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[GymWolf]

Smoke shadows FTW!

 

[Stafford]

So they are gonna have another deep dive of the pro version when pisser 2 release?

What is the point of analizing the game now that it looks worse than the final version? Nobody with a pro and an internet connection is ever gonna play this version...

Da fuck. This is without Pisser 2? I had no idea. That's even crazier.

 

[GymWolf]

Of course. I was just waiting for the PS5 version first since the devs had famously said that they were sending their copies to Digital Foundry and would let them reveal the console versions. Turns out the first video is the Pro version which was already shown last year in the release date trailer.

I'm more perplexed by the choice of reviewing a version that nobody is gonna ever play or see because pisser2 release when the game release...

 

[Kacho]

"What about it?"

 

[TheAnt]

lol DF falling for it again. PS5 Pro? A console with barely a few million sales? Literally a 120 million people want to know how it runs on their machines. DF gets the codes early and decides to do a puff piece on the game instead. Typical.

Do they cover the base PS5 version performance?

I know, right?

Apparently they got a PS5 pro with the game installed or something. So then Pearl Abyss decided to wait a bit more until showing the footage on a plastic toy where the game will possibly sell the most, and definitely run the worst :')

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[ChiefDada]

Sorry but I don't think the game looks that good. They say RT is implemented but world lighting and interiors especially tend to have that glowing video-gamey look we've come to expect from rasterized games. And the shadows dont look too great either.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Lighting is really impressive !

 

[Kacho]

What is the point of analizing the game now that it looks worse than the final version? Nobody with a pro and an internet connection is ever gonna play this version...

It's marketing

 

[yogaflame]

 

[adamsapple]

er .. how do they 'only have a PS5 Pro with the game installed' .. did the publisher send them a pre-installed console?

If they were given keys, can't they just switch the same account that redeemed the key to a base PS5 to test ?

the justification is weird, lol. Unless the publisher specifically asked them to hold back on PS5/Series coverage.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Ridiculous rationale.

 

[Moonjt9]

Well this just sold me on getting the game day 1. Pssr2 will make this godly. What a great looking game. Korean devs are really showing some amazing work these days.

 

[Dr Bass]

I just got back in the Sony game with a ps5 pro so I'm ready for whatever they can throw at me.

 

[Zacfoldor]

V-Sync off mode with Performance mode

 

[GymWolf]

It's marketing

Marketing a worse version that no one is ever gonna see or try sound a bit strange but ok.

 

[Kacho]

Marketing a worse version that no one is ever gonna see or try sound a bit strange but ok.

It's showing the game in a good way before launch. DF is getting paid to glaze. Part of the game.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Don't care, show me what it does on base PS5

 

[SlimySnake]

It's the only version they had access to.

?? PS5 pro version does not have its own SDK on the store. They can run the same version, either digital or physical on the base PS5. Lets face it, this directive came straight from pearl abyss. i refuse to believe John doesnt have a base PS5. he's just not allowed to show it yet.

 

[Bojji]

?? PS5 pro version does not have its own SDK on the store. They can run the same version, either digital or physical on the base PS5. Lets face it, this directive came straight from pearl abyss. i refuse to believe John doesnt have a base PS5. he's just not allowed to show it yet.

I think they had whole PS5 Pro console with game installed (shipped by devs?).

 

[Steve Holt]

certainly for PS5 Pro owners, Crimson Desert delivers a phenomenal experience.

 

[kevboard]

er .. how do they 'only have a PS5 Pro with the game installed' .. did the publisher send them a pre-installed console?

If they were given keys, can't they just switch the same account that redeemed the key to a base PS5 to test ?

the justification is weird, lol. Unless the publisher specifically asked them to hold back on PS5/Series coverage.

developers can lock review codes to specific consoles.

they talked about that with their RE9 tests. Capcom locked review codes to single systems so they ran into scheduling issues where one person had to record footage for others in the team because their console couldn't boot the game.

so I assume they only greenlit one system at first, and that system was his PS5 Pro

 

[Zathalus]

?? PS5 pro version does not have its own SDK on the store. They can run the same version, either digital or physical on the base PS5. Lets face it, this directive came straight from pearl abyss. i refuse to believe John doesnt have a base PS5. he's just not allowed to show it yet.

