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[T4keD0wN]

I don't like to over stress my PC.

Just tell your PC to go to the doctor for some antidepressants.

 

[TintoConCasera]

We can all clearly see the Pro has an advantage in some areas and PC in others.

 

[Senua]

 

[GymWolf]

We just had Digital Foundry Season 15, Resident Evil Requiem. Season 16 is Crimson Desert. My favorite was probably Season 10 Cyberpunk 2077. Season 13 PSSR was also cool but a bit long.

Do i find everything on netflix or i need a paramount account aswell?

 

[mèx]

It's basically battaglia glazing ray reconstruction for 11 min and barely talking or showing the difference between i don't know, cinematic settings vs ultra or very high, you know what someone expect from a pc deep dive made by a professional channel, dude is more of a bag of tools than what xbox fanboys have been waiting since the launch of series X...

Just wait for the BenchmarKing video, it will be 10x better than whatever DF is going to put out in that regard. They've really fallen behind when it comes to optimized settings and showing comparisons for each setting.

 

[PeteBull]

Still undecided whether my 5090 or Pro will provide the superior experience. The minor visual bump probably isn't worth the trade of couch sitting

That minor difference is like the difference between ur goodlooking and ugly cousin, they kinda look similar but not really

 

[GymWolf]

Just wait for the BenchmarKing video, it will be 10x better than whatever DF is going to put out in that regard. They've really fallen behind when it comes to optimized settings and showing comparisons for each setting.

I remember when nvidia did this shit for their sponsored games in their site, it was glorious.

Tbf i have a strong pc so i usually take down a notch a couple of settings and boom, 4k60++ achieved for 99% of games.

 

[OverHeat]

Video made me buy! back log growing

 

[VeganElduderino]

Once again us 5080 peasants gonna have to chose between nextgen lighting and 60fps at decent enough IQ( 4k dlssed perfomance is 1080p internal res).
Under those settings game drops into 50s easily on 5080 which means we will have to go with ultra perf 4k dlss aka internal res of 720p- 1/9th of 4k native pixels compared to 1/4th with dlss perf which siginficantly degrades IQ even more
5090 master race wont experience that problem at all, hell maybe they can even play game on 4k dlss balanced, if only i spent 4k usd on my gpu...

us 5080 bros will be fine , there's a optimization video on the way!
its still going to be better than all consoles and most pcs

 

[Stuart360]

The thing is Alex is comparing the ray reconstruction vs the standard denoiser on PC with both comparisons using ultra or cinematic settings. I doubt the console version will even be using ultra settings as it is (notice how there seemed to be way less pop in compared to the Pro footage) , so the difference between the PC version with ray reconstruction compared to the console version will be even larger than you see in this vid.

The differnce arguably looks even wider than RE9 with path tracing vs the console versions.

 

[owandeseis]

Cinematic sounds like Experimental from KCD2, i remember the performance hit on Warhorse's game was huge, but the key was to run everything on ultra and then Experimental for lightning or shadows.

In this case i'd say it's probably the same, they showed it on ultra settings with a 7900xtx native at around 60 FPS, the play would be to use upscaler and use that extra performance gain on Ray Reconstruction.

Stuff like Cinematic/Experimental on most settings are a great addition for future proofing their games, not like people won't buy this game when next gen cards release.

 

[BennyBlanco]

That minor difference is like the difference between ur goodlooking and ugly cousin, they kinda look similar but not really

Bro was going for a hot girl analogy and immediately consulted his family tree

This thread is off to a great start

 

[T4keD0wN]

That minor difference is like the difference between ur goodlooking and ugly cousin, they kinda look similar but not really

 

[HRK69]

My 3070 won't like this one

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

I hope my RTX3090 wont explode.

 

[Gaiff]

That minor difference is like the difference between ur goodlooking and ugly cousin, they kinda look similar but not really

I thought you were Polish. When did you move to Alabama?

