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Monitoring the situation in Iran



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The U.S. Army has abruptly canceled a major training exercise for the Headquarters Element of 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, fueling speculation within the Defense Department that soldiers specializing in ground combat and a range of other missions may be sent to the Middle East to join the war against Iran, sources tell the Washington Post.

The 82nd Airborne operates a Brigade Combat Team, consisting of several thousand soldiers, which alongside elements of the U.S. Air Force are kept on high alert allowing them to undertake an airborne deployment on 18 hours notice with no prior warning, for missions as varied as seizing airfields and other critical infrastructure to evacuations, known more commonly as the Immediate Response Force (IRF)."
 
This is insane. Netanyahu must have dirt on Trump to engage in this unnecessary war that could escalate to World War 3, completely wiping out human civilization.

People talk about some Supreme artificial intelligence removing humanity, but in the end it's always going to be us exterminating ourselves due to hubris and ignorance.
 
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As much as I too hate the Iranian regime, a ground invasion is going to be an absolute disaster. Even worse than Iraq and Afghanistan probably cause not only is Iran bigger with more population, but also because drones have made infantry warfare an absolute slog and hell (ask Russia and Ukraine) and on top of it, this time Russia also has an incentive to get US bogged down in a nightmare and will try to help Iran with intelligence and drones, if nothing else.

This is insane. Netanyahu must have dirt on Trump to engage in this unnecessary war that could escalate to World War 3, completely wiping out human civilization.

People talk about some Supreme artificial intelligence removing humanity, but in the end it's always going to be us exterminating ourselves due to hubris and ignorance.
 
Also - stop being dense, you know very well aggressive Jewish colonization of disputed territories is fuelled by religious fanatism.

These "disputed territories" you refer to are territorial losses that Egypt, Jordan, and Syria incurred after teamed up to jointly attack Israel in 1967.

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This is insane. Netanyahu must have dirt on Trump to engage in this unnecessary war that could escalate to World War 3, completely wiping out human civilization.

People talk about some Supreme artificial intelligence removing humanity, but in the end it's always going to be us exterminating ourselves due to hubris and ignorance.


Netanyahu having dirt on people associated with the Epstein Mossad op? Nah, no way!
 
As much as I too hate the Iranian regime, a ground invasion is going to be an absolute disaster. Even worse than Iraq and Afghanistan probably cause not only is Iran bigger with more population, but also because drones have made infantry warfare an absolute slog and hell (ask Russia and Ukraine) and on top of it, this time Russia also has an incentive to get US bogged down in a nightmare and will try to help Iran with intelligence and drones, if nothing else.
Isn't Iran also surrounded by mountainous terrain?

I am 100% opposed to this conflict. I remember Operation Iraqi Freedom very well, and the talking points to promote this war, mirror the same bullshit W. Administration spewed about that one. But at least they spend almost a year attempting to galvanize public support, not just dropping bombs and then making some poor attempt to explain all of this.

The U.S./Israel have already bombed one elementary school killing over 100 children and now I hear they have bombed 13 hospitals or Healthcare facilities. That definitely fits Israel MO, considering they did the same in Gaza and Lebanon.
 
No of course not. But all support for NATO will evaporate. If we are not in NATO why not ally with Russia against China? If we are allies with Russia why not sell them F-35s?

Russia would never ally with the U.S. against China.

The fact that there are now millions of Americans who genuinely don't understand that Russia sees the U.S. as an enemy nation is always baffling to me.

Par for the course - because the US was giving Ukraine intel to target Russians.




It's not like Ukraine has their own spy satellites hanging above Russia.


Yes. Par for the course.

But let's not handwave away the fact that there have been lots of folks fooled into the "Russia just wants to be friends with us" narrative.
 
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Good luck asking for an unconditional surrender (after less than a week of bombing) from a country that fought a ten year war with hundreds of thousands of people killed and didn't give up.

No one, including and especially his followers, takes everything DJT says literally at face value. We've been desensitized to not even bother scrutinizing it. It provides the necessary dose of emotional high, as for its veracity "lol he didn't mean it THAT way"...but it could, if they needed it to.

He got so used to this arrangement, that he could not understand the public backlash after he shot from the hip on certain controversial events this year. It's like that's how he found out there actually is a limit, and you can't get away with saying anything, no matter what. He was totally blindsided and confused by it.
 
No one, including and especially his followers, takes everything DJT says literally at face value. We've been desensitized to not even bother scrutinizing it. It provides the necessary dose of emotional high, as for its veracity "lol he didn't mean it THAT way"...but it could, if they needed it to.

He got so used to this arrangement, that he could not understand the public backlash after he shot from the hip on certain controversial events this year. It's like that's how he found out there actually is a limit, and you can't get away with saying anything, no matter what. He was totally blindsided and confused by it.
Yeah, the most scrutinized man in the world for the past 10+ years was totally shocked and confused he received more scrutiny.

We don't have anything figured out like we all think we do.
 
Yeah, the most scrutinized man in the world for the past 10+ years was totally shocked and confused he received more scrutiny.

