NeoGAF Fantasy Football Paypal League (Season 3)

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mr2xxx said:
Arian Foster (IND@HOU)
Jahvid Best (DET@TB)
Cedric Benson (CIN@CLE)

Miles Austin (DAL@NYJ)
Brandon Lloyd (OAK@DEN)
Mario Manningham (NYG@WAS)
Kenny Britt (TEN@JAC)

Its sucks to bench your best receiver but against Revis you have to do it.
2009 Revis vs. AJ- 45 yds, Colston 33 yds, Roddy 33 yds, Reggie 33 yds. He might give up one 100+ game a season but odds very small of that occuring. Especially with the Cowboys since they have Dez, Witten and Felix that can catch.

Don't be so sure. There's a decent chance the Jets could put Revis on Dez... and NOT Miles.
 
UberTag said:
Don't be so sure. There's a decent chance the Jets could put Revis on Dez... and NOT Miles.

I doubt it, Dez has potential to be a stud but miles has already proven it. Before Romo was hurt Miles was on his way to be a top 5 receiver in the league. He had 3 games over 140 yds and two duds. I hope revis does stick miles because he is on my 16 team league but I will probably bench him for fucking Mcgahee. Every weekly ranking I've seen has Miles ranked in the 20s or 30s so I'm not alone.
 
I passed on him for a WR or RB in three different drafts. Really glad I did that. Lowest I ever saw him go was the 5th. Plenty of people have taken him in the 3rd or 4th, which is going to bite them in the ass hard if he doesn't play this season. Even if he does come back in the second half and light it up, those guys are starting in a huge hole.

He went for $8 in my auction league. I thought about taking a flyer on him for $9. Glad I dodged that bullet too.
 
So quick question on the Flex.

Jahvid Best, Santana Moss, or Tim Hightower?

Gut says Best but the head is saying Moss
 
Crazymoogle said:
Gotta be drinking hard to start a Redskin week 1. Stick with Best

I know. But in my defense I think that Moss is more likely to do something with the Giants injured secondary.
 
Alex Anderson said:
So... who all drafted Peyton?

Ugh, don't remind me. I drafted both Mannings. Hopefully Eli can pick up the slack since it looks like Peyton will be out a lot longer that anticipated.
 
goober said:
So I got 11 points from Starks and 11 points from Graham. Is that decent?

That's great, actually. 10+ points from any tight end but Gates is basically mission accomplished. double digit points from Starks is great because it shows he is getting some of the running focus. Hopefully that continues to build.
 
Pretty much everyone that played had a decent fantasy night with the exception of either defense, Ryan Grant, Marques Colston and Mark Ingram. (I'm trusting that nobody was starting Driver or James Jones.)

Finley's numbers were a little subpar but that was more of a reflection of the way the game played out than anything else (plus the Saints have traditionally been strong against the TE).

I'm very happy with close to 12 points out of the flex spot out of Starks in the big money league. Especially given that he clearly outplayed Grant and has earned more touches going forward with an offense running on all cylinders. Soon his only nemesis will be that dreaded goal line vulture John Kuhn.

(I suspect I'm going to lose my Economy League matchup. Not a good week to face Rodgers. Let's see if Vick can answer.)
 
sf2fanatic said:
I remember posting my draft, selecting Starks and got some puzzled responses. I guess Starks can be a sleeper this year
Starks had not as many touches out of the backfield in preseason and Packers floated out that Grant was #1.
 
The Frankman said:
Starks had not as many touches out of the backfield in preseason and Packers floated out that Grant was #1.
Coachspeak is coachspeak. You've gotta learn to read between the lines.

Incidentally, here were my prophetic words of fantasy wisdom immediately prior to kickoff tonight:

UberTag said:
Players I'm starting in fantasy tonight: Jermichael Finley (2 leagues), Jimmy Graham, James Starks, Robert Meachem

Benched: Mark Ingram, Green Bay Defense

I Feel Sad For You If You Drafted: Marques Colston, Ryan Grant

Unheralded Player to Watch Out for: Darren Sproles... plus Donald Driver will eclipse the Packers all-time receiving record tonight

Sleeper to Keep in Mind for Future Weeks: Randall Cobb
I should have something similar prepped for Sunday night's game between the Jets and Cowboys.

