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[Fabieter]

You haven't noticed AMD pimping "neural rendering" at every opportunity when making these fsr and helix/sony marketing videos?

I did now. You are right they did so yeah its probably also onto the next gen Maschines to some extent.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Sure it's the same model that's why her lips are completely different!

it's all due to bad lightning. I understand now

You clearly don't.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is the kind of stupid shit people dumb enough will actually believe is true tho

They think oh it will make women look better and then suddenly champion DLSS 5.0

Unironically people are so dumb

Well, that's one facet of this drama.

Its not about making women look better, but make them not look ugly.

In other words: Negating the woke effect

 

[DeepEnigma]

ITS THE SAME FACE GUYS HURRDURR

DLSS5 adds lip fillers

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

cmon guys... i know a lot of you use dynamic tone mapping

some of you dirty birds even use dynamic picture mode

 

[yogaflame]

Glow up gen leftist and purple group will hate this.

 

[MMaRsu]

No wonder tons of wokesters are afraid, they should be

Glow up gen leftist and purple group will hate this.

If you really think the tech works like this u are retarded m8

This isn't made to 'beautify' female models you absolute goons

Better question is why are you? You have been on the attack all thread to multiple individuals. Its clearly the same model. If you aren't able to spot the differences and why they are there then I don't know what to tell you. The model is unaltered. As I posted to you from before this is directly from NVIDIA.

DLSS 5 takes a game's color and motion vectors for each frame as input, and uses an AI model to infuse the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame. DLSS 5 runs in real time at up to 4K resolution for smooth, interactive gameplay

"DLSS 5 is the GPT moment for graphics — blending hand-crafted rendering with generative AI"

From their own blog

You understand what generative AI is right? It's making shit up.

 

[Mr Moose]

Wating for a AI song about it

Virtual signalling bullshit.
KidSmooveBrain.

 

[Radical_3d]

Was Sony showing PSSR2 on several games and being praised for how much it improved, and NVidia announcing DLSS 5 in the same day and being laughed at, on anyone's bingo car?

It's certainly been a day.

 

[Esquie]

This is the biggest next-gen leap we've seen since the jump to 3D, but "AI slop" spamming NPCs are gonna force Nvidia to shelve it.

 

[PSFore]

It just modified an image of the actual face model and pasted it on. Capcom could have just done that in the first place.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

If you really think the tech works like this u are retarded m8




From their own blog

You understand what generative AI is right? It's making shit up.

The generative AI is applying the lighting to the materials. Do you not understand that? That's the difference you are seeing. LOL ffs

 

[Represent.]

Holy FUCKKKKK

Yeah, keep crying about Ai Slop.

Ai can give me that AI SLOPPY TOPPY

we have achieved fucking concept art quality visiuals in real time.

fuck you

the art looks the exact same, just fucking better. fuck off.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Is this going to be able to "remember" the last AI reconstruction? Or are characters going to look different every time I turn the camera towards them?

 

[MisterXDTV]

From their own blog

You understand what generative AI is right? It's making shit up.

Exactly

"To generate" literally means "To create something that didn't exist before"

 

[MMaRsu]

The generative AI is applying the lighting to the materials. Do you not understand that? That's the difference you are seeing. LOL ffs

Then why is her mouth totally different

 

[viveks86]

Doubt anyone will read that, but looks like Nvidia are just showing you how things could look. Devs have complete control.

That isn't "complete control". Not even remotely. The artist needs to define what they want visually. With actual concept art, raw game assets and their version of lights, cameras (like what lens to use, what type of camera, exposure etc) and post processing. Not by messing with masks and intensity sliders. You will never get tailor made/signature looks with that. You think any of the top studios would touch this with a ten foot pole and build their game from the ground up relying on it whenever the hardware capacity is there? Even indie devs that have a real art department would throw it out if they are presented with sliders and dropdowns to "control". They'll let Nvidia make it available as a feature if there is some partnership with them, but not get fundamental adoption like other aspects of DLSS does.

It's still a good start to start exploring this approach though. And the fact that they are able to pull this off on existing hardware is promising. But this isn't the game changer people are hailing it to be. It's just the start of another experimental journey in rendering. It will eventually become the norm once there is actual complete control and lighting consistency that is locked in throughout the entire game. But to do that, every dev needs direct access to massive amounts of compute, so that they can cook their own model using Nvidia's underlying tech, just like how LLMs are being used and built today in the private sector, outside of public facing chatbots. Doesn't seem like we are there yet.

