SKYF@ll
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While PSSR1 had a processing time of 2ms, rumors suggest PSSR2 will be 1.2-1.4ms, so there's a possibility of improved performance.
It would be great if PSSR2 were more efficient.
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Crimson Desert on PlayStation 5 Pro - The Digital Foundry Deep Dive
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It would be great if PSSR2 were more efficient.
viveks86
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Now that I'm seeing the performance, Balanced mode does make sense on the pro. But I don't plan to upgrade my TV till the PS6 :/
If it's CPU bound, it won't make a difference.
While PSSR1 had a processing time of 2ms, rumors suggest PSSR2 will be 1.2-1.4ms, so there's a possibility of improved performance.
It would be great if PSSR2 were more efficient.
If it's CPU bound, it won't make a difference.
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hououinkyouma00
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I'll be interested to see everything again when PSSR 2.0 is actually in the game.
IF I end up playing the game I'll likely play on the 40fps 120hz mode. John said the game had a heavy feel anyways and felt that way even on PC at higher then 60fps so I think the 40fps mode will be nice.
IF I end up playing the game I'll likely play on the 40fps 120hz mode. John said the game had a heavy feel anyways and felt that way even on PC at higher then 60fps so I think the 40fps mode will be nice.
cripterion
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The footage looks bad to me. But I consider the game scale. Honestly it's like Dragon Dogma 2 which is what I wanted.
No Pawn system but you can bring some companions with you so hopefully they have some chatter/banter while they tag along.
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Variahunter
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The image with the dragon, despite being in the DF video, is not on PS5 Pro.
It's from an old trailer on PC. The HUD is not the same in the launch build.
Variahunter
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What cubes in the background are you talking about ?Ngl this pic just looks bad to me lol like wtf is this art direction.
It looks like things haven't loaded in properly too and the cubes in the background look like dead pixels
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Stuart360
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I mean that screeen looks a lot like an asset flip on Steam.Ngl this pic just looks bad to me lol like wtf is this art direction.
It looks like things haven't loaded in properly too and the cubes in the background look like dead pixels
Overall though i think the game looks very good, although i feel people are overhyping the graphics a bit.
cripterion
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The footage at 40 fps under the rain looked awful, like it was running at 720p for some reason.
It's a mix bag, some shots are incredible and look clean while others look really low res, fuzzy. And I know that look cause it was like that in Black Desert as well.
Just need the game in my hands, the moment to moment gameplay definitely will make up for the technical shortcomings and still I think it's incredible feat to pull off on console.
Also this bodes well for big daddy GTA at the end of the year.
It's a mix bag, some shots are incredible and look clean while others look really low res, fuzzy. And I know that look cause it was like that in Black Desert as well.
Just need the game in my hands, the moment to moment gameplay definitely will make up for the technical shortcomings and still I think it's incredible feat to pull off on console.
Also this bodes well for big daddy GTA at the end of the year.
Variahunter
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Horizon has so much fog... They've built their open world as a funneled experience, and even like that there is so much fog... no wonder you have those graphics close to you when there's close to nothing intensive to render at the distance. And almost no interactivity in this world.
Not to mention the baked lighting compared to dynamic RT which is very intensive...
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luca_29_bg
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Someone knows if the camera can be put closer to the main character ?
Inviusx
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Hmm, so it's 60fps when you're not really doing anything but dips when you start getting multiple NPCs on screen and get into combat.
Based on all of the other footage we've seen, this game is all about lots of NPCs and crazy particle heavy combat.
I feel like this isnt looking great at the moment for the Performance mode. This coverage from DF was actually pretty poor.
Based on all of the other footage we've seen, this game is all about lots of NPCs and crazy particle heavy combat.
I feel like this isnt looking great at the moment for the Performance mode. This coverage from DF was actually pretty poor.
Amish Prince
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Yes it can be zoomed multiple times. You can even explore and walk around in first person if you want.(no combat in first person though)
RaZoR No1
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On PC
LyricalShrike
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It amazes how many people don't realize they post text articles for these videos as well:
Crimson Desert on PS5 Pro: This Is How Good It Looks And How Well It Runs
Near-final code is in impressive shape.www.digitalfoundry.net
I don't follow YouTube and I've never seen anybody share the actual article. I wish article was shared more since it's so much easier to read a review than sit through 30 minutes.
Orbital2060
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Itchy Tickles
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So I watched other videos yesterday from random people who went to an event to play it for like 6 hours and I swear it's like they are afraid to fully commit to their criticism.
They played for 4 hours from a fresh save and the ones I watched said the same things. Controls were overly convoluted and awkward, game is super slow, puzzles don't make sense, quests not only don't always specify what they want, but they also can change what is required without notifying the player, the platforming can be tedious (1 part had them waiting for over a minute for a floating rock to do its route and then we're faced immediately by a second) and other smaller stuff too.
Some parts had one of the floor staff jump in and tell the player what to do necause they were stuck and in 1 instance even that staff member needed help from another person.
These are the types of thing I was worried about from trailers. I think I will pass on this game.
They played for 4 hours from a fresh save and the ones I watched said the same things. Controls were overly convoluted and awkward, game is super slow, puzzles don't make sense, quests not only don't always specify what they want, but they also can change what is required without notifying the player, the platforming can be tedious (1 part had them waiting for over a minute for a floating rock to do its route and then we're faced immediately by a second) and other smaller stuff too.
Some parts had one of the floor staff jump in and tell the player what to do necause they were stuck and in 1 instance even that staff member needed help from another person.
These are the types of thing I was worried about from trailers. I think I will pass on this game.
Stuart360
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Yep, and knowing what reviewers are like, i wouldnt be surprised to see a MC in the 70's for this.
