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Monitoring the situation in Iran
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Warspite
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Surely everyone seen that coming?
Darius87
Member
it's hard to know average, there were info that uae shot 400 pac3 in just 3 days assuming they don't used these on drones probably over 100 in a day for ballistics but not only uae intercepts, but it's far less now my guess.
calico
Member
Maybe they can just contribute a little back from the front lines?
Better than what?
Do you believe if the UK or France etc. had informed the US in recent months that they were willing to play an active role in the looming military action against Iran -if it happened- that they would have been told no? It seems unlikely to me. I bet even now they would not be told no.
No, this appears to be an optional side quest.
Yes, and to denude the IRGC of its military capability as much as can be achieved from a distance.
They are having their leadership, military and anything possibly of use to their nuclear ambitions blown to smithereens.
No Western nation needs to be so pathetic as to accept these mass invasions of their countries. It is a choice.
Stitch
Member
It's not even reddit, it's 4chan /pol/
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Well, they took a look at the situation with Iran and realized that there is no point in making any deal with Iran anymore considering how it is being dismantled.The end goal is MIGA apparently
Didn't UK try to cut off USA from 5 eyes intelligence sharing some time ago?
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BlackTron
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Is this supposed to be sarcastic? When we were attacked (9/11), allies sent forces who died in combat, not while sitting in AA batteries.
Now that we are an untrustworthy ally, yes. They are likely to "prove Trump right" by sitting back from the front, if they show at all.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Seems that way. Time to throw another another trillion dollars away in the pursuit of death instead of life.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
CNN's Nic Robertson is like the cool uncle you always bug about hearing his war stories but he always politely declines.
Then one night while you're both out together for a beer he finally relents and talks to you non-stop for 4 and a half hours.
You regret asking because you can't sleep for a week thinking of all the shit he's seen over the years.
Then one night while you're both out together for a beer he finally relents and talks to you non-stop for 4 and a half hours.
You regret asking because you can't sleep for a week thinking of all the shit he's seen over the years.
Windom Earle
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Northeastmonk
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Part of me can see future generations visiting this big utopia inside Iran, but then my head says "at what cost?". What's the price. In my mind Iran is up there with North Korea in terms of places I'd ever want to visit. Maybe that's why this is all happening. It feels like a bee hive than a country I'd want to visit. Maybe that's what's wrong. Again, what's the price to fix all that? MLK's teachings don't seem to work anymore.
DeepEnigma
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Smiggs
Member
I hope this is the reason she is a former staffer. At least, I hope so.
Senua
Member
Paid by who?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This has always been a holy war, for thousands of years.
They just dress it up in a secular wrapper.
They just dress it up in a secular wrapper.
calico
Member
A few NATO members incurred casualty rates comparable to the US. The vast majority did not and the non-US group collectively did not. Not even close. How was this achieved? Mostly by unwillingness at a national level to share the risk.
Who was this a false flag by?
Windom Earle
Member
Duh, if we knew it wouldn't be a false flag. You silly boy.
Iran sending it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If anything, Erdogan is pro Iran. And given that Israel hates Turkey AND Iran... Could be a classic case of "let your enemies fight".
But as I said, if it was a false flag from Israel, it wasn't a very good one. Do better.
BlackTron
Member
I already explained why other countries should not be expected to contribute as much in this arrangement, to which you implied almost agreement by then suggesting maybe they can do so then, from a safe distance; when I point out it was not a safe distance, we're back at how much they should be expected to risk, going in circles.
The fact that there were NATO countries at all with casualty rates like the US, while fighting our war, makes this kind of a joke. No one will do it for Ukraine, fighting an existential threat. While we tick ally checkboxes for the War on Terror™ level. That is actually how loyal they were, before we started treating them like garbage!
The end goal is MIGA apparently
If you're going to talk about UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, then you'd better be prepared to go the "full FDR" at least in some form or fashion.
Otherwise, if the enemy visibly stands firm and doesn't unconditionally surrender...you're going to risk looking like a clown. I sure hope that doesn't happen.
For the record, I think the single worst part of this whole operation so far has been the attack on the school. Many other things can be explained, but not that.
There's no way to justify this. I'm sure it'll be investigated, but I have little or no faith in anyone actually being held accountable for the decision.
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Forsete
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BlackTron
Member
I guess no matter how deep you dig, someone can always make enough fighter jets. 50 for one target...holy crap man
Wildebeest
Member
Also known as Epstein's personal propaganda channel.It's not even reddit, it's 4chan /pol/
Dammit, that's where the rest of the unredacted Epstein files were being stored, was juuuuuust about to release them, if it wasn't for those darn ruskies!
