps5 games wont ever need to be remastered or port. Bluepoint is pointless now and in the future.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I didn't think my confidence in Sony as a video game company could get any lower. This really sucks.

If Helldivers 2 had cross-progression to the PC, GT7 had a PC port with VR, and GTA6 was coming out day and date on there as well, I'd jump ship fully right now.

Maybe I shouldn't say the HD2 one out loud. Then it will never come.

Not even Naughty Dog has me "oh I need to have this" like they once did with Uncharted and TLoU. Intergalactic (at the moment) doesn't have that same spark. Especially with the typical condescending character reveal.

 

[bighugeguns]

Sorry it's a tough pill to swallow

It's true, line is going up, Sony best. I kneel. You are gaming master brain man. Be happy many days of life.

 

[Wolzard]

 

[Cr1ptkeeper]

So sad to hear! Was looking forward to their next single player game...

But let's face it, Sony isn't making games anymore for the people that grew up with PS1 or PS2. They're making games for the people growing up with Fortnite.

 

[rkofan87]

Hulst is a cancer.

yep he's making Jim Ryan look like a saint

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Back away Jim and Herman

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So let me get this straight, Sony wastes YEARS of the studio's time and talent forcing them to make some stupid multiplayer God of War game, then loses 400 million dollars on Concord, gets cold feet and cancels the God of War project, and then punishes the entire studio for doing exactly as they were told by just shutting it all down.

Absolutely brilliant.

Unfortunately that's how business works.

When something tanks, the other brands or studios got to pick up the slack to get sales and margins up.

And if extra sales aren't realistic then it's layoffs to improve financials that way.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Bluepoint developed my favorite game on the system.

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[Fabieter]

Herman building himself an EXCELLENT legacy to leave behind

Yeah hes fully focused on short term profit without giving a fuck about sustainability.

 

[HallowedFeast]

Surprised by the number of people here defending Sony by bringing up their profit margins.

I thought this was a forum for video game discussion, not a gathering place for the soulless corporate lizards responsible for this whole mess.

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

Unfortunately that's how business works.

When something tanks, the other brands or studios got to pick up the slack to get sales and margins up.

And if extra sales aren't realistic then it's layoffs to improve financials that way.

Bluepoint was never given a proper chance to "pick up the slack".

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

How can you know they were acquired with the goal of becoming a live service studio? And my friend, if Sony bought an 80-person studio that had never made a live service game in its life with the intention of having them develop a live service title, then they're complete idiots. That would be like buying an orange expecting it to taste like a strawberry.

It's my assumption based on what transpired.

PlayStation and BluePoint had a history of remastering games then once they were purchased (after Demons Souls) it appeared they started work on a GAAS.

Also worth noting that it's likely, or at least possible, that they've been making a non GAAS title for a year now and it failed to spark Sonys interest.

I also don't buy the theory that you can only make a GAAS game if you made a GAAS game before. Chicken or egg problem.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

What an absolute gut punch.

How the fuck do you shut down bluepoint?

Fucking bluepoint. Like what???

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Wouldn't be surprised if Sony is pivoting their remakes and remasters to China. Maybe heavily use AI.

Hermen would sooner burn Sony and the world to the ground before letting anything happen to Aloy.

Except he won't greenlight Horizon 3 cuz it's not GAAS.

 

[blacktout]

Guess the dreams of Bluepoint working on a Bloodborne Remaster or hell.. even the new GoW Remakes are dead

Yeah, I honestly thought Bluepoint was working on GoW Remake Trilogy. The timeline even seemed to line up, since it's in early development and their live service God of War was recently cancelled. But, nope, guess I was being too optimistic.

 

[Fabieter]

Unfortunately that's how business works.

When something tanks, the other brands or studios got to pick up the slack to get sales and margins up.

And if extra sales aren't realistic then it's layoffs to improve financials that way.

In sports you change the trainer for fucking up you wont let the whole fucking team go because of stupid management.

 

[ungalo]

Record profits:

Meanwhile at Sony HQ:

exactly, but somehow people in the thread believe those decisions are dumb from a business standpoint

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Bluepoint? Who's Bluepoint, we're Horizon Studios, currently working on Project Aloy. Don't deadname us.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

Do we know if the god of war live service game was something they pitched or was it something they were given to do?

 

[benzy]

Absolute garbage leaderships

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

You know what failed to even come to market?

GoW GasS.

True.

BluePoint had two risky paths to take. The path they chose didn't work. That doesn't mean the other path was going to. They made the best bet they could at the time.

 

[near]

exactly, but somehow people in the thread believe those decisions are dumb from a business standpoint

I was taking the piss. Fuck Sony.

 

[ReyBrujo]

A niche Sony is in a unique position to exploit with a huge back catalog.

That's a big part of what Nintendo does, but Sony is noping out I guess to go make Horizon hogs.

But you don't really need a first party to make the remakes, that's what companies like Digital Eclipse do (well, might not be the perfect example but I don't see the point in buying a company to exclusively work on them).

 

[LostDonkey]

There's 2 L's in Cancelled.

That's all