 

[PeteBull]

Bro was going for a hot girl analogy and immediately consulted his family tree

This thread is off to a great start

U know me too well, brah, i got so many posts deleted before that its only natural i try to evolve a bit to make it less controversial, walls have ears here, whiteknight simp walls

 

[GudOlRub]

We just had Digital Foundry Season 15, Resident Evil Requiem. Season 16 is Crimson Desert. My favorite was probably Season 10 Cyberpunk 2077. Season 13 PSSR was also cool but a bit long.

I personally like the GTA VI trailer spinoffs as well, pixel counting around tiddies is something else.

 

[mèx]

Damn, all that missing AO is back with RR...

Either the standard denoiser is extremely shitty or there is something wrong going on there.

Since when denoisers have the ability to erase AO out of existence? It looks like it's completely missing, weird.

 

[daninthemix]

Just wait for the BenchmarKing video, it will be 10x better than whatever DF is going to put out in that regard. They've really fallen behind when it comes to optimized settings and showing comparisons for each setting.

Yeah that dude is good for optimised settings.

 

[Abysse]

6GB of VRAM in use in Cinematic mode.

 

[Stuart360]

My 3070 won't like this one

I hope my RTX3090 wont explode.

I love posts like this.

The game is running on XSX and PS5 at assumingly decent framerates. Even 30fps on the S. I'm sure both of you will be more than fine. Even 8gb vram seems like it wont be a problem here.

 

[Signalis]

double post, sorry

You better be.

 

[PeteBull]

I thought you were Polish. When did you move to Alabama?

Having cousins of different beauty/handsomeness is phenomenon known across the globe
Btw Alabama is beautiful state, im sure

 

[HRK69]

I love posts like this.

The game is running on XSX and PS5 at assumingly decent framerates. Even 30fps on the S. I'm sure both of you will be more than fine. Even 8gb vram seems like it wont be a problem here.

That's what I wanted to hear

 

[Bojji]

>Buys 5090
>Can't see shit
>GPU with highest TDP
>Doesn't like heat

I thought you were Polish. When did you move to Alabama?

Or Pakistan/UK.

Either the standard denoiser is extremely shitty or there is something wrong going on there.

Since when denoisers have the ability to erase AO out of existence? It looks like it's completely missing, weird.

Yeah I wonder if this is intended. Ray reconstruction does not add AO generally. It's there or it's not.

I think that's because their RT is low quality, they have 1/16 or something rays per pixel (whatever that means lol). Standard denoiser is too cheap and low quality to reconstruct that properly, while RR (Nv) and RR (AMD) are able to use ML to help them with that.

 

[GymWolf]

That's what I wanted to hear

If you are in a pinch (testicular or metaphorical) you can use mods and apps to enable framegen on series 3000 cards.

 

[Insane Metal]

Goddamn this looks fucking amazing, I'll gladly eat crow.

 

[analog_future]

This game is going to be amazing, isn't it?

 

[Abysse]

This game is going to be amazing, isn't it?

 

[TintoConCasera]

You and GymWolf hyped the fuck out of me for this game. It better be good!

 

[The Cockatrice]

Useless video. No detailed info on all the other settings, no perfornnce, no optimized settings, no talks about anything other than RR. Fucking retarded. Also what happened with AO? Now all of a sudden we need raytracing and RR to cast it?

 

[M.W.]

This game is going to be amazing, isn't it?

It's a lock.

 

[Puscifer]

Viva el PC!!!

PAPITOS GET ITT!

 

[Sticks]

Once again us 5080 peasants gonna have to chose between nextgen lighting and 60fps at decent enough IQ( 4k dlssed perfomance is 1080p internal res).
Under those settings game drops into 50s easily on 5080 which means we will have to go with ultra perf 4k dlss aka internal res of 720p- 1/9th of 4k native pixels compared to 1/4th with dlss perf which siginficantly degrades IQ even more
5090 master race wont experience that problem at all, hell maybe they can even play game on 4k dlss balanced, if only i spent 4k usd on my gpu...

