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[Forsete]

Who thought this was a good idea?

 

[squallheart]

Angry Joe losing his mind on x is the cherry on top. Happy for the Iranian people.

 

[Sonik]

lol

 

[boo]

Oh nice. War. Good luck with your «war» against Iran. You do seem to only attack countries that have problems defending themselves. Maybe it is just a coincidence. But tell Israel not to bomb any other girl schools. Do no try to attack Norway and hands off our oil fund. See you at the World Cup. Okay, none of my business it is your war.

 

[Lord Panda]

That reason is just chef's kiss.

Anyway, Iran suddenly calling on the UN for intervention and crying about the legality of US and Israeli actions is some rich shit.

 

[Roy_goodguy]

Angry Joe losing his mind on x is the cherry on top.

Oh wow.. this is.. very disappointing for me.

 

[RJMacready73]

Who thought this was a good idea?

Islamists where never known for their high IQ's and rational thinking

 

[Sticks]

Play stupid games...

 

[Critical Hit]

But tell Israel not to bomb any other girl schools.

So you have a proof that this was a deliberate missile strike by the Israelis? Please share it with us.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

The missus has a close friend currently in Dubai that was due to come home today. She's safe though, but she heard and felt all the missiles apparently. Fingers crossed she can get a flight soon.

I think there's a fair amount of historical revisionism going on with this way of thinking. First, because the U.S. already has a history of unilateral military action. Not necessarily always for a good reason, mind you, but it's been done before. This represents a throwback, not a radical innovation. It might be a question of political willpower, sure, but it's never been one of capability.

Second, allies can still be useful for different things. Hell, you could argue a distinct set of allies has been more relevant for current operations in Iran. Evidently, European nations are not needed for the U.S. to get involved in the Middle East, both successfully and not. However, that could change in, say, a conventional, non-nuclear conflict against Russia. Not that it's likely to happen anytime soon...but you never know.

Third, Vietnam wasn't lost because of ROEs or pressure from allies abroad. The war became massively unpopular with American voters due to, among other things, the draft as well as unclear objectives, South Vietnamese corruption and its nature as an endless resource sink. The whole "oh, we could have won Vietnam if it weren't for those pesky lawyers" discourse is pure hubris. As a side note, the My Lai massacre was also an example of impunity and covering up responsibilities, so it's not like atrocities are consistently prosecuted.

I do think that taking out all of these religious fanatics and giving the people of Iran a chance is a good thing, at the time of this writing, but it's better to have clear eyes about all these things.

Yeah, it was complete bollocks. There's a degree of American hubris recently. 1) because there was a successful special op where historically the Americans are shit at it. Chavist cunts are still in power over there however.

2) they killed a foreign leader of a basket case of a country, but who the fuck knows if this will escalate to something truly retarded. Air defence has completely failed all across the ME... Again.

And America lost Vietnam because that generation of Vietnamese were arguably the best irregular fighters of that century. I mean... Some credit to them.

 

[Banjo64]

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

This is hilarious, every time someone does something now, it's to distract the popular opinion from epstein.

Everytime SOMEONE does something? No, it is just the tiby fact that the american president that is trying to hide from it that is remarkable.

People that can forget Epsteins actions and those of the people around him are the ones that are..interesting.

 

[winjer]

But it is true. Khamenei manage to turn Iran from a world power to a regional power.
People seem to forget that Iran, under the Shad, had a +10% economic growth. And was lending hundreds of millions of dollars to countries like France and the UK.
It had enormous economic and political power due to being one of the worlds biggest oil exporters.
And it had one of the most advanced air forces in the world.
It also was one of the leading middle eastern countries in social reforms.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Everyone stay safe

Update:

 

[hyperbertha]

Dubai being reduced to rubble is looking increasingly likelier than regime change in iran.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Nvm

 

[Ozriel]

Oh nice. War. Good luck with your «war» against Iran. You do seem to only attack countries that have problems defending themselves. Maybe it is just a coincidence. But tell Israel not to bomb any other girl schools. Do no try to attack Norway and hands off our oil fund. See you at the World Cup. Okay, none of my business it is your war.

Iran has no issues defending themselves. They're one of the most powerful countries in the Middle East.

You know who can't defend themselves? the unarmed protesters the IRGC gunned down in the thousands.

The girls school casualties will need confirmation and it's a tragic situation…but you have no words for the attacks on civilian infrastructure like the high rise in Bahrain, the two hotels in Dubai and the Dubai airport.

Don't be hypocritical.

 

[Clear]

But it is true. Khamenei manage to turn Iran from a world power to a regional power.

A regional power that expresses itself through tactical destabilization using proxies, whilst tyrannizing its own people.

Great achievement!

 

[Windom Earle]

Surprised to see so many who think this war will make the world a better place. It won't.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

UAE seems mad. Let's see what they plan on doing about it though

 

[Darius87]

Surprised to see so many who think this war will make the world a better place. It won't.

nukes in terrorist hands is way worse.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Everytime SOMEONE does something? No, it is just the tiby fact that the american president that is trying to hide from it that is remarkable.

People that can forget Epsteins actions and those of the people around him are the ones that are..interesting.