We don't have anything figured out like we all think we do.

Actually, he was. He expressed his frustration outwardly and directly, unable to understand it, or what to do about it. "I wish someone would tell me what the hell is going on in the minds of the public". Because he thinks everyone should be easily malleable to manipulate, ie "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, it's, like, incredible." This is his world view/mind set.

To him, his cabinet are all fall guys to discard for following his orders, but for HIM to slip up and take accountability for failing? It broke his software.
 
Actually, he was. He expressed his frustration outwardly and directly, unable to understand it, or what to do about it. "I wish someone would tell me what the hell is going on in the minds of the public". Because he thinks everyone should be easily malleable to manipulate, ie "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, it's, like, incredible." This is his world view/mind set.

To him, his cabinet are all fall guys to discard for following his orders, but for HIM to slip up and take accountability for failing? It broke his software.
I think you're falling for an act, personally. We all are.
 
At least it's accurate.

Gas prices have climbed 74 cents already in my area compared to last week. I wouldn't be shocked it if goes over $4.00 dollars a gallon in the next two weeks.
We've been paying 4.89 in California even without the war welcome to the club lol. Although that has to with high taxes and refineries leaving.
 
Seems like a bunch of leftist accounts are invading the thread. Reminds me of the October 7th with Hamas apologists, believing Gaza Health Ministry. I guess with CNN being in Iran, now we will have pro Iranian propaganda everywhere - like it happened with BBC and Gaza.
I'm sure it'll be investigated, but I have little or no faith in anyone actually being held accountable for the decision.
Accountable for what? People die in war unless you believe that they were deliberately was targetting school. Like: "This is school - let's bomb it".

March 5 (Reuters) - U.S. military investigators believe it is likely that U.S. forces were responsible for an apparent strike on an Iranian girls' school that killed scores of children on Saturday but have not ‌yet reached a final conclusion or completed their investigation, two U.S. officials told Reuters.
This investigation reminds me of the school bombing in Gaza investigation. Media seems to have more interest in Iranian victims than even american ones on the american soil :messenger_tears_of_joy: I guess it will be used as an angle to attack Hegseth in an attempt to remove him.

Good luck asking for an unconditional surrender (after less than a week of bombing) from a country that fought a ten year war with hundreds of thousands of people killed and didn't give up.
None of the previous wars had all their leadership (including ayatollah) and command chains decimated, eradicated together with launchers for missiles + bombings of all the military infrastructure. Iran-Iraq war, for example, similar to Ukraine-Russia war. Though in case of Iran-Iraq, at least the iranian side wanted to get rid of the revolutionaires post 1979.
 
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lol this always happens, people wanna discuss until you start making too much sense. Then it shifts to "oh they're all the same" and more whataboutism
What are you trying to discuss? It's always this guy vs that guy, my team vs your team, etc. etc..

How about we focus on 'The Situation in Iran' and not partisan oneupmanship, yeah?

Is that too much to fucking ask in these threads? As far as I'm concerned, there is always an agenda when people want to display their pseudo-intellectualism breakdowns on either side of the partisan or ideological isle.
 
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What are you trying to discuss? It's always this guy vs that guy, my team vs your team, etc. etc..

How about we focus on 'The Situation in Iran' and not partisan oneupmanship, yeah?

Is that too much to fucking ask in these threads?

My comment was in reply to DJT expecting UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER and not a random anti-trump tirade.

You made it about partisan upsmanship from there, until it wasn't fun anymore.
 


It was within visual range using a Sidewinder, so the FA-18 had to lock fire, lock fire, lock fire to shoot down 3 targets.
Almost impossible that it wasn't deliberate
 
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My comment was in reply to DJT expecting UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER and not a random anti-trump tirade.

You made it about partisan upsmanship from there, until it wasn't fun anymore.
Yet it went down the rabbit hole of "yes men" and his psychological and emotional makeup.

I called them all out, and you respond with "whataboutism" but "i'm the partisan one" :rolleyes:

You're not fooling anyone.
 
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It was within visual range using a Sidewinder, so the FA-18 has to lock fire, lock fire, lock fire.
Almost impossible that it wasn't deliberate

Don't underestimate arab incompetence.


From the looks of it, I guess by the next week the only remaining thing will be the remaining ground forces. There are no systematic launches anymore, various rumours are swirling about ground invasion from Azerbaijan, special forces of Israel seems to do some targeted operations and the planes are flying around Afghanistan meaning that the air force is able to cross the whole Iran.

Just remember Iran has been at war with the US for a long time.


According to media and democrats, Iran is a victim though.
 
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Yet it went down the rabbit hole of "yes men" and his psychological and emotional makeup.

I called them all out, and you respond with "whataboutism" but "i'm the partisan one" :rolleyes:

You're not fooling anyone.

Right, because you challenged my assertion, and DJT's reactions and past comments supported my assertion.

You edited in the "called them all out" part, not sure what you are talking about, unless you just mean "oh, they're all acting". I had to re-read because it didn't even register to me really lol. Yes, "whataboutism" is the correct call for that?
 