So I'm fucked with my 5070TI

 

[GudOlRub]

no talks about anything other than RR. Fucking retarded.

It's literally in the video's title, what did you expect?
Optimized settings video is coming at a later date.

 

[HRK69]

If you are in a pinch (testicular or metaphorical) you can use mods and apps to enable framegen on series 3000 cards.

Oh damn, I'll have to check that for next time. Thanks!

Naughty Jensen Huang, disabling this just to make me buy a new card. Bastard.

 

[MazingerDUDE]

fsr ray regeneration looks horrible, it basically mitigates AI upscaling

 

[DenchDeckard]

4090 chuds rise up

 

[Gaiff]

Useless video. No detailed info on all the other settings, no perfornnce, no optimized settings, no talks about anything other than RR. Fucking retarded. Also what happened with AO? Now all of a sudden we need raytracing and RR to cast it?

It's a pre-release build. Final version isn't out until next week.

 

[yamaci17]

Either the standard denoiser is extremely shitty or there is something wrong going on there.

Since when denoisers have the ability to erase AO out of existence? It looks like it's completely missing, weird.

finally a reasonable take on this thread. this is a really weird situation, it feels like enabling ray reconstruction enables hidden settings that are otherwise not enabled even with ultra preset

 

[Guardian Monkey]

So I'm fucked with my 5070TI

Seems close to re9 with pathtracing performance. If you were able to get that working well you should be fine here.

 

[Bojji]

So I'm fucked with my 5070TI

Drop that bitch from Cinematic to ultra and you are good to go.

 

[Stuart360]

finally a reasonable take on this thread. this is a really weird situation, it feels like enabling ray reconstruction enables hidden settings that are otherwise not enabled even with ultra preset

It says in the video that to help with optimization, the game uses a very low amount of rays for its RT. A low amount that the standard denoiser has trouble with. Ray reconstruction works so well it can render those low rays into basically what its suppoosed to look like.

Ray reconstruction always makes RT look better in the games i have tested, Cyberpunk for example.

 

[PeteBull]

So I'm fucked with my 5070TI

Just dont play it in 4k, im sure if u got smaller 24 or 27inch monitor 1440p dlss balanced will work just fine if its ur native monitor res.
It doesnt look right/proper pristine on 4k monitor tho so cant be helped, personally will always go for 4k output when possible, question is how much i can stretch dlss for stable 60 and max or close to max graphics settings
Only bad example i remember well - back then dlss3.something looked bad at places in ff16 and its expacks, artifacts on some edges were crazy distracting to me so i indeed had to make even bigger compromises when it came to IQ, mind u 95% of the game looked fine enough, but that 5% looked like those old days before we had proper antialiasing solutions- jadged edges and shimmering on top

 

[Pokedot]

Damn, all that missing AO is back with RR...

These modern game engines just gimp features that were standard with traditional rasterization methods and put it back in with more expensive methods like RR that tank performance.

 

[saintjules]

Somewhere Will Powers is laughing at people doubting PA. Rightfully so.

 

[Bojji]

These modern game engines just gimp features that were standard with traditional rasterization methods and put it back in with more expensive methods like RR that tank performance.

We don't know how it looks with standard SSAO. And in most games raster AO sucks donkey balls when it comes to foliage.

 

[Dorfdad]

Once again us 5080 peasants gonna have to chose between nextgen lighting and 60fps at decent enough IQ( 4k dlssed perfomance is 1080p internal res).
Under those settings game drops into 50s easily on 5080 which means we will have to go with ultra perf 4k dlss aka internal res of 720p- 1/9th of 4k native pixels compared to 1/4th with dlss perf which siginficantly degrades IQ even more
5090 master race wont experience that problem at all, hell maybe they can even play game on 4k dlss balanced, if only i spent 4k usd on my gpu...

Just get a steam machine when it releases

 

[roosnam1980]

fsr ray regeneration looks horrible, it basically mitigates AI upscaling

should look better at native res?