No one bombs a country for that, and it's not like everyone automatically forgets.

 

[Tams]

Surprised to see so many who think this war will make the world a better place. It won't.

Yeah, because your approach has achieved so much...

 

[xandaca]

Honestly, there's been thirty sodding years in which I'd have been perfectly happy for the Yanks to blow up an ayatollah, then the one week I've got a flight connection in Dubai and definitely don't want them blowing up an ayatollah, they go and blow up an ayatollah. Absolutely typical, tale as old as time.

 

[StueyDuck]

Angry Joe losing his mind on x is the cherry on top. Happy for the Iranian people.

That guy's been a retard for a while now, I dropped off his content years and years ago, people forget he was accused of sexual harassment many years ago then he became an "ally"...

Which is usually what the guilty people do

 

[Dr.D00p]

Interesting thought piece on why we're completing operations more successfully by simply ignoring Europe and all of its associated bureaucratic baggage and doing things solo (or with Israel in this case, who know how to play ball)



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You don't understand. I've watched a ton of congressional defense hearings. In EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. the Admirals and Generals say "we are only strong because of our allies."

At first I believed it.

Then I started attending defense conferences overseas. I watched U.S. GOFOs get treated like royalty. Five-star hotels. Wined and dined. Told how great they are for "being such great allies."

The pattern became obvious. Europeans spend lavishly on ego-boosting, awards dinners, and fine wine… and in exchange, every GOFO goes home and tells Congress how indispensable our allies are.
And our "allies" save a fortune on defense.

Then a buddy got a job at European Command and confirmed everything—except it wasn't just GOFOs. There are entire departments of people working in "intelligence" who are basically travel agents for generals and members of Congress.

Then I started digging into the UN. Guess what? They hold a massive number of "security" conferences too—except most of theirs are in straight-up resort towns.

Then I got inside a few think tanks. You want to see posh surroundings and excellent wine and food? Buddy up with them.

I started posting about all this a few years ago and got MASSIVE pushback—which I knew meant I was on the right track.

But I still wasn't 100% sure. Most of it was grift, but maybe some parts were essential… until Midnight Hammer. Then Maduro. Now this.

My European friends were totally blindsided by all of it. And guess what? We performed better without these great "allies."

Why?

Going all the way back to Korea, one thing has remained true: Europeans don't fully trust us—and they like having a little power over us. So they are absolute sticklers for Rules of Engagement.

They wine and dine our JAGs. They hold endless conferences about "the rule of law" to reinforce the "importance of ROEs."

And ROEs are what kills our military.
Nobody is suggesting soldiers should do anything immoral. Nobody is saying there shouldn't be consequences for atrocities. What I am saying is that having a battalion of JAGs and a dozen allied nations—each with their own ROEs—breathing down every commander's neck is why we lose wars.

That includes Vietnam, where most "allies" refused to fight but every one of them put serious diplomatic pressure on DC to tighten ROEs.

All of this "allies are our strength" dogma gets reinforced at these conferences, at war colleges, by European-influenced media, and through think tanks.

The reason we're suddenly so effective is because @PeteHegseth has cut all this out.

Our allies are flying blind. They can't throw up a million legal objections because they don't know the details behind these missions any sooner than we do.

Just look at Starmer's body language. He's clueless.

And it's not just our allies that no longer get to micromanage everything but media and UN diplomats and think tanks and bureaucrats and more.

Now if we could just cut Congress off from this "allies are great" grift, we could probably start passing legislation too.

P.S. I see no signs of Hegseth or DoW weakening our allies or alliances. They genuinely seem to want Europe to be stronger. They just aren't asking permission anymore or giving allies veto power over everything like before.
———

Yeah..let's see how this 'we dont need them' works out when the US has to face someone big enough to actually hit back...like China in the Pacific, and has lost a couple of Carriers to Chinese hypersonic missile attacks.

 

[Lord Panda]

Honestly, there's been thirty sodding years in which I'd have been perfectly happy for the Yanks to blow up an ayatollah, then the one week I've got a flight connection in Dubai and definitely don't want them blowing up an ayatollah, they go and blow up an ayatollah. Absolutely typical, tale as old as time.

Can you fly next to North Korea please.

 

[sono]

Reports of Iran attacking cyprus

 

[calico]

Starmer will probably give Cyprus to Iran.

 

[RJMacready73]

Honestly, there's been thirty sodding years in which I'd have been perfectly happy for the Yanks to blow up an ayatollah, then the one week I've got a flight connection in Dubai and definitely don't want them blowing up an ayatollah, they go and blow up an ayatollah. Absolutely typical, tale as old as time.

Haha friends of ours where due to fly to Australia yesterday via Quatar Lol... He was a trump fan so needless to say he's fucking ragin at him and he's being mercilessly slagged on our WhatsApp group

 

[RJMacready73]

Yeah..let's see how this 'we dont need them' works out when the US has to face someone big enough to actually hit back...like China in the Pacific, and has lost a couple of Carriers to Chinese hypersonic missile attacks.

