EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I will buy none. Maybe NG3, but given how late it will be I'll probably just get it for the PS3 instead.
Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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I will buy none. Maybe NG3, but given how late it will be I'll probably just get it for the PS3 instead.
bgassassin
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It's a plausible notion. It's what I was referring when I said the GPU will determine if it's a "half-step" or "three-quarters" step.
IceDoesntHelp
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I'll be getting Batman, Aliens, Metro and maybe Ninja Gaiden (the "pros" of only owning a Wii and not having a good enough computer to run Metro or Batman)
I would agree, except playing FPS's on my 360, when the remote is just about dead and turns off rumble to conserve power, I feel completely taken out of the action when I pull the trigger and feel no feedback. Something feels innately "wrong".
I'll be severely disappointed if there is no rumble.
The nunchuck should have had rumble.
The 3DS should have had rumble.
I need rumble.
herzogzwei1989
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I'll stand in line all day at Walmart if I have to, to get a Wii U, just like I did in Nov 2006 when I got my Wii.
herzogzwei1989
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I would advise against buying a Wii at this point. You get no benefit at all. Wii U will be backwards compatible, and knowing Nintendos history the BC is usually perfect. You could build up a nice legacy library now, with sales and buying used. The Wii has quite a few games that I personally would consider to be Nintendos best of the best. So you're still going to be able playing those on Wii U.
In the end, you'll buy a Nintendo console for its exclusives, and after the Wii I am pretty confident that Nintendo will again deliver amazing experiences on Wii U. Maybe this time with decent online features as well.
If all goes wrong you could still sell the console no?
IceDoesntHelp
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lol wut?
Smiles and Cries
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a launch like that is great for Nintendo fans but yeah I cannot imagine HD console gamers waiting on late 3rd Party games on Wii U
I imagine mods are going to be busy setting up "You can comepare PS3/WiiU games only in this |OT|" threads
You got my hopes up for BF3 then read the other comments
I'd most likely get darksiders, arkham city, and whatever nintendo titles come out at launch.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
That's my problem, though simply because I've always been a multiplatform gamer. All of those games, bar the console exclusives, I will get on PC, and unless there's some obvious advantage on the Wii U for the console exclusives I'll just get them on my platform of choice when they launch rather than wait months for the Wii U to arrive.
But this is a problem I (and others) have been expressing for quite awhile now. It's a bit of a dead horse. I hope E3 2012 sees more than a laundry list of current gen ports and instead some big IPs from Nintendo (new or otherwise) and, ideally, third party goodies. A bunch of games available elsewhere and earlier won't do them much good unfortunately, except for the Nintendo only people.
I'd have to be totally insane to put any money on GCN. I just don't see it happening.
That said, if AMD were to come out at the December 5th 7000 series announcement and say that the "GCN" codename is really a GameCube reference, that Nintendo's engineers helped develop it, and that Wii U will have it, I will shit my pants several times.
By the way, I call dibs on the thread if that actually does happen so I can make the troll title.
That said, if AMD were to come out at the December 5th 7000 series announcement and say that the "GCN" codename is really a GameCube reference, that Nintendo's engineers helped develop it, and that Wii U will have it, I will shit my pants several times.
By the way, I call dibs on the thread if that actually does happen so I can make the troll title.
Gianni Merryman
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Fixed.
I feel where he is coming from with the rumble on the nunchuck, if it could give some feedback based upon movement I would be happy
Leon S. Kennedy
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lordfroakie
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Well, NG3 is a wiiu launch/launch window title. Shouldn't be too long...
Gianni Merryman
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I would put in my wanted list Darksiders 2 as well, and perhaps also Freaks from outer space and Ghost recon, provided by then I will have enough money to afford to purchase a WiiU in the first place.
By the way Battlefields 3 has not been confirmed yet far as far as I know.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
NG3 is aiming for a release early next year, and the Wii U wont be out until post E3, probably close to the end of the year. That's quite awhile.
what kind of support do you need from 3rd parties to make your platform financially viable? Can you engineer your system to just say 'forget it, we'll just do great first party games'?
Or are first party games nearly always just market makers for the platform and your main income is 3rd party licensing fees? With the success of some of Nintendos games (Mario kart Wii 28m units!), surely they can just not worry about other developers?
Or are first party games nearly always just market makers for the platform and your main income is 3rd party licensing fees? With the success of some of Nintendos games (Mario kart Wii 28m units!), surely they can just not worry about other developers?
lordfroakie
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True. I'm interested about the gameplay mechanics. Curious on how wiiu version will turn out.
My most wanted wiiu games:
Killer freaks
DQX
Aliens
Forsaken82
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The N64 didn't kill Nintendo, so I would say this was entirely possible back in the day, but may not be a viable business option in todays industry.
I don't think it'd be at all possible for them to be the only backers of a modern day console as we know it. In this day and age, you'd need some form of 3rd party support.