 

[PeteBull]

ITS THE SAME FACE GUYS HURRDURR

Its ok if it isnt, dlss5 one looks like real life 9/10 hot chick(spoilers, they use make up, and quite a lot) while left one looks like gamey character/doll.
Ask 10k men, almost every1(95%+) will easily will chose dlss5 model/face, hell i think even total chads like young brad pit/leo or middleaged clooney wouldnt say no to dlss5 grace, thats how crazy goodlooking she is in that picture, assuming only jesus is perfect 10/10 she is easly 9/10 here

 

[nial]

Holy FUCKKKKK

Yeah, keep crying about Ai Slop.

Ai can give me that AI SLOPPY TOPPY

we have achieved fucking stolen AI art quality visiuals in real time.

fuck you

FTFY

 

[MMaRsu]

Holy FUCKKKKK

Yeah, keep crying about Ai Slop.

Ai can give me that AI SLOPPY TOPPY

we have achieved fucking concept art quality visiuals in real time.

fuck you

This is like the Marathon players coming into the CCU thread saying they are really enjoying themselves and we should shut up about the CCU

 

[Guilty_AI]

Yeah that's about the use i expected for AI in terms of image quality. Don't have anything against it but not sure if i'd use it, i hope the option for the "classic" DLSS to remain in future games.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

This is absolutely amazing technology. People who think this clashes with the artistic intent: they're not changing any assets here you know! It LOOKS like that because the lighting improvement is SO dramatic!

It's basically how those games would look if you applied CG level path tracing to them. You're talking a couple of generations of RT improvement in a single step. It's a gigantic step forward for rendering.

True, it just looks like A.I. deep fake slop in the demos shown, except in Assassins Creed screenshot.

This look so bad to me, "DLSS on" picture looks like someone put fake face on top of the screenshot in photoshop.

Exactly.

 

[Bojji]

This is like the Marathon players coming into the CCU thread saying they are really enjoying themselves and we should shut up about the CCU

Image on the right looks better. It doesn't matter if that was artistic intent or not.

Outside of some faces this tech can be impressive.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Then why is her mouth totally different

It isnt, lol. Get some glasses or a better monitor or something. Stop smoking your NFTS..

 

[poppabk]

You understand what generative AI is right? It's making shit up.

Not real like video games.

 

[Trilobit]

It's very impressive and something that will be bananas crazy if they get it to work flawlessly in realtime. But I fear that Nintendo games will be cursed if they ever use it. Especially Mario games. Hopefully there'll be a slider so that you can choose how much you want it to change the game.

 

[MMaRsu]

Image on the right looks better. It doesn't matter if that was artistic intent or not.

Outside of some faces this tech can be impressive.

None of you can gaslight me into believing the AI slop filter on the right looks better. And the rest of the internet agrees with me

 

[nial]

the usual suspects shilling this shit not because they're NVIDIA fanboys, but because they feel the need to make it about their silly culture wars

 

[Shane89]

Before 2019: Ok team, we have to optimize the game or it will run like shit!
Between 2019 and 2025: Ok team, AI will make the game runs good, I don't care about performance, but we still need to make good textures, mesh and 3D models.
Starting from 2026: Ok team, fuck optimization, fuck textures, fuck 3D model, just develop a cheap basic character model, something like a mannequin, AI will make it run and looks good.


Gaming is doomed

 

[Larxia]

So many games have interesting visuals and style because they were created with the limitations of the system in mind.

This is just a sad end to video games for me. Pure generic slop.

This, but also even without talking about tech limitations, I just really prefer looking at things created by someone, with an art direction and intent in mind, not something generated artificially....
That's also why, without talking about AI like this, I also never enjoyed procedural content, randomly generated maps etc etc...

I just want hand crafted things, with a real intent and artistic thought behind it. It seems like most people don't care about this though sadly.

 

[Bojji]

None of you can gaslight me into believing the AI slop filter on the right looks better. And the rest of the internet agrees with me

I think we need some poll.

