Yea, it's as if 90% of haters base it on a screenshot of Grace who they're seemingly emotionally connected to (since pathetic irl etc). Anyhow, I feel most people think that with DLSS5 every game will by default be slopified without dev intent and option to turn it off, which is absurdly delusional. This tech will for a while at least be a fringe optionality, nothing changes for 99% of gamers at all (until Sony announces their own version lol).
The new ones don't look like real life either though, they're still all based on the original art.
I don't think so. It all looks bad, it's just all the faces look extra bad.
Whether or not faces look bad is up to subjecivity, it could also be updated in future revisions. All else I said still stands, shity or not it will not be mandatory or hurt any game by default (tho "hurting" is here still going to be subjective), which is most important thing.
Jensen's gonna be fine. In 5 years everyones gonna be using this, same way the 'fake frames' crowd disappeared.
And here is the kicker in this massive scam. They're intentionally causing the price increases (and scarcity) to sell you their overpriced shit.
Literally no one thought next-gen would be an ugly Instagram filter on hardware that costs thousands.
Speaking of grandfathers, I'm sure my long dead grandfather would never be able to tell the difference between yassification and actual next gen rendering. RIP
Absolutely not. It doesn't even look like the same person, so people would be upset.
Choose the same image side by side, not one of Grace cherry-picked to look bad.
Because you really think outside the "terminally online" movement, peoples will think the right looks better?
Cmon
"terminally online"
Because you really think outside the "terminally online" movement, peoples will think the right looks better?
Cmon
Looks like those fake game AI ads that pop up on websites to scam you.Choose the same image side by side, not one of Grace cherry-picked to look bad.
Yes, the image on the left looks better, the image on the right looks like a pile of shit instagram filter applied.
Forget Grace - we lose details of the wet ground, we lose reflections, it changes the entire feel of the scene.
That's exactly what it looks like. A tasteless, overlit image designed to draw in idiots who want to jerk off and get their money stolen.
Choose the same image side by side, not one of Grace cherry-picked to look bad.
Yes, the image on the left looks better, the image on the right looks like a pile of shit instagram filter applied.
Wait, you didn't tell me that your brother loved dlss5!Hard disagree. You can repeat "pile of shit instagram" a thousand time, you just look like someone getting his panties in a twist over the most fucking mundane thing. It's cringe as fuck to think an actual adult would type that shit out. And again, all this fuss over something that devs will inevitably control.
Forget Grace ever existing before the right screenshot. If PS6 had be unveiled with that NPC looking like that, everyone would have been floored. This is the graphical fidelity we've been waiting on while current gen NPC in-game faces look like fucking retards or dolls.
If yassified/instagram or some bullshit like that is your whole argument, the venn diagram with the purple forum is a near perfect circle then.
And real-life fact, my brother who is not terminally online, once he saw DLSS 5 Grace, he was floored and asked what GPU will achieve this. You would be a fool to think the mainstream would not prefer the right image if you asked in the street. Repeating "instagram filter" again and again won't change this simple fact.
The path traced Grace on the left is also completely different than the console experience. You understand this? "cherry picked", so which Grace is the OG vision? So much for artistic vision. You think the poor sob in japan who spent months in blender to make Grace also wanted potato mode Switch 2 with cardboard hair too?
I'm sure a lot of peoples are deeply worried about artistic vision when they go off to nexus mods and load up 500 mods with 64 GB RAM requirement texture packs for Skyrim or Fallout New Vegas uh, for artistic integrity for sure. Big tits Grace while we're at it.
More importantly, that very same dev will set how Grace with AI looks. If the above is not to his taste, he can adjust! wow
If you keep digging, you'll reach the Valley of Despair, then you can explain to me how rasterization works.That's the only thing you want to focus on?
Tell me with a straight face that if you polled mainstream peoples, they would not pick the AI Grace.