However, if nintendo could put out a "Wii HD" that was roughly 360 level or slightly below, priced at $179.99, was netflix and hulu capable out of the box, could play blu-ray movies, had access to the VC, came with a easy to use flash-enabled browser and facebook/twitter channels, with maybe 8gb internal storage with usb HDD or SDHC options, and had full backwards compatibility with the Wii while still either breaking even or making a small teeny tiny profit, I could see such a product being sustainable with nintendo's 1st party lineup. They'd have to have a killer launch title though and good word of mouth.
Such a console would never see success though with a $200+ price point, and nintendo would make far, FAR less money than they would otherwise imo.
Nintendo exists since the medieval period. The online infrastructure of the Wii should provide proof enough.
Ba-dum-cha!
Definitely interested in this one after the E3 showing. I love the idea of a "games master" in a game. Something like that might get my wife into playing. She doesn't have to go all FPS and shit which she has no interested in but she might enjoy smashing me with some freaks.
Yea but the Yakuza was formed way earlier.
Saint Gregory
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I certainly hope not but at the same time it's impossible that AMD doesn't know that GCN is the Gamecube's offical tag. It's probably someone's idea of an inside joke.
bgassassin
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LOL. You'd probably have to be watching the announcement live to make that thread first. And even then it wouldn't be guaranteed. But the naming convention is weird though and probably nothing more than a strange coincidence. But I'd LOL pretty hard if that were true.
Speculation. It's serious business.
I think it has more to do with Wii/GameCube disks using CAV to read its disk and reduce loading (since the disk would not need to slow down).
Although now that WiiU is basically using a form of BluRay without the consortium I wonder if they will apply CAV to this as well.
I also listened to that podcast, and hated how they insinuated Nintendo could always go 3rd party like Sega and that the 3DS has not picked up in sales when it clearly has. Either their not up to date. They don't even know what "standard DVD resolution" is (they claim it's 720i?). The idiots.
Nuclear Muffin
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Other way around actually. IIRC, it started off as Kirby's Tilt N' Tumble 2 and later on, Kirby was removed and the name was changed to Rollorama (until the game was cancelled)
Edit: Beaten, massively!
Many do, but not all of them. Some are CLV for various reasons.
I suspect the reason why the PS3 drive is CLV is due to difficult laser supply near launch. For higher transfer speeds, you need higher laser output. The 2xCLV drive they used was already expensive enough. If they built a CAV drive with that same-spec laser, they would have gotten the same 2x speed at the outer edge, but something like 0.8x on the innermost areas. Which obviously would have been inacceptable even for movie playback, and significantly slower for gaming purposes.
Mr.Squirrel
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I really hope there's a Wii U Pokemon. I very rarely buy handhelds, but I fucking LOVE pokemon games. A Wii U Pokemon, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, and F-Zero is pretty much all I'd ever need out of next-gen Nintendo. Everything else would be gravy on top.
MadOdorMachine
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You bet your ass there will be a Pokemon Stadium variant...
Iwata said around E3 that they were looking at a price absolutely no less than the Wii's launch price. It seemed to stress the possibility for a higher price point.
But since the 3DS reacted so negatively to a higher price point, it wouldn't be surprising if things have changed
I imagine Nintendo's (and mine) alternate strategy is to work their arses off in order to have a stellar launch/window and first year. I think if the 3DS had have had a slew of great games, solid eshop with original content at launch etc, maybe it could have sustained a higher price - maybe. To be honest I hope they don't go too cheap if that enables them to pack more in the system.
AceBandage
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Yeah a great launch lineup can help with the price some.
Though they'll still need to price it competitively. Which means not much (if at all) over $300.
Though they'll still need to price it competitively. Which means not much (if at all) over $300.
Why though?
McHuj
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Holy shit. you mean that once a company releases a new console the old one doesn't cease to exist? Two generations of consoles can exist at once? There's two tiers of consumers? Amazing. [/sarcasm]
But seriously, I'm glad that Nintendo is saying this publicly. It seems a lot of people struggle grasping that concept with regards to the other platform holders releasing their new systems.
radioheadrule83
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[Nintex];33098822 said:
I have bought every Nintendo console at one point or another and quite a few on day 1, but I would consider waiting if they dared price it higher than £299 with a game. I never want to have a PS3-purchasing-experience ever again. Wii was £180 at launch, I'm optimistic they'll hit the £200-£250 range. That with a nice launch title would be a good price.
specialguy
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Wii sales aren't just, GREAT with no Wii U on the market. It still has some punch in Nov and Dec in the west, but that's about it.
you have to apply weird Euro-GBP conversions these days though. No doubt they'll go for a nice round number in euros, then give us a few months worry about whether retailers will take the hit on margin to convert to a handy GBP figure. Which they won't.
so if its 249 euro it'll be like £229, if 299 euro then £269 maybe, they won't squeeze down to £249
radioheadrule83
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Who knows though - the Euro might be a completely different animal next year (or be getting dropped by certain countries or something)! Interesting times ahead
Given the talk of re-reveals at E3 - is the general thinking now that the launch date will have slipped from Summer to Winter?
DeaconKnowledge
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