 

[MMaRsu]

the usual suspects shilling this shit not because they're NVIDIA fanboys, but because they feel the need to make it about their silly culture wars

But this is gonna make all those mid women who are like a 7.5 or an 8 look like an absolute 10!!! MAJOR WIN

 

[Jam Dingo]

The generative AI is applying the lighting to the materials. Do you not understand that? That's the difference you are seeing. LOL ffs

What's event the point. He either can't or won't understand. Total waste of time.

 

[MMaRsu]

So because of better lightning her lips are thicker and juicier hmm yes I understand now

Its all making sense

 

[MisterXDTV]

Not real like video games.

Any art form is not real then

Are paintings real?

Are movies real?

Is music real?

Is theater real?

But guess what: they are what they are are because they are made by individual human beings that cannot be replicated in any way....

This is the opposite of that

 

[Ogbert]

Gawd. I'm getting old.

It just looks brighter to me.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Why does DLSS 5 change facial structures?

You must be running AMD because this looks undeniably amazing.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

This is like a really, really high effort SuperEagle filter. For all the good and bad that entails.

 

[poppabk]

not something generated artificially....

I hate to break it to you but games aren't real.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

This is the biggest next-gen leap we've seen since the jump to 3D, but "AI slop" spamming NPCs are gonna force Nvidia to shelve it.

The technology is amazing, but most of the demos aren't...

 

[CrustyBritches]

So because of better lightning her lips are thicker and juicier hmm yes I understand now

Its all making sense

The new lighting is so good that you could see that chick's eyeballs through her eyelids. Pretty cool, right?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

we have achieved fucking convept art quality visiuals in real time.

Second picture loses all the art for the sake of realism.

Thing is, realism is really, really boring. Even MSFS and GT7 are striving for more stylized and polished level of 'realism' for said reasons.

 

[Jam Dingo]

Then why is her mouth totally different

Try turning your light on at night in a dark room. It looks different, and I'll give you a clue why: it isn't because everything in the room suddenly transformed into different things.

 

[March Climber]

This is like the Marathon players coming into the CCU thread saying they are really enjoying themselves and we should shut up about the CCU

• Some are being extreme contrarians
• Some are actually liking what they see here (your marathon analogy)
• Some are only basing their opinions on whether or not another group likes it or hates it (the zero-stancers)

 

[TintoConCasera]

This is like a really, really high effort SuperEagle filter. For all the good and bad that entails.

We need a DLSS5 version of this meme

 

[ZehDon]

Is this going to be able to "remember" the last AI reconstruction? Or are characters going to look different every time I turn the camera towards them?

Yes. The AI reconstruction uses the underlying information to inform its interpretation. As long as the underlying information for a given object doesn't change, the reconstruction will be identical every time.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

artistic intent? Do you think the soulless faces in Starfield are artistic intent?

Stop being disingenuous...

 

[MMaRsu]

You must be running AMD because this looks undeniably amazing.

Undeniably most people disagree with that

 

[kevboard]

Is this going to be able to "remember" the last AI reconstruction? Or are characters going to look different every time I turn the camera towards them?

nope it won't.

it already uses a shit load of memory, if you wanted to make it consistent you'd literally have to keep previous generation in memory and even save it into storage.

this will literally look different every time you start the game, or just open the menu and close it again.

 

[simpatico]

Capcom's subpar early PS4 era character modeling is in dire need of an upgrade anyways. They can feed in Grace's real life model as better reference next time.

So be it, but that still doesn't mean I want Nvidia robots doing it. Are people really going to run this filter for their first Elden Ring 2 playthrough? What would it do to the very intentional faces of a Kojima game? I think it's cool as a novelty. I'd like it for replays of old games, but it's not a GPU seller for me. I just want what the developer modeled. But I downgraded my monitor resolution to avoid using current slop scalers. Seems like this stuff is still a ways out before it reaches a mid-range secondhand card that I can buy in a Del Taco parking lot, but I see more value in it than I do the currents slop scalers. Just for fun replays of old stuff. I'd never play a new release for the first time with color grading and facial features that the artists didn't intend to be there.

To me it's a cool novelty like when you unlock filters after beating a game. I'm not anything close to an AI hater. I want AI used to ease the busy work of game creation. I want indie devs to have their manpower multiplied by it. I've said a bunch of times the only next gen from here is photorealistic AI games, and I stand by this. This is just a weird middle ground.