Driver only tied the record and I didn't call Mr. Inconsistency Devery Henderson... but then Devery only delivers goose eggs when people put him in their lineups. So beware!
 
To everyone in the GAF economy league, sorry about the return yards situation. My fault for not crunching the numbers better, but Alex Anderson really should have accepted a re-balancing. If guys like Sproles and Hester score like a 1st round pick over the course of the year, I say we just return everyone's buy-in.

The goal was to make guys like Sproles viable flex options, allowing a little more roster creativity, not to make returners into RB1/WR1 options.

Hopefully this performance is an anomaly for returners.
 
Puddles said:
To everyone in the GAF economy league, sorry about the return yards situation. My fault for not crunching the numbers better, but Alex Anderson really should have accepted a re-balancing. If Sproles scores like a 1st round pick over the course of the year, I say we just return everyone's buy-in.


That mean Amendola gonna have top points in ur league?
 
sf2fanatic said:
That mean Amendola gonna have top points in ur league?

Hopefully not.

I set return yards at 20 yards per point. It really should have been 30. I tried to change it to 25 after I realized my mistake, but apparently Alex Anderson based his whole draft strategy around this mistake and protested. So now we have what might turn out to be a rather significant exploit.
 
Puddles said:
Hopefully this performance is an anomaly for returners.
People return long yardage TDs on a regular basis. What makes you think tonight is an anomaly?

Shame hope32 didn't start Randall Cobb and left that 22.5 points sitting on his bench.

In other news, I just dumped the Walking Concussion Austin Collie for Pittsburgh's Antonio Brown.

Did you know that not only is Brown an up-and-coming receiver but he also owns both punt and kickoff return duties for the Steelers this year? Starting next week, he will have a regular spot in my starting lineup and I expect he will earn more fantasy points than Mike Wallace over the duration of the season. Yay!
 
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
McCoy, Colt CLE QB
Schaub, Matt HOU QB
Helu, Roy WAS RB (R)
Hightower, Tim WAS RB
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB
Turner, Michael ATL RB
Woodhead, Danny NEP RB
Austin, Miles DAL WR
Edwards, Braylon SFO WR
Jennings, Greg GBP WR
Manningham, Mario NYG WR
Rice, Sidney SEA WR
Davis, Vernon SFO TE
Heap, Todd ARI TE
Shiancoe, Visanthe MIN TE
Folk, Nick NYJ PK
Peppers, Julius CHI DE
Matthews, Clay GBP LB
Ward, T.J. CLE S




I'm liking this team a lot, I've got a good chance to win my league again this year
 
Puddles said:
Hopefully not.

I set return yards at 20 yards per point. It really should have been 30. I tried to change it to 25 after I realized my mistake, but apparently Alex Anderson based his whole draft strategy around this mistake and protested. So now we have what might turn out to be a rather significant exploit.


So pick up Amedola, Mariani, Stefan Logan,Sproles= championship...lol

Had Amedola last year based on ur settings= 50pts per week....lol
 
UberTag said:
People return long yardage TDs on a regular basis. What makes you think tonight is an anomaly?

Shame hope32 didn't start Randall Cobb and left that 22.5 points sitting on his bench.

In other news, I just dumped the Walking Concussion Austin Collie for Pittsburgh's Antonio Brown.

Did you know that not only is Brown an up-and-coming receiver but he also owns both punt and kickoff return duties for the Steelers this year? Starting next week, he will have a regular spot in my starting lineup and I expect he will earn more fantasy points than Mike Wallace over the duration of the season. Yay!

Cobb also caught a touchdown pass. 9.5 of those points came from receiving.

We just had a game where both teams scored on kickoff returns. A typical kick returner scores 2-3 of those a year. They'll be feast or famine. It just so happens that last night's game was a whole lot of feast.

If return specialists score big points on Sunday and Monday, we can have a league vote about whether to nerf return yards.
 
Puddles said:
To everyone in the GAF economy league, sorry about the return yards situation. My fault for not crunching the numbers better, but Alex Anderson really should have accepted a re-balancing. If guys like Sproles and Hester score like a 1st round pick over the course of the year, I say we just return everyone's buy-in.

The goal was to make guys like Sproles viable flex options, allowing a little more roster creativity, not to make returners into RB1/WR1 options.

Hopefully this performance is an anomaly for returners.

A look at last year's totals indicates it's an anomaly.