Iran Rejects Cease-Fire Negotiations, Says Ready for U.S. Ground Invasion

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Iran is prepared for a possible ground invasion by U.S. troops, the country's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Thursday, as the war launched by the U.S. and Israel continues to escalate.

Araghchi told NBC News that Iran is ready to counter American forces after U.S. President Donald Trump refused to rule out the possibility of boots on the ground earlier this week.

"We are waiting for them," Araghchi said. "Because we are confident that we can confront them, and that would be a big disaster for them."


The U.S. and Israel jointly attacked Iran over the weekend, reportedly killing more than 1,000 civilians in bombings that appear to have also hit several schools. Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as well as dozens of Iranian officials were killed in the attacks. The military campaign, which is ongoing, prompted a wave of retaliatory strikes from Iran across the Middle East, reportedly hitting both U.S. military bases and civilian sites in Gulf states, killing dozens of people, including six U.S. service members.

The Trump Administration has signaled that the military campaign is likely to be more expansive than initially laid out. Trump told the Daily Mail on Sunday that the campaign could last around four weeks, even as the war appears to be unpopular with most Americans and as foreign citizens stranded in the Middle East scramble to leave the region. And U.S. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said during a Thursday briefing that "the amount of firepower over Iran and over Tehran is about to surge dramatically."

Araghchi also said that Iran has not asked for a cease-fire and is not interested in negotiating with the U.S., contradicting Trump's claims that Iranian leaders "want to talk." Iran's top security official Ali Larijani earlier this week posted on X: "We will not negotiate with the United States."

"We didn't ask for a cease-fire even last time," Araghchi said, referring to the 12-day war between Israel and Iran last June that was ended by a Trump-announced cease-fire. "It was Israel who asked for a cease-fire. They asked for an unconditional cease-fire after 12 days that we resisted against their aggression."


Iran's hardened position also reflects the fact that nuclear negotiations had in February been renewed—after previously being disrupted by last June's conflict, which included the bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities—and were ongoing prior to the U.S. and Israel's attack.

"The fact is that we don't have any positive experience of negotiating with the United States. You know, especially with this administration. We negotiated twice last year and this year, and then in the middle of negotiations, they attacked us," Araghchi said. "So we see no reason why we should engage once again with those who have, who are not honest in negotiation, and they don't and do not enter into negotiation in good faith."
 
Yet it went down the rabbit hole of "yes men" and his psychological and emotional makeup.

I called them all out, and you respond with "whataboutism" but "i'm the partisan one" :rolleyes:

You're not fooling anyone.

Are you still supporting this demented pedo who shits his diapers on national TV?

Even MTG, Nick Fuentas, and Candace Owens have abandoned ship. As oil prices climb and a recession hits, more will be joining.
 


It was within visual range using a Sidewinder, so the FA-18 has to lock fire, lock fire, lock fire.
Almost impossible that it wasn't deliberate

It was obviously deliberate - but likely because they thought they were attacking enemy F14s, whether an intelligence failure or a lack of training or both we will probably never know.
 
Right, because you challenged my assertion, and DJT's reactions and past comments supported my assertion.

You edited in the "called them all out" part, not sure what you are talking about, unless you just mean "oh, they're all acting". I had to re-read because it didn't even register to me really lol. Yes, "whataboutism" is the correct call for that?
All good, we're still bros.
 
What are you trying to discuss? It's always this guy vs that guy, my team vs your team, etc. etc..

How about we focus on 'The Situation in Iran' and not partisan oneupmanship, yeah?

Is that too much to fucking ask in these threads? As far as I'm concerned, there is always an agenda when people want to display their pseudo-intellectualism breakdowns on either side of the partisan or ideological isle.
Jesus Christ this is the most hypocritical post I've ever read on the internet.
 
I watched a video that talked about how the Spanish Civil War was a preview of World War II and was trying to draw some parallels that were unnerving. If things go real bad this could be a preview of WW triple.
 
they thought they were attacking enemy F14s...


"You'd be in air-to-air master mode and bring up the weapon using HOTAS ['hands on throttle and stick' controls]. You rock a castle switch that puts you in Sidewinder mode. From there, you can select your radar scan mode, again using HOTAS. Now you have a weapon looking for an infrared signature and a radar looking for a target. In a combat mode, the radar will latch/form a track almost immediately. The weapon system then cues the Sidewinder to the radar track, and so long as it's within the weapon's kinematic capabilities, you'll get a SHOOT cue. The weapon then leaves on trigger press."

"You can also just point and shoot with a Sidewinder, but then your radar isn't giving you any info, so you risk a shot that can't make it."

In such a scenario, it is conceivable that the F/A-18 pilot might have accidentally launched a missile that then found its target, the same pilot agreed, but that would not explain the three friendly-fire kills.

"Once, yes. Twice, no way. Thrice?""

edit: And probably the area would have at least a ground controlled radar, maybe an AWACS, tactical data link (everyone is "seeing" everyone), IFF (so you don't shoot the guys in your team)...
 
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