winjer
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I was checking that thread for comparisons. And the improvements for vegetation clarity are huge.
With the Quality preset it's noticeable, but with the ultra preset it's a night and day difference. Impressive stuff.
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I was checking that thread for comparisons. And the improvements for vegetation clarity are huge.
With the Quality preset it's noticeable, but with the ultra preset it's a night and day difference. Impressive stuff.
b0uncyfr0
Member
Sure? I checked from discord, you could use any of the recent betas apparently
OLED_Gamer
Member
How does it look compared to the current FSR4 version?I replaced the amdxcffx64.dll in the driver folder, as to apply it globally and it's working fine.
winjer
Gold Member
Only tried 3 games, just a minute each. Looks a bit sharper overall.
But from what I saw on the reddit thread, it's in vegetation that looks much better.
winjer
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M1987
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I was just going off a comment i seen,I don't even know which one I haveSure? I checked from discord, you could use any of the recent betas apparently
dgrdsv
Member
No, they are not.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I can always count on you to defend the indefensible in a pointless driveby shit posting way.
GHG
Member
The only way you could say this in 2026 is if you're an AI customer of theirs.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You can still get some cards at MSRP, https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-5060...b-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814137965 that even includes a 240mm CPU AIO.
Would being able to get a 5090 for under $1,000 be great? Sure, but plenty of companies offer products for sales to people with more dollars than sense.
M1987
Member
I think it's FSR4.1 that you can get now by swapping the .dll file in Adrenaline,or putting the file in any optiscaler game
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Gp1
Member
Bro dumb and noob question
Which folder did you dropped the 4.10 "amdxcffx64.dll"?
The only amdxcffx64.dll on my pc is on C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\... and this folder has some sort of weird protection that doesn't allow me to replace the .dll nor change the permissions.
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M1987
Member
Safe mode was the only way I could do it,it wouldn't give me permission in normal mode
BeardSpike
Gold Member
I couldn't do it in safe mode was still getting the same error but I figured out that you have to change the owner of this folder in advanced options under permissions from SYSTEM to your account name and then enable full access permissions for your account, then copy the file and overwrite it and then delate the permissions for your account and change the owner to SYSTEM yet again for security reasons, I guess.
I also played around on Linux with it and it seems to work when I put it in Prefix of System32 folder. Which was much simpler than on Windows, lmao.
Plus I downloaded newest build of OptiScaler from their Discord and put the file in the same folder as OptiScaler and it seems to work just fine under Linux. Played a bit of No Rest for The Wicked today with friends and it seems crispier.
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Gp1
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I tried Safe mode, Admin CMD on Safe mode, changing ownership of the folder, and none of that worked
So I Injected with Opti on Cyberpunk. Using it on 4K XESS to FSR in performance mode It looks sharper but there are some small "granularity" on the RT reflexes that shouldn't be there.
But even with that, it looks like an improvement over 4.0 and its worth it.
BeardSpike
Gold Member
Changing ownership is not enough, then you have to add permissions for a full controll over that folder. For it not be read only.
I did it all through GUI though for what's it worth and not in safe mode. And I haven't used CMD. I have work today, I could basically just do a few screenshots how to do it after work. Because changing ownership in advanced options under permissions, when you right click isn't exactly up your face, horrible and unintuitive.
But then you can add another user just fine and I said screw it and added my own account instead of admin, just to not have additional pop-ups, lmao. And I just enabled full control with a few checkboxes for my own Windows account while adding it into permissions.
And I redid that after DLL swap to stock settings just fine.
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AltruisticFormality
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It was the same for me. Only amdxcffx64.dll was in a subfolder under FileRepository. I put the newer .dll in the root System32 folder and that worked for me.
But now if I go to System32 there is no amdxcffx64.dll there. And if I look for the file it only finds one in the original location, yet it still seems to work.
Maybe the system took the file from System32 and replaced the one in the other folder. I have no clue.
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winjer
Gold Member
It was the same for me. Only amdxcffx64.dll was in a subfolder under FileRepository. I put the newer .dll in the root System32 folder and that worked for me.
But now if I go to System32 there is no amdxcffx64.dll there. And if I look for the file it only finds one in the original location, yet it still seems to work.
Maybe the system took the file from System32 and replaced the one in the other folder. I have no clue.
I just remembered one tip from Optiscaler. If the upscaler version has an asterisc, such as in the picture you put, it means it's reading from the driver.
If not, it means it's reading the dll from the Opptiscaler folder.
BeardSpike
Gold Member
BeardSpike
Gold Member
It works on a few other games, but results vary. Sometimes it just works straight up bad.
I edited my post with RE9 PT working on AMD GPUs part. I wish someone would test this RR mod via Opti with RE9 on RX 9070XT as I will probably buy it but in later half of March, and I would want to know by that time if I can screw around with PT and RR through OptiScaler.
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winjer
Gold Member
I just checked the Nvidia list of games with RR. There aren't many and I only have CP2077.
But I'm not in the mood to reinstall GoG and then CP2077.
Still, these are awesome news.
BeardSpike
Gold Member
Might just check it myself when I buy RE9.
winjer
Gold Member
Autistic_Pancake
Member
No idea about ROCm, but running llamacpp (Vulkan) with 2x 9070 XT was pretty similar to 2x 3090 (no nvlink) in terms of tokens-per-second generation speed. However, prompt processing speed was somewhat slower.