Still getting it though.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just saw that. This game is doing to sell millions in the first week alone. Maybe even wukong numbers if not Elden rings.
JusticeForAll
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People being angry that Digital Foundry released the PS5 Pro analysis first forget that they are a business too. They want a many views as possible and spreading it out like this, helps.
RainyNguyen
Member
It will sell millions of copies, but it definitely wont reach the numbers of Wukong. You probably don't realize how insanely hyped Wukong is in China and other Asian countries. Only a game from R* could break Wukong's record.
Viking Warrior
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VRR only kicks in on the PS5/Pro at 48 FPS,anything below 48 will have screen tearing which means the quality and balanced mode can not use VRR at all,PSSR 2.0 will not fix this problem at all.
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They can implement LFC on release, the game don't have even PSSR2, we don't know what they are working for patch day 1. Although this video is the example why they didn't want sent the keys or why the physical game don't have the full game, base version has to be really bad state until patch 1
Radical_3d
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Very impressive showing but this 4K 60 video means nothing with the old PSSR. We need another one with the updated version. I understand why Pearl Abyss only send the most powerful console to review first for marketing purposes, but sending the base console build that is not going to modify the upscaler method would give us a better idea of the quality of the final product. Still a very good feature review by John.
StueyDuck
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Marketing...
The marketing for this game is huge, one of the biggest campaigns ive seen online for a game in a while
Radical_3d
Member
Art direction?Ngl this pic just looks bad to me lol like wtf is this art direction.
It looks like things haven't loaded in properly too and the cubes in the background look like dead pixels
Non Japanese developers:
There was a lot of noise about no footage of console versions of the game and how they're avoiding showing it. They released this to calm those people down. Things will only get better with the PSSR2 patch.
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Bojji
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And PS6.
Art direction?
Non Japanese developers:
Art directions in Japanese games:
Radical_3d
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I'll take it a hundred times over the generic shite the rest of Asia is doing.Art directions in Japanese games:
Out of curiosity, which avatar you don't want?
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midnightAI
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Who cares when the end result looks better? We are talking about a five year old game here with Forbidden West. And this the problem using RT on current consoles (even Pro), it is resource intensive but if you can get similar results without it which gives you loads more overhead for other stuff then why use it other than for DF to soil their trousers over it.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The point, for the game dev and publisher, is to flex by putting their game under the microscope without even the day 1 patch (unless that breaks the game
) and come out with praise. This is a really good way to hype it.
Prodyhig
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I've been reading about the base PlayStation 5 since yesterday... and they keep repeating the same thing about them not showing anything...
Why doesn't the idea of waiting to buy a game cross some people's minds?
If I had a base PlayStation 5, I would wait to see the graphics, analyze whether it falls within my acceptable visual parameters, and then make the purchase. That would be the logical thing for an informed consumer to do.
Why doesn't the idea of waiting to buy a game cross some people's minds?
If I had a base PlayStation 5, I would wait to see the graphics, analyze whether it falls within my acceptable visual parameters, and then make the purchase. That would be the logical thing for an informed consumer to do.
GymWolf
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They could have flexed even more if they did the deep dive when pisser 2 was out but ok.The point, for the game dev and publisher, is to flex by putting their game under the microscope without even the day 1 patch (unless that breaks the game
I understand that df want to milk this bitch dry and pearl abyss is probably happy about it.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
This will drive preorders, even without the day one patch it looks quite awesome… big flex for a new contender.
Win win.
Plus custom engine (yes!) and a game that looks stellar and delivering on its promises on all platforms.
So win win again and none of the usual discussion… which just seems to try to snatch negativity from the jaws of victory.
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MrAlwaysRight
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on console, just not series S
Portugeezer
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I can only assume the publisher asked them to cover the worst selling PS5 SKU first, or it was what DF recommended first.
Either way it's annoying for the majority of PS5 owners. Like, talk the talk in terms of transparency, how people wouldn't believe them anyway... but then pull off some shit like this?
On top of that, no PSSR2 just makes a lot of this video pointless as there will need to be a follow up anyway... Just milking shit for views.
Bojji
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My boi Cerny (awesome guy BTW, I just don't know why some people treat him like god) as avatar is probably the biggest humiliation for me.
Schachtier
Member
I think the real interesting part will by an analysis with PSSR 2.0. But the first impression is very pleasing. Guess ill buy it für PS5, but Series X might be interesting as well, since the cpu is a little bit faster, so maybe the drops in demanding areas will be less visible?!
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TheRaidenPT
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I don't blame DF on this one, they got invited for the "PS5 Pro" showcase of the game. I'd say it's the devs/publisher that are to blame here.
I'll be buying this on the PC so I'm curious to see this plays out.
But honestly speaking if you are on base ps5 and care about framerate/resolutions it's time for you to upgrade to the Pro which is the system for you on the console side
I'll be buying this on the PC so I'm curious to see this plays out.
But honestly speaking if you are on base ps5 and care about framerate/resolutions it's time for you to upgrade to the Pro which is the system for you on the console side
GymWolf
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I don't really trust df at all, they call everything incredible for clicks, even stuff that i would call mid at best, i'm gonna wait to play the game on my pc to check if this engine is black magic or if it has clear drawbacks like the aggressive pop in we all noticed.This will drive preorders, even without the day one patch it looks quite awesome… big flex for a new contender.
Win win.
Plus custom engine (yes!) and a game that looks stellar and delivering on its promises on all platforms.
So win win again and none of the usual discussion… which just seems to try to snatch negativity from the jaws of victory.
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This is what I thought the PS3 Lair was going to be back then. That you can unmount your dragon and explore the world.
ShaiKhulud1989
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2018 called, yeahNgl this pic just looks bad to me lol like wtf is this art direction.
It looks like things haven't loaded in properly too and the cubes in the background look like dead pixels
