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[Unfortunatecookie]

Worst case it will perform like PC.

These days consoles perform like equivalent pc hardware only.

Specific optimisation is dead.


Xbox Series hardware, I would compare it to Apple.

My xbox is 5 yrs of daily use. Completely silent, looks and feels brand new.

The hardware itself isn't terrible at all, but the hardware business? Complete dumpster fire.

They lost the support of a major retailer in their strongest market, and I predict (just a prediction) it won't be long before another major retailer joins Costco.

 

[xanaum]

Microsoft is worse at pretty much everything compared to Sony, they can't even be a decent competitor anymore. And honestly, Xbox is just a sad box of ashes, and I already have the "future Xbox" at home on my PC.

 

[Ellis]

Worst case it will perform like PC.

These days consoles perform like equivalent pc hardware only.

Specific optimisation is dead.


Xbox Series hardware, I would compare it to Apple.

My xbox is 5 yrs of daily use. Completely silent, looks and feels brand new.

If that were the case then explain to me (you can't) why I don't get shader compilation bullshit and stuttering issues on my PS5 Pro like I do with my PC then ?

What you just said couldn't be further from the truth, and you know this.

 

[Topher]

If you really don't care about Sony first party, the series x is a way better 3rd party/multiplat console, Dev mode, quick resume, more comfortable controller, more controller options, cheaper games, looking for group options.

Disagree. I'd stick with PS5 for multiplats simply due to the likelihood that some games will skip Xbox altogether. I'd put more value into that over what you list which is mostly subjective or irrelevant for many.

 

[Goalus]

It's the only way.

 

[Deficit]

Disagree. I'd stick with PS5 for multiplats simply due to the likelihood that some games will skip Xbox altogether. I'd put more value into that over what you list which is mostly subjective or irrelevant for many.

Every big 3rd party game that isn't moneyhatted by Sony has came to Xbox. It's missing a few weeb games though.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

If that were the case then explain to me (you can't) why I don't get shader compilation bullshit and stuttering issues on my PS5 Pro like I do with my PC then ?

What you just said couldn't be further from the truth, and you know this.

Its fixed hardware.

No shader stutter like Series consoles. Devs will make profile for it. There is a thing called smart delivery on xbox.

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

Depends on the MSRP or more the street price of Magnus, the power and what else is possible. Can i use it like a normal PC and does it costs way less than a Gaming PC with same specs?
Then yes, i will buy a Magnus and not a PS6.
I don't care if a play my games on a Xbox, PS console or on the PC.

 

[Sohurmk833]

LMAO

Not in a million years. Microsoft ist even bigger garbage.

 

[Euler007]

Lol.

 

[subzero83]

If you really don't care about Sony first party, the series x is a way better 3rd party/multiplat console, Dev mode, quick resume, more comfortable controller, more controller options, cheaper games, looking for group options.

This is laughable. many third-party games are coming a year or more later and the controller is a preference. The other stuff 99% of people won't care.

 

[lestar]

Lol, that will be like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. If anyone is moving from PS, they are going to PC.

 

[Topher]

Every big 3rd party game that isn't moneyhatted by Sony has came to Xbox. It's missing a few weeb games though.

Like it or not, it's a factor.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

If you really don't care about Sony first party, the series x is a way better 3rd party/multiplat console, Dev mode, quick resume, more comfortable controller, more controller options, cheaper games, looking for group options.

I'll give you stuff like dev mode (which 99% of people don't give a shit about or even know it exists) and quick resume but the bolded?
-The controller comment is purely subjective and simply down to preference.
-Cheaper games? I don't buy as many games on Xbox versus PlayStation or Steam but when I look at sales Xbox and PlayStation are almost always the same. I didn't spend a lot of time looking but I checked a couple games both physically and digitally and there was maybe a $1-2 difference in either direction.
-The controller options is true but it's not as big of a gap as you probably think it is. Both generally get the same options for stuff like fight sticks, HOTAS, racing wheel, etc. Both get the same "pro" options from people like Scuf, Nacon, Victrix on top of their first party options. You do get stuff like 8bitdo and Gamesir but most of them are still wired so I doubt many people choose it. Still though Xbox does get more options that is true.