Lol wise up the Yanks are like the fat bully in highschool they only hit small countries

 

[0neAnd0nly]

Lol wise up the Yanks are like the fat bully in highschool they only hit small countries

Oi, fat shaming there on social media, are you mate? That's going to get you arrested for body shaming.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Reports of Iran attacking cyprus

Wildly inaccurate, both the story and the missiles.

Stop being such a gullable 'X' drone.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Yeah, because your approach has achieved so much...

Hey, another strongly worded letter will 'em

Yeah..let's see how this 'we dont need them' works out when the US has to face someone big enough to actually hit back...like China in the Pacific, and has lost a couple of Carriers to Chinese hypersonic missile attacks.

And so what Europe would do then? Send 200 soldiers and 50 tanks? Or a spare aircraft carrier? The pacific region would be basically a batllefield akin ME - USA + Japan + Taiwan and maybe SK with India. Won't be that much different. The main value of Europe right now is airbases and only them.

Starmer will probably give Cyprus to Iran.

To Turkey.

 

[Sonik]

Everytime SOMEONE does something? No, it is just the tiby fact that the american president that is trying to hide from it that is remarkable.

People that can forget Epsteins actions and those of the people around him are the ones that are..interesting.

In fact it's pretty obvious that the entire Epstein island operation was a Mossad honeypot op and Trump is nothing but an obedient, blackmailed pedo so ignoring that makes you even that more interesting. And by interesting I mean fucking dumb

 

[EviLore]

Yeah..let's see how this 'we dont need them' works out when the US has to face someone big enough to actually hit back...like China in the Pacific, and has lost a couple of Carriers to Chinese hypersonic missile attacks.

…Europe…is going to come to our rescue in the pacific theater?

 

[Fake]

Angry Joe losing his mind on x is the cherry on top. Happy for the Iranian people.

Angry Joe is too busy forcing their buddies to watch Star Trek Academy.

 

[ContrarianAsshole]

Wow......interesting take.

It's interesting ... normally progressives have been careful to only criticize Israel by flipping it's relation to the US, saying that they are actually a US proxy in the middle east and that if Israel 'didn't exist, the US would have to create it" and what have you, so as to not draw in accusations of various 'isms', but lately I see more and more of these guys acknowledging that in actuality it's a case of the tail wagging the dog around

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Oh nice. War. Good luck with your «war» against Iran. You do seem to only attack countries that have problems defending themselves. Maybe it is just a coincidence. But tell Israel not to bomb any other girl schools. Do no try to attack Norway and hands off our oil fund. See you at the World Cup. Okay, none of my business it is your war.

It should be brought to your attention that Iran launched a +600 missile wave into Israel recently. Would you consider that an act of war or were they amicable, according to your wise judgment? Let alone the terrorist palestinians, also funded by Iran, or the shahed iranian drones that have attacked EUROPE for three years in the Ukraine invasion.

Do you have memory loss problems or your leftie brain is unable to assimilate info that contradicts your narrative?

Or maybe you are one of those fanatics traitors to our own civilization that are siding with Russia and Iran, in which case you can fuck off.

 

[Windle Poons]

Angry Joe is too busy forcing their buddies to watch Star Trek Academy.

Don't forget to buy GFUEL, it really helps his channel.

 

[Windom Earle]

In fact it's pretty obvious that the entire Epstein island operation was a Mossad honeypot op and Trump is nothing but an obedient, blackmailed pedo so ignoring that makes you even that more interesting. And by interesting I mean fucking dumb

Careful, don't bring too much truth to the MAGAtards in this thread.

 

[Darius87]

Wildly inaccurate, both the story and the missiles.

Stop being such a gullable 'X' drone.

that's true story, nothing inaccurate.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

…Europe…is going to come to our rescue in the pacific theater?

Hopefully EU will not help, but I bet the US will ask again like with afghanistan.

'Ignoring EU' but actively using bases in Europe to bomb these countries.

Then say EU is becoming a islamic shithole(it is) when the people from those countries run here after getting their countries bombed by the US.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

I don't think most Americans voted in favour of starting another war for Israel. Presidents may change, but some things never do. Destroying a school full of children is condemnable, regardless of whether it was the Russians or the so-called 'good side' represented by US / Israelis. Funny enough, the former prime minister of my country, Leszek Miller, said that he once talked with Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him privately who controls whom. Netanyahu made it clear that Israel controls the USA. That's why the USA's military power is used to defend Israeli interests for the expense of American people.

 

[Ipsi]

Strike earlier this morning killed many civilians

 

[Warspite]

Strike earlier this morning killed many civilians

But just above you tells me the Israelis are on the beach having fun!

 

[Dr.D00p]

that's true story, nothing inaccurate.

The UK Defence Secretary has said that Cyprus was not the target.

Guess which country lies on the flightpath to Cyprus...Israel.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

It's interesting ... normally progressives have been careful to only criticize Israel by flipping it's relation to the US, saying that they are actually a US proxy in the middle east and that if Israel 'didn't exist, the US would have to create it" and what have you, so as to not draw in accusations of various 'isms', but lately I see more and more of these guys acknowledging that in actuality it's a case of the tail wagging the dog around

They are just being hypocrites. Switching positions all the time. Grifters.

 

[Ipsi]