FullMetalx117
Member
With all the fake news and misinformation or lack of information swirling around the best indicator is oil price. Another 8% up today
BlackTron
Member
The school was adjacent to military targets. It's almost like they do it on purpose!
If we were to become a fascist nation, and foreign heroes came to save us, some "good guys" who wanted liberation would get caught in the crossfire. And of course, the "bad guys" will use those events, which they encourage, as propaganda for who the bad one really is, why they must clamp down further.
reinking
Gold Member
Miga Please.The end goal is MIGA apparently
Wildebeest
Member
It's easier to watch the price of oil but the price of natural gas is going to be the real pain point for a lot of people.
efyu_lemonardo
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I think you'd be a bit less stressed if you didn't take every tweet or press conference so literally, and also if you adopted a more patient approach to dealing with crisis.Seems that way. Time to throw another another trillion dollars away in the pursuit of death instead of life.
Talk is cheap. Let Trump say whatever he wants. When it comes to actions he's not done anything to suggest he's interested in involving the U.S. in prolonged wars, unlike his predecessors.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm not stressed, but that sounds like copium to me.
I am letting him say whatever he wants.
He's not done anything except start a damn war, lol. Step back and listen to the mental gymnastics you have to tell yourself to justify this unneeded and expensive aggression.
efyu_lemonardo
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We've already established that we disagree on the necessity. That's fine. You're now making a projection about the cost and duration of this conflict as part of your argument against it. That's the part that's not.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Do you think firing missiles worth a cool million each at tinfoil Iranian drones is cheap?
Hari Seldon
Gold Member
Should shoot down their satellites then.
efyu_lemonardo
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I think you're literally trying to be angry.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm going to be honest with you - I'm not using verbiage or sentence structure or punctuation that would suggest an angry tone, so you shouldn't read it like that in your internal reading voice.
Your response avoided the question I asked. Do you think that is cheap?
efyu_lemonardo
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I think it's a bizarre question, frankly.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's quite reasonable. What makes it bizarre to you?
Critical Hit
Member
Russia's intel sucks ass. I doubt they have anything the Iranians didn't already know. China is a different story, though.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Par for the course - because the US was giving Ukraine intel to target Russians.
US to give Ukraine intelligence on long-range energy targets in Russia, say reports
Decision would signal a significant shift in White House support for Kyiv as Trump grows irritated with Putin
www.theguardian.com
U.S. intel helped Ukraine shoot down Russian plane carrying troops
Ukrainian forces have used specific coordinates shared by the U.S. to direct fire on Russian positions and aircraft, current and former officials tell NBC News.
www.nbcnews.com
It's not like Ukraine has their own spy satellites hanging above Russia.
LordCBH
Gold Member
Jumped up another 10 cents by my house this morning. Another jump and it'll be solidly over $3. It was $2.30 three days ago.
efyu_lemonardo
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Perhaps you should try explaining to yourself the line of thinking between whatever you think the answer should be, and your conclusion that this will be a prolonged and expensive war.
From where I'm sitting that line looks full of holes far bigger than whether a particular tactical decision is financially optimal, given endless constraints neither of us is aware of.
LimanimaPT
Member
I just can't believe ghe White House posted that video. Who's running America? A bunch of teenagers? If I was American I would be ashamed.
Trump and bibi are playing with fire and our lives. I'm getting really worried with the path this war may follow and becomes into WW3. Oil is that important.
Trump and bibi are playing with fire and our lives. I'm getting really worried with the path this war may follow and becomes into WW3. Oil is that important.
BlackTron
Member
Yep, I should have refilled when I got down to half three days ago! Whoops!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Asking me what I think about it instead of answering my one simple question is not the response I'm looking for.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I'm not. Beats male's with breast implants flashing them on the WH lawn.
And Iran hasn't been for over 50 years? We should wait for the death cult of Iran to set off the 11 nukes they claimed they could easily build first.
Their words, not mine.
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Jaybe
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Betrayal of the highest order.
How can a fren act like this?
Such a waste of a good red carpet in retrospect
Dude 2.30 for gas....that sounds like a pipe dream. Sigh our homebrewed gas tax I imagine is $2.30 alone..
efyu_lemonardo
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I understand that. To me it looks like you're just trying to extend this argument. And I think doing so will not lead to a productive outcome for either of us unless you make a better case for yourself upfront.
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