Sproles scored 155 pts under the league's rules last year, putting him at a low end #2 or #3 RB position. Essentially exactly what you suggested--- a viable flex player. He had a good matchup last night and I got lucky he returned a punt for a TD. Do you know how many return TDs he had last year? Zero. 20 pts is not going to be an every week occurrence. He should score a shade under 10 pts per week.

Also, I drafted him as my #4 RB. He's likely to score less than Jamaal Charles and Cedric Benson who I took as my #1 and #2s. I also took Marshawn Lynch before him thinking he'll have a big role in his offense. It looked like Benson had a tough matchup this week and I think it may take a few weeks for Lynch to settle into his role so I went with Sproles as my #2 RB and I got lucky and he had a big game.

As for Devin Hester, he's pretty much the same as Sproles to his position. Scored as a low #2/high #3 last year. Basically, a viable flex option. As you pointed out with the Eric Weems example earlier in the thread, Yahoo's projections for return yardage is all over the place. Looking at how the players performed in '10 is a lot more realistic than some of their crazy projections for this year.

These guys aren't likely to finish the year in #1 territory or even near it. They didn't last year.

If you feel you made a mistake in setting the scoring, I'd appreciate it if you didn't try and deflect blame on other people.

My objection to the scoring change was simple: messing with scoring settings after a draft is about the worst thing someone can do as a commissioner. I would have felt the proposed change was a bad idea no matter who I drafted.
 
I apologize if you felt I was deflecting anything onto you.

I freaked out a little bit last night when both team's returners had huge games. But that isn't going to happen every game, as you said.
 
Firstplaceloser texted me last night asking if AP for Gates and Lloyd was a good deal. Shame on you, Frank lol

I would have vetoed it anyways :D

ps: Foster is out. I might actually win this week :o
 
The projection is some auto thing. If I believe that every week I never would have played Brandon Jacobs last year. :P

We'll see sunday morning. Still got options! Also, pleased to find that I have Meachem. Totally forgot but pretty nice now that Colston is out.
 
Yeah I screwed up with the waiver and didn't adjust it for this week's Thursday start. Devery Henderson was scooped up. I also got Cobb too but he won't be a game-changer like Henderson (with no Colston or Moore).
 
Cloudy said:
Yeah I screwed up with the waiver and didn't adjust it for this week's Thursday start. Devery Henderson was scooped up. I also got Cobb too but he won't be a game-changer like Henderson (with no Colston or Moore).
I don't mind missing out on those guys but it would have been nice to see some folks burn their waiver priority on them. :(
 
UberTag said:
I don't mind missing out on those guys but it would have been nice to see some folks burn their waiver priority on them. :(

Well the priority is based on weekly standings and I think that's part of the reason for the screw up. I personally wouldn't mind canceling all the transactions but it'd be unfair to Rinker since he made a saavy pick and Henderson is gonna be a top 10 WR for the forseeable future
 
Somehow I think some others would have made "savvy" pickups had we known players would unlock as free agents after the Thursday nighter.

Incidentally, the person who should have gotten first crack at Henderson once the news of Colston's injury came out was the person with Waiver Wire Slot 1... namely you.
 
They were never locked though. Only drafted players who were dropped are on the waiver wire right now. Anyone could have picked up Henderson before, during or after the game. I even picked up Cobb first and Rinker got Henderson afterwards lol

Again, I don't mind dropping Cobb but I'm not gonna penalize Rinker for doing something anyone else could have done. I apologize for the mix up though. This is my first time doing waivers by standings and I realized after the fact that the Sunday - Tuesday waivers leave a loophole for week 1

edit: Yeah I saw that but I had the first crack at him anyways but took Cobb cos I couldn't imagine that he was a FA lol. BTW I'm pretty sure Rinker took him before the injury was known just based on stats from the game.

Also, I think it just used draft position as filler. Week 1 waiver priority will be based on record and pts scored. Maybe draft position is factored in but I'm not sure...
 
Cloudy said:
Yeah I screwed up with the waiver and didn't adjust it for this week's Thursday start. Devery Henderson was scooped up. I also got Cobb too but he won't be a game-changer like Henderson (with no Colston or Moore).

I thought if a team played Thursday the players would be locked out before the game and you wouldn't be able to get them till Tuesday. Just fix it so it doesn't happen again.
 