Directly from the article:

Pearl Abyss was confident enough to hand-deliver PlayStation 5 Pro with a near-final version of the game - and we are not disappointed.

 

[GymWolf]

It's showing the game in a good way before launch. DF is getting paid to glaze. Part of the game.

Some of the flaws they listed could be solved by pisser 2 and make the game look even better but ok.

I just chuckle at the concept of "deep dive" for something that is not even in its final form...

 

[Brucey]

Haven't watched yet but I don't believe what I'm gonna see

Im getting in a tub of milk in preparation.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

As with most John videos, 90% is waxing poetics about the game and he only spends 2~ minutes talking about the actual performance stats and only covers water reflections distance between the Optimal and Quality mode.

Supposedly the game has "Ultra" RT on Quality vs other modes but he doesn't mention any difference in RT coverage at all.

he did mention in 7:09

 

[Bojji]

 

[adamsapple]

Directly from the article:

Wow, back to the days of Nintendo demo units literally tied down to a person, lol

 

[saintjules]

Do they cover the base PS5 version performance?

At some point later for the peasants less fortunate.

 

[Gonzito]

Lol ridiculous. And John's attitude is so stupid, what a douchebag

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Hold on I thought they were given access to all platform versions or am I tripping?

 

[SlimySnake]

Directly from the article:

Wow. So they told the fans that they are not releasing the footage because they are sending it to DF for the sake of full transparency, and sent them only the Pro version? Yeesh.

 

[adamsapple]

Wow. So they told the fans that they are not releasing the footage because they are sending it to DF for the sake of full transparency, and sent them only the Pro version? Yeesh.

I'm getting some real weird cyberpunk 2027 PS4/XBO vibes. Hopefully it's just an unwarranted feeling.

 

[ThroatPie]

haven't been this excited for a game since DD2 and Elden Ring. Can't wait to see what PSSR2 can do for this game. Looks amazing as is

 

[GymWolf]

(But i really only like the middle pic)

 

[Fess]

What is the point of analizing the game now that it looks worse than the final version? Nobody with a pro and an internet connection is ever gonna play this version...

What is the point of critics reviewing and rating a game before launch when all games have a day 1 patch and are patched for months?
Nobody is going to play that version.

It's marketing, pro media are all sitting in the lap of publishers, and they want clicks for ad money.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Good Lord, that's enough Gaf for me today.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sorry but I don't think the game looks that good. They say RT is implemented but world lighting and interiors especially tend to have that glowing video-gamey look we've come to expect from rasterized games.

Lighting is really impressive !

 

[Gaiff]

Sorry but I don't think the game looks that good. They say RT is implemented but world lighting and interiors especially tend to have that glowing video-gamey look we've come to expect from rasterized games. And the shadows dont look too great either.

 

[saintjules]

Still watching, but it's impressive that it's only using PSSR1. Cannot imagine how it will perform under v2.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Works for me

Bout it Bout it

Already pre ordered

 

[Abysse]

It's just surreal. I haven't seen anything of this magnitude in years.

 

[Kilau]

This game looks how I remember Oblivion looking at launch, hope it's great.

 

[Bojji]

PSSR2 will clean this very nicely.

 

[Markio128]

Okay, I'm a believer. The game looks nuts. It would be sacrilege to not buy this as a Pro owner. However, I do hope PSSR 2 can clear up some of the visual flaws, and perhaps assist with the frame-rate in performance mode. Saying that, this could be improved in a day 1 patch anyway.

Things that impressed me the most visually were the smoke shadows, general lighting, water effects and the draw distance.

But yeah, it looks vast and stacked with fantastical places to explore.

 

[saintjules]

 

[Team Skoda]

What a smug bitch reply from dark1x. Muthafucka, why would I watch a PS5 Pro one when I don't have a PS5 Pro?

 

[Putonahappyface]

I want to see it run on PSSR 2.0!

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

wtf...this is without PSSR2!

 

[Last Hearth]

er .. how do they 'only have a PS5 Pro with the game installed' .. did the publisher send them a pre-installed console?

If they were given keys, can't they just switch the same account that redeemed the key to a base PS5 to test ?

the justification is weird, lol. Unless the publisher specifically asked them to hold back on PS5/Series coverage.

I bet that's exactly what happened, they shipped a pre-installed PS5Pro to DF.