 

[Gojiira]

Lmao no. They aren't 'reliant' on Xbox games at all, have you actually seen how well first party stuff has sold? Better than Xbox's soooooo wheres the reliance? On top of that I dont see Xbox putting out Returnal and soon Saros do you? Yes Playstation has made some stupid decisions, but Id rather they make some stupid decisions and come back swinging having learnt what not to do than be like Xbox and be so arrogant as to release mediocre title after mediocre title.
Bluepoints closure is baffling given they were only 70 people but its very likely they'll end up merged with another first party studio so the talents not going anywhere.

 

[Deficit]

I'll give you stuff like dev mode (which 99% of people don't give a shit about or even know it exists) and quick resume but the bolded?
-The controller comment is purely subjective and simply down to preference.
-Cheaper games? I don't buy as many games on Xbox versus PlayStation or Steam but when I look at sales Xbox and PlayStation are almost always the same. I didn't spend a lot of time looking but I checked a couple games both physically and digitally and there was maybe a $1-2 difference in either direction.
-The controller options is true but it's not as big of a gap as you probably think it is. Both generally get the same options for stuff like fight sticks, HOTAS, racing wheel, etc. Both get the same "pro" options from people like Scuf, Nacon, Victrix on top of their first party options. You do get stuff like 8bitdo and Gamesir but most of them are still wired so I doubt many people choose it. Still though Xbox does get more options that is true.

Xbox usually has the same sales as steam (not the bundles though). Because the publishers control the pricing on there IIRC. While Sony controls the pricing on their store, again IIRC I could be wrong.

 

[Deficit]

This is laughable. many third-party games are coming a year or more later and the controller is a preference. The other stuff 99% of people won't care.

Quick resume and BC are pretty good features. Sony moneyhats a lot of 3rd party games. They have been doing this since the PS1/PS2 days. Pretty much every non moneyhatted 3rd party games come to Xbox. It is missing a few anime games though. But, no way i'd move there. Future is too uncertain. Who's to say Xbox won't be like "we're done with hardware, you can stream your library via the cloud, deuces"

 

[Sinozen]

Why the hell would you move from one abusive partner to the other? Go PC. Be free.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Why the hell would you move from one abusive partner to the other? Go PC. Be free.

Next xbox is also going to be open platform. Can move to that as well and be free.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Kinda interested in what the console-only people who actively avoid PC gaming will do.

I'll stick with just Nintendo going forward.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I keep seeing people say shit like this on here but is it really true? Sony has never released a badly performing console outside of the PS Vita. Sure maybe it would have sold 80M versus 92M or whatever it's at now.

People gotta try to live outside of this Neogaf bubble. I work with a lot of people that would never go on any sort of gaming forum or something similar and nobody cares about any of the stuff I see talked about here despite a lot of them spending a ton of time playing games.

I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying PS5 is selling poorly.

I'm saying PS5 is selling well because despite its disappointing first party lineup, it still looks compelling compared to Xbox.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Xbox usually has the same sales as steam (not the bundles though). Because the publishers control the pricing on there IIRC. While Sony controls the pricing on their store, again IIRC I could be wrong.

Like I said I just checked and on games that are on sale at the same time (My criteria was simultaneous releases and both platforms having the game on sale as unfortunately some stuff like Borderlands 4 is just not on sale at all on Xbox for example) the difference was maybe $1-2 which I wouldn't consider noticeably cheaper. At least not enough to base a console purchase off of. Physical was the same way.

I'm not saying some games aren't sometimes cheaper on Xbox but again I doubt it's enough or often enough to be a deciding factor when somebody is buying a platform. Especially when one platform is noticeably cheaper then the other.

I'll stick with just Nintendo going forward.

I'm sure this will go well in a couple years.

 

[Topher]

Xbox usually has the same sales as steam (not the bundles though).

No, they don't. Publishers can generate Steam keys for free. On Xbox, publishers have to buy the keys and then resell. There isn't as much incentive for publishers to do this and so many games are only found in the gray market keyshops which are not direct from the publisher and are still higher in price than Steam games.

 

[yogaflame]

Huh? Xbox is already dead. Maybe to Nintendo or if you are rich, a very good pc rig.

 

[Ellis]

Its fixed hardware.

No shader stutter like Series consoles. Devs will make profile for it. There is a thing called smart delivery on xbox.

Will they though. That time and effort for an incredibly niche machine.