As compared to all the "bUt My arTiStiC" vision peoples who are having meltdowns all the way to earth's core for the past week? lol, cute redirection. Being hand in hand with purple forum, beautiful stuffs. What's next, she looks like porn actress while we're at it? While the OG Grace looks like an inflatable doll with dead eyes?
Seriously, Dunning Kruger effect 100%
The problem is that they went way too heavy handed with the effect and even the mainstream notices and hates the use of Ai. And simply brand things 'ai slop' when they see it. If they dialed it back a bit they wouldn't have this issue or at least this amount of pushback. The yaas filter on Grace does look awful. Same goes for the environment. It completely erased some of the atmosphere in some scenes because the ai can't see or recognize fog or some light sources and simply removes them entirely.That's the only thing you want to focus on?
Tell me with a straight face that if you polled mainstream peoples, they would not pick the AI Grace.
As compared to all the "bUt My arTiStiC" vision peoples who are having meltdowns all the way to earth's core for the past week? lol, cute redirection. Being hand in hand with purple forum, beautiful stuffs. What's next, she looks like porn actress while we're at it? While the OG Grace looks like an inflatable doll with dead eyes?
Seriously, Dunning Kruger effect 100%
Someone get Leather Jacket Man to hire this guy and his brother.
If someone else had shown the Grace face without any mention of AI it would be praised to hell and back. If Cerny had announced PS6 and showcased this the forum would have melted down. Unless you align with purple forum where chicks have to be ugly. But to gaslight anyone thinking there's an improvement with the AI model over a doll porcelain face that's not even up to par with Capcom's DMC 5 faces as "instagram filter" is just pure nonsense.
This gen we have these gems in-game when the "artists" stop giving a fuck outside the cutscenes :
Come back to me with a straight face to say that Grace AI is "ugly" again.
I think a name like "Ray Reconstruction 2.0" or something would have worked better.
True, but DF are also the ones who highlight the artifacts of the technology, not Nvidia. We've already seen evidence of significant occlusion artifacts, a la SSR.You don't go into the graphical fidelity thread much do you?
All path tracing demos that Nvidia showcased in marketing are a fraction of demonstrating how cool the effects are compared to even a 3rd party like DF.
We were discussing that not even a week ago when Nvidia announced all the new path tracing games.
I don't know why I'm even answering this.
when dlss5 does its thing well, lighting/materials/skin are faaaar better than what we have now
The Rebith faces look like that because the base PS5 version is messed up in the 60 fps mode; it looks perfectly fine in PC/PRO/ PS5 Quality mode.If someone else had shown the Grace face without any mention of AI it would be praised to hell and back. If Cerny had announced PS6 and showcased this the forum would have melted down. Unless you align with purple forum where chicks have to be ugly. But to gaslight anyone thinking there's an improvement with the AI model over a doll porcelain face that's not even up to par with Capcom's DMC 5 faces as "instagram filter" is just pure nonsense.
This gen we have these gems in-game when the "artists" stop giving a fuck outside the cutscenes :
Come back to me with a straight face to say that Grace AI is "ugly" again.
No man. It looks bad. It's a shit filter. You like it, great. But it's not good.
retarded to think future iterations wont hook into more engine data if needed, eg PBR pipeline
they can do the same with dlss5--you know, trillion $$ company and everything
Again with that application of subjective to objective. I think that lighting job is fine (albeit still alpha and subject to improvement), look at other examples like TES or Hogwarts or Zorah demo, you'd be totally dishonest to say that lighting there is outright bad. And again, no proof as of right now that DLLS5 will enslave every company to mandate it over their direction, it's the developer who will implement it, or we will be able to apply it like RTX mod etc. Totally irrational to be against that simple possibility.
Maybe. First impressions do matter though and this may set back progress if the vast majority is against it. I personally think its a wonderful piece of technology that once honed it will give a massive increase in fidelity. Ethics aside of Ai use verses human input and where the images/art were originally obtained.