I'd advice looking for more recent information, since it's been ~7 months since my dumb adventures with AMD cards. But yeah, you'd be alright using it, generally speaking.
BeardSpike
Gold Member
Speaking of pictures. I should Dual Boot to Windows though, I was going to show how I changed ownership and applied permissions to that folder in System32 where FSR4 DLL is stored. I just booted to CachyOS out of habit, lmao.Cool. Don't forget to tell us how it went. And show us some pictures.
Sorry
Gp1
winjer
Gold Member
BTW, I did a small performance test with FSR 40.03 vs 4.1
Just loaded Lies of P, with Optiscaler. Then switched between the 2.
I got the exact same execution time for both, 0.67ms, for quality mode, 2293x960 to 2560x1440 .
So better graphics and no sacrifice to performance.
Just loaded Lies of P, with Optiscaler. Then switched between the 2.
I got the exact same execution time for both, 0.67ms, for quality mode, 2293x960 to 2560x1440 .
So better graphics and no sacrifice to performance.
Kataploom
Gold Member
How many tokens per second did you get? I'm intending to use one, btw, mostly for chatbox with web search and copilot-like features (even my 6700 XT is working fine for the later)
BeardSpike
Gold Member
Gp1
Member
Autistic_Pancake
Member
I can't give a definite answer because my memory is a mess, and the numbers varied between different models (small ones like 8B were super fast, while 27B or 32B were slower), context sizes, etc.
I'm sorry if it sounds utterly ridiculous. I remember 15, 20, 25, 35, even 40 t/s... but like, when and why - good luck recalling that shit from 8 months ago. It did feel faster than my previous RX 6800 (non-XT), so you'd notice the difference with 6700 XT too.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Oh, don't worry I get it anyway, how good do you think 7B does for coding? Currently using 14B and it's good enough for copilot-like stuff like autocomplete, documentation, quick implementations I don't know about (like some small functions doing small calculations I need), etc.
Autistic_Pancake
Member
I doubt any 7B is capable enough to handle serious tasks. Also for coding you'd need either the full weights or Q8 model (high precision).
Speaking of recent models: Qwen 3.5 27B (dense, VRAM-hungry) seems to do fine, Qwen 3.5 35B (sparse, loads into RAM + only 3B in VRAM) is behind it but it's the only realistic option for a single GPU setup.
I'd say take a cautious look at Reddit's /r/LocalLLaMA/ posts, although keep in mind that people tend to over-react and over-hype things. Don't expect miracles, local LLMs aren't quite there yet to replace the giants.
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BeardSpike
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Boss Mog
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Same, I was lucky to get one below MSRP right before prices went up like crazy. I'm really liking it. I love how efficient it is once you reduce the power limit and undervolt it. I went from 350W to 240W power draw while actually increasing my performance.
BeardSpike
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winjer
Gold Member
That is because the game has no denoiser for AMD. AMD's Ray Regeneration would be the solution.
Bojji
Gold Member
Yeah, it's the first game I know that ships with no platform agnostic denosier for PT, just RR.
AW2, CP2077, even IJ all have default denoisers that can work on any hardware. But Capcom denoiser is so horrible with standard RT... it would look even worse with PT.
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winjer
Gold Member
But there is no need to use the Capcom denoiser.
There is a denoiser by AMD and another by Intel, that could be used.
Bojji
Gold Member
I think CP always used nvidia platform agnostic denoiser (NRD) that has far better quality than this (what Capcom used).
Yeah, Ray Regeneration will probably solve this but also block RDNA2/3 GPUs from using it.
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winjer
Gold Member
There is no lack of good denoisers in the market. Some of then open.
Capcom just screwed up again. Then again, this is an Nvidia sponsored title, so they might have just blocked it.
winjer
Gold Member
So I reinstalled GhostWire Tokyo and made a comparison between FSR2.3.4; FSR 3.1.5 and FSR4.1. All in Quality Mode. Using Optiscaler.
I picked a place with lot's of vegetation with lots of movement from wind. This is one of the worst case scenarios for a temporal upscaler.
With FSR2 there is a ton of ghosting and blur in the vegetation. Most detail is lost when there is movement. These images don't make justice to how bad it looks in motion.
With FSR3.1 there are very big improvements to vegetation in motion. But still not perfect and some detail is lost. There is also still a bit of ghosting.
FSR4.1 is pretty much perfect. Every leaf and grass bale is distinct in motion. And most detail is preserved.
I picked a place with lot's of vegetation with lots of movement from wind. This is one of the worst case scenarios for a temporal upscaler.
With FSR2 there is a ton of ghosting and blur in the vegetation. Most detail is lost when there is movement. These images don't make justice to how bad it looks in motion.
With FSR3.1 there are very big improvements to vegetation in motion. But still not perfect and some detail is lost. There is also still a bit of ghosting.
FSR4.1 is pretty much perfect. Every leaf and grass bale is distinct in motion. And most detail is preserved.
BeardSpike
Gold Member
Nice progress, I just hope we get like a proper RT denoiser and it can actually work with all games through like OptiScaler but the future will show if its doable.
Plus RT improvments on Linux side and I would be actually pretty happy.
But we will see.