No chance.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Will they though. That time and effort for an incredibly niche machine.

No chance.

Its not as niche as you think it would be.

Xbox is still one of the big three.

There is a lot of appeal in the system.

 

[K' Dash]

Nah, I'll keep PS5cam Pro and see the sinking ship from afar.

Fucking idiots won the console war doing absolutely nothing and shot themselves in the head.

I'd argue they're even more incompetent than Microsoft at this point.

 

[AmuroChan]

No, PS and Steam will continue to be my main platforms as 95% of my digital purchases are in those ecosystems. I also don't care that much about first party output. Some of them are cool, but I mostly play 3rd party games anyway, just like on Steam. I can't remember the last first party game Steam made.

 

[Sinozen]

Next xbox is also going to be open platform. Can move to that as well and be free.

Spoken like a battered spouse. You don't need em, bro.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

People are forgetting that Xbox Magnus has aspirational specs.

Save up and buy something nice. Treat yourself.

 

[Brock2621]

No, Sony is STILL the lesser of two evils, but the heartbreak is real because Sony seems intent on catching up with mismanaging their portfolio studios as much as M$.

"You were the chosen one....."

 

[Cakeboxer]

That's like out of the frying pan into the fire. Join the PC master race.

 

[Wastelander92]

Are you high OP??

 

[Ellis]

People are forgetting that Xbox Magnus has aspirational specs.

Save up and buy something nice. Treat yourself.

Most people don't give a shit. OG Xbox had "aspirational specs", and still got absolutely trounced by the PS2.

Your point is mute.

 

[SNG32]

Since PC is considered an Xbox then the answer is yes I already made the move.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Most cool games nowadays are multiplatform, don't see why any console bro should migrate to another system specially if they already own a lot of digital games for their current one.

 

[VitoNotVito]

What failures?
And why would anyone move to Xbox?
Is it some sort of trolling post?

 

[mckmas8808]

This might be the dumbest thread I've ever seen on GAF lol

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony wont course-corret.. anyone clinging to this notion should check their brains.

Im jumping ship as soons as I see a decent powerful pc box for the living roon , dont care about the price.

And if Xbox solution is good so be it.

Having weak cheap console restrictions without the benefit of great exclusives is an absolute deal break for me, so P6/sony can go fuck itself to gaas heaven.

Course correct to what exactly? I love what Bluepoint was. But they weren't Insomniac or Sucker Punch either. What's happening here?

 

[Bitstream]

Thats like jumping into a wood chipper because you sprained your ankle.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

To xbox nah (barely power on my xsx) but considering highend pc

 

[existensmaximum]

What kind of question is that? The only gaming company more retarded than Sony, is Microsoft. From now on it will be PC + Switch 2 for me.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Course correct to what exactly? I love what Bluepoint was. But they weren't Insomniac or Sucker Punch either. What's happening here?

Look at budget for Horizon Hunters Gathering.

Then compare it with GOW Sons of Sparta.

There is a clear shift. Maybe thats what they mean.

 

[Exede]

Why go to Microsoft when Nintendo exists?

 

[Zacfoldor]

Sony is the market leader by default only. They aren't particularly good at anything. I'll stick with them until something better comes along and then adios. Zero loyalty to Sony. I also hate their management decisions and think they will eventually fail due to short term decision making and ineptitude.

 

[Kilau]

Are you nucking futz? lmao

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I'm sure this will go well in a couple years.

Probably not for graphic whores.

 

[Humdinger]

There is no 'Xbox' to really move to. The next Xbox is just a PC with a fancy UI which plays Xbox backwards compatible games. And the Steam Machine is also a PC too.

So the real question is "will you move to PC?", and the answer to that is now 100% yes. Not like Sony aren't already balls deep in that market anyway if you really must play their latest studio killing live service slop.

Yeah, the question for me is "Do I move from PS5 to PC?" Moving to Xbox is moving to PC. But since I'm not an Xbox guy, I wouldn't choose Magnus even if I decided to switch to PC.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Should've put a 'laughing emoji' as one of the options.

Yes, let's jump from a ship with holes in it to a ship that's burned down and sunk. Surely that is our salvation

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

Are you on drugs Sir? "after Sony have spent a couple of years mismanaged under Herman Hulst would you move from PlayStation to Xbox who have been mismanaged for 2 decades, that'll show them"