Thats they way Yahoo system works. That first week is open. I got him in some of my other leagues this one I didn't.

Just a very freak thing this year.
 
mr2xxx said:
I thought if a team played Thursday the players would be locked out before the game and you wouldn't be able to get them till Tuesday. Just fix it so it doesn't happen again.

Yeah, I just did
 
acksman said:
Thats they way Yahoo system works. That first week is open. I got him in some of my other leagues this one I didn't.

Just a very freak thing this year.

Nah, the Commish has to select First game of the week - Tuesday (instead of the regular Sunday - Tuesday) as the Waiver period. I didn't think to do that and since we're doing waivers by standings, waiver position wasn't affected. It was all my fault so we can't blame Rinker for being opportunistic :p
 
On second thoughts, to keep this fair for everyone, I'm gonna leave it open and start the new waiver system next week. Some folks might have injuries and want to pick up players today...
 
Cloudy said:
Firstplaceloser texted me last night asking if AP for Gates and Lloyd was a good deal. Shame on you, Frank lol

I would have vetoed it anyways :D

ps: Foster is out. I might actually win this week :o
LOL hold on a second... He benched AP for some reason, so logically I thought he didn't like him and was looking for a trade. I always offer a shitton of trades, and most I expect a counteroffer/explanation, aka I didn't expect him to accept (but I would've loved it if he did). What am I supposed to think?

BTW not to belabor the point, but you're saying if I offered what you believe is a "fair deal" you wouldn't veto it? That's akin to borderline collusion outlined in Yahoo's Rulebook. Also the whole purpose of vetoing is to prevent collusion, not protect people from making "one-sided deals". It may sound cruel, but I would imagine that's the point of a money league.

Let me pose to you a theoretical: Remember when I pressed the wrong button and wanted to take Ryan Grant last year? Would you have ordered everyone not to take Grant so I could pick him next round "to protect me"? Or how about someone accidentally drops their best player, would you tell everyone not to pick him so I could reacquire him? I'm curious.
 
Dude I was kidding. Also, I don't think that's a fair deal at all. Gates is nice but TE is a deep position this year and Lloyd probably won't come close to last years stats. RB is a premium position and even more so in a 16 team league. The best RB is invaluable in our league

Let me pose to you a theoretical: Remember when I pressed the wrong button and wanted to take Ryan Grant last year? Would you have ordered everyone not to take Grant so I could pick him next round "to protect me"?

If you were adamant about it, yes. It'd have been easier with the commish draft controls they added this year (draft freezing, pick undoing, roster editing etc.) I don't remember seeing that last year

Or how about someone accidentally drops their best player, would you tell everyone not to pick him so I could reacquire him? I'm curious.

Yes and I'm pretty sure I did that twice last year

ps: FPL is not a "he"
 
Cloudy said:
Dude I was kidding. Also, I don't think that's a fair deal at all. Gates is nice but TE is a deep position this year and Lloyd probably won't come close to last years stats. RB is a premium position and even more so in a 16 team league. The best RB is invaluable in our league
Oh yeah, I totally expected a counter or a note saying "ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?". I just wanted to know why arguably the best Fantasy player was sitting.
If you were adamant about it, yes. It'd have been easier with the commish draft controls they added this year (draft freezing, pick undoing, roster editing etc.) I don't remember seeing that last year
Really... that's interesting. Like I said, generally it's not the commish's job to protect people from making bad moves, only to root out collusion. To make a "mistake" at times can be hard to prove. Interesting to know though.
Yes and I'm pretty sure I did that twice last year

ps: FPL is not a "he"
Wait you did? I have no recollection of that at all. I would---

*reads that FPL is not a he*

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Seriously, I haven't updated my list of who is who here. I really need all people giving me their GAF handles, it make things so much easier when the trade deadline nears.
 
If someone accidentally drops their best player, hell yeah the commish should correct that error. The season shouldn't be won or lost on account of some sloppy mouse work.
 
Puddles said:
If someone accidentally drops their best player, hell yeah the commish should correct that error. The season shouldn't be won or lost on account of some sloppy mouse work.
But how can you prove it was "human error"? That's the question. Again, I have a player who is injured and may be out for the year, so I drop him. However an hour later the report is proven false and the player will be back in 3-4 weeks. What's to stop the person from claiming human error then? Again